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I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

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Purpledogcollar · 28/08/2023 22:04

I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

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Spywoman · 29/08/2023 06:44

Flickersy · 28/08/2023 22:08

You're being ridiculous. Reproductive organ donation is far from being standard or commonplace at this point in medical history, and you can choose what organs you wish to donate in any event.

THIS.

Goslowglowworm · 29/08/2023 06:45

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CherryMaDeara · 29/08/2023 06:47

It looks like you can nominate someone to make the decision for you. I think this is a good option for some people who are nervous about hospitals having access to your body. I must admit that hospital janitor David Fuller abusing women’s dead bodies in hospital morgues has affected how much I trust hospitals. I’d be happy for my organs to be taken as long as my family were there to advocate for me.

From the NHS site:

You can nominate someone to make a decision on your behalf
You may not want to make an organ donation decision yourself. You may have specific instructions, or have concerns about your family not supporting your decision.
If you live in England, Wales or Northern Ireland, you can nominate up to two representatives to make the final decision about organ donation on your behalf.
If you die in circumstances where donation is possible, your appointed representative(s) will be asked if your organs should be donated.
Nominate a representative online
Alternatively, call our contact centre on 123 23 23 0300 123 23 23 and one of our team will arrange to send the form by post.

Nominate a representative

If you don't want to make an organ donation decision yourself, or if you have specific instructions, you can appoint someone to make that decision for you.

https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/register-your-decision/nominate-a-representative/

Everydayimhuffling · 29/08/2023 06:47

You can decide which organs get donated. I've always been clear with my family about what I want donated and not. Just tell your family. I've been clear about no gametes from the beginning.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 06:49

Not wanting to participate in things like egg donation / uterine transplants does not make someone transphobic.

Same old lazy / limited thought sound bites though I see.

moomoosaka · 29/08/2023 06:53

If you register to say sure you can have my corneas but not anything else on this list they aren't going to go - I know let's take her womb

Mydietstartstomorrow