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I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

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Purpledogcollar · 28/08/2023 22:04

I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

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Cymbal · 29/08/2023 13:29

Mydietstartstomorrow · 29/08/2023 13:26

I’d still like to know from the op, and other posters saying that they’ve withdrawn, whether you’d take a life saving organ yourselves??

As I said above, I opted out when the law changed. My body is not the property of others.

I wouldn't be hypocritical and take an organ from someone else.

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:29

Mydietstartstomorrow · 29/08/2023 13:26

I’d still like to know from the op, and other posters saying that they’ve withdrawn, whether you’d take a life saving organ yourselves??

I won't take an organ myself, no. This is a hill I am prepared to die on. I'm being honest.

captainjacksparrow · 29/08/2023 13:29

Mydietstartstomorrow · 29/08/2023 13:26

I’d still like to know from the op, and other posters saying that they’ve withdrawn, whether you’d take a life saving organ yourselves??

I did set out in my first post, No I would not accept an organ nor would my DP.

I may accept blood but then I have donated blood in the past. It would entirely depend on why I needed it at the time I suppose and what my health needs were

AllOfThemWitches · 29/08/2023 13:29

'Blah blah smash the patriarchy blah,' I bet half of you don't even challenge misogyny when you hear it in real life. That'll show em though, right?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 29/08/2023 13:29

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:28

You are blaming us women who took this choice. That's the point. Instead of those who thought this up, and hence forced us into this choice.

You can't be "forced" into a "choice". The statement is entirely self-contradictory.

You took the choice, because you had the freedom to choose.

Own it.

BadNomad · 29/08/2023 13:29

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:26

Yet according to the surgeons themelves, it will be. Or are you too, calling them liars?

Show me where they have said women will not have the option to say no to their wombs being donated.

flaffydaffy · 29/08/2023 13:30

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:26

Yet according to the surgeons themelves, it will be. Or are you too, calling them liars?

"the surgeons" didn't say anything about the organ donor register nor have any authority to change the organ donation system.

BillaBongGirl · 29/08/2023 13:31

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:25

No, the point is about womens rights. Womens rights.

And I am not allowing women to die. The quack surgeons and trans activists who pushed this are. Stop blaming women who were forced into this choice, not of this is our fault or our own doing. I am bloody sick to death of women being blamed for something through no fault of our own.

But you haven’t been forced to opt out? That’s our point. You are reacting on the fear of what might be, based on a few sci fi boasts by activists drawn from a survey of what is a wish list.

Not what is or even what has been announced as pending or likely. There is no bill introduced to Parliament even suggesting you might lose your right to deny consent for your uterus. There is nothing by the BMA or legal sector even hinting that we’d lose our legal rights over our own organs.

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:31

AllOfThemWitches · 29/08/2023 13:29

'Blah blah smash the patriarchy blah,' I bet half of you don't even challenge misogyny when you hear it in real life. That'll show em though, right?

I know you want to believe that because it suits your agenda, but I have challenged it, and do. But I'm kinda bolshy.

Annaishere · 29/08/2023 13:32

I withdrew my consent to donate any of my organs after signing up to it. I’m scared that it will unsettle my soul just after I’ve died and could be traumatic and affect what happens to me in the afterlife. I don’t know if I need to do it again now they made it automatic for everyone until you opt out

BadNomad · 29/08/2023 13:32

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:28

You are blaming us women who took this choice. That's the point. Instead of those who thought this up, and hence forced us into this choice.

Nope. I have no idea what sex people are who have taken themselves off the register. You know this isn't the first womb transplant right? Where was your outrage before? Oh right, you weren't transphobic back then.

AllOfThemWitches · 29/08/2023 13:33

I know you want to believe that because it suits your agenda, but I have challenged it, and do. But I'm kinda bolshy.

Sure you are

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:35

As it's just going around in circles, it comes down to this:

a fundamental lack of trust in health services and in government. It's really that basically. Everything we were told "wouldn't happen", has happened. And then some. I think by now, the trust is irretrievably broken. Add in the erosion of womens rights, the degrading terms like chest feeder, birthing person etc, the trust is irretrievably broken. And, the surgeons and TRAs pushing for this. In my sincerely held beliefs, I cannot take that risk. I just cannot take that risk. And other women (many) have come to the same view.

That's all there is to it.

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:35

AllOfThemWitches · 29/08/2023 13:33

I know you want to believe that because it suits your agenda, but I have challenged it, and do. But I'm kinda bolshy.

Sure you are

Read my posts on this thread. I think they speak for themselves.

