I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

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I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

We're not the ones smugly and self-righteously sitting in judgement on someone else's choices....

@BadNomad i appreciate your reply.

in my opinion organ donation is a gift and not a right. Any reason to withdraw is in my opinion a valid one.

what I don’t think is reasonable is a pile on from either side with name calling and slanging matches. I’m sure everyone here is capable of much better than that.

I did wonder when someone would pop up attempting to guilt trip me on a personal decision.

It is a personal decision and frankly you do not have any right to try and affect that, respect it or get lost frankly.

I can't have children either... so thank you very much for that comment.

Well I do agree that is the point, isn't it. That trust is probably irretrievably broken now. For me, they'd have to start putting women first again, and not treating us as if we are subhuman dirt. Return to sex-based language. That means the removal of terms like 'chest feeders' and 'uterus havers' and 'birthing person'. It means catering to 50% of the population: women. Not to 1%. They'd have to restore womens right to single sex care. Single sex wards. There is a lot they'd have to do to reverse the damage, do a complete 180. Women have been treated like we are objects, nothing but absolute SHIT. We've been degraded, humiliated, and treated as subhuman. In language on forms, in deeds and actions. A complete 180 on all of these things would be needed. Women are truly angry. And the medical establishment need to sit up, take notice, and act. NOW.

Why do you think an uneducated choice deserves to be free from judgement?

I absolutely do judge people who elect not to donate organs after they’ve died. I genuinely can’t get my head around it. They are of no use to you whatsoever. Why would you not want to help someone have the opportunity to live?

im not sure exactly what the point of your reply was anyway - comparing donating money whilst alive to organs once you’re dead is just stupid, and what I was really asking is how many of you could happily sit and chat to the parents of those children in the article I posted and be confident that not donating organs is the right choice?

Why do you think an EDUCATED CHOICE is 'uneducated'? Perhaps your choice is the uneducated one?

Ever consider that? That to us, you are the uneducated ones?

Why are some people so concerned with what others choose to do with their bodies?

Luckily for me I'm very well versed from recent history in guilt tripping, manipulation and general ahole behaviour so when I see it on here I'm not having any of it.

Thank you for your support though I appreciate it.

Everyone makes choices that could be seen as selfish to someone else. That's the point. Someone out there could starve/die from malnutrition, while someone has money in the bank.

It's all life, isn't it.

@Tacocatgoatcheesepizza i would talk to them, sympathise with them, maybe even cry with them. But I still would be confident in my choice not to donate my organs. The two are not exclusive.

sometimes in life people are dealt really shit hands. That’s life. I’m not here to play god.

Exactly. This attitude really riles me you know because who is anyone else to judge another persons decision on what to do with THEIR bodies? Even after death?

You could say it's selfish for people to pump out kids and seek benefits, you could say it's selfish not to buy the eco friendly cleaner at the supermarket, it's selfish to eat meat because of the animals, it's selfish to not eat meat because of farming... I mean it all basically comes around to personal choice at the end of the day so can someone please explain to me why there are these people who feel it their personal right to outright judge others??

To those people: Get lost you virtue signalling turds.

Hardly, a choice based on fantasy scare mongering rather than facts is pretty much the definition of uneducated.

Considering our choice is not based on fantasy or scare mongering, but on facts, evidence, and history, it's clearly a very educated choice. But keep thinking everything is "not happening" in your delusional uneducated bubble of denial.

Well said!

Great answer.

Firstly I’m very sorry about your fertility situation that is really rough. But I am on mumsnet so was going with the likelihood.

but secondly, it is a very valid question to all those that state they wouldn’t donate their organs, and their reasons would dictate whether or not I respect that. Medical reasons, religious reasons, and the lady that had been forced into prostitution since a young age and wanted to keep what had been so badly used over the years, I get that. But to just say oh I couldn’t bear to be cut up (when you can’t feel a thing or have any awareness of it) but would appreciatively grab a kidney if the need arose is the epitome of hypocrisy. I suspect most on here would take but not give, whether it be for themselves or their child and that’s why I’ve had hardly any response to the question I posed “would you still take an organ if you’d withdrawn from the register” it’s a valid question and whether it makes you question your ethics is your problem

Bit what part of that is the fault of the organ donation register? Or the HTA? Or the people waiting for life saving transplants?

None of that explains why you trust them to respect your "absolutely not" but not your "Only take what I've said you're allowed to" decision when it comes to donation.

If you trust them to respect "Do not take my organs" then by the same logic you must trust them to respect "Only take XYZ specified organs" and if you don't trust them to respect the latter then you also shouldn't trust them to respect the former ...

How is being passionate about organ donation and saving others lives with organs I no longer require being heartless??! Go on, I’m curious

What part of 'my body, my choice' do people not understand?

It's the fault of the health care system as a whole for dehumanising and degrading women. Womens rights have gone backwards. The health care system is infested with misogyny and a deep, intense hatred of women. It's the fault of the health care system from the top down.

And as I said, when I said that's the point that the trust is irretrievably broken, that means I don't think I would trust them again anyway. Unless as I said, they reversed all the damage done to women. Then I would possibly. As I explained in that post.

Surely you can understand I am saying the responses to people who choose to opt out; the name-calling, the judgement, and the weaponising children to emotionally manipulate people is what is heartless.

I don't trust them not to be weaselly.

"We'll respect the choices you recorded" (then under their breath) "but you didn't say specifically that we couldn't use [organ] so we're free to take it."

I have no doubt at all that you judge people for things too. Everyone does.

All the things you list are choices we make for living. Like everyone else I will make some selfish choices there. The difference to me for organ donation is that you’re dead. You are going to be cremated or buried in the ground. There is no life to live. You feel nothing. Why let your now useless organs die with you instead of giving someone else that chance to live? It’s like putting in your will that you want your house and money to be burnt after your death.