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 29/08/2023 13:35

I note this conversation has really moved on from the original post however I will make my comment anyway.... I too opted out of organ donation the day we all automatically opted in. I too don't wish men to have my organs although for different reasons than are being discussed. I have worked as a prostitute since I was in my mid teens and I am tired of my body being taken and used for the benefit of others. When I am dead I want my body to finally be my own and not to be interfered with, especially by men. I don't know if I would accept another's organ or not, I suspect not.

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captainjacksparrow · 29/08/2023 13:36

@BadNomad i can’t speak for other posters but I have been against organ donation since I was a teenager. I never opted in when that was the practice, or carried an organ donor card, and then when the law changed I opted out.

my choice is not about womb transplants specifically nor about being transphobic however I do have concerns about where this particular road may end up

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:38

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 29/08/2023 13:35

I note this conversation has really moved on from the original post however I will make my comment anyway.... I too opted out of organ donation the day we all automatically opted in. I too don't wish men to have my organs although for different reasons than are being discussed. I have worked as a prostitute since I was in my mid teens and I am tired of my body being taken and used for the benefit of others. When I am dead I want my body to finally be my own and not to be interfered with, especially by men. I don't know if I would accept another's organ or not, I suspect not.

Flowers Your reasons are equally valid and you have nothing to apologise for.

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 29/08/2023 13:41

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:16

So you have zero bank balance? No savings? Not even a penny then.

You are honestly trying to compare donating all your spare money whilst you’re actually alive and might need it to donating organs after you’ve died and most definitely won’t be needing them in any way?

ok…..

I’d love to hear you justifying your reasoning to these parents and children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-62255307

Cillian Myles and partner Lesha Comer from Galway, Ireland with their one year old son Luke

Families of children in need of heart transplants appeal for organs

The families of the youngsters aged 10 months to eight years old want more to sign up as donors.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-62255307

Chersfrozenface · 29/08/2023 13:43

Sueveneers · 29/08/2023 13:35

As it's just going around in circles, it comes down to this:

a fundamental lack of trust in health services and in government. It's really that basically. Everything we were told "wouldn't happen", has happened. And then some. I think by now, the trust is irretrievably broken. Add in the erosion of womens rights, the degrading terms like chest feeder, birthing person etc, the trust is irretrievably broken. And, the surgeons and TRAs pushing for this. In my sincerely held beliefs, I cannot take that risk. I just cannot take that risk. And other women (many) have come to the same view.

That's all there is to it.

This

For me, the trust and confidence are gone.

BadNomad · 29/08/2023 13:45

captainjacksparrow · 29/08/2023 13:36

@BadNomad i can’t speak for other posters but I have been against organ donation since I was a teenager. I never opted in when that was the practice, or carried an organ donor card, and then when the law changed I opted out.

my choice is not about womb transplants specifically nor about being transphobic however I do have concerns about where this particular road may end up

You're not the people criticism is being directed at. You haven't suddenly withdrawn from the register because you don't want transwomen getting your uterus (even though no one has asked for it, nor is it happening).

If that time comes, and if there isn't an option for female-to-female-only uterus transplants, I will opt out of that organ. The rest of my organs will still be available. See how I can still make a "stand" without other people dying?

roses321 · 29/08/2023 13:46

No you're not unreasonable.
I am not a donor for no other reason than I don't want to die and have bits of me removed, if that's selfish then sorry about that but it's how I feel.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 13:48

CherryMaDeara · 29/08/2023 10:30

Do you also complain when your council don't tell you when your bin day is or do you go and find out the info yourself?

A false equivalence. Bin day is something most people are more likely to consider when the rubbish piles up. It may not however cross people's minds that they had been opted in to the donor register and would need to opt out. I would hazard a guess far more people know about bin day and go and find that out when they need to.

melj1213 · 29/08/2023 13:58

Chersfrozenface · 29/08/2023 13:43

This

For me, the trust and confidence are gone.

And yet you trust that they will respect your decision to opt out ...

Why do you have faith they will trust your decision to say "No you can't have anything" when you don't trust them to honour your decision to say "You can have XYZ specific organs only"?

This is what I have issue with - people are withdrawing consent because they don't believe that the doctors will respect the legal limits of organ donation that you have agreed to but I have not seen anyone explain why they think that those same doctors will respect the legal decision to donate nothing if they have no qualms about breaking the law when you opt in.

Mydietstartstomorrow · 29/08/2023 13:58

roses321 · 29/08/2023 13:46

No you're not unreasonable.
I am not a donor for no other reason than I don't want to die and have bits of me removed, if that's selfish then sorry about that but it's how I feel.

So would you feel that way if your child woke up tomorrow struggling to breath, was diagnosed with an incurable heart condition and would die without a transplant?

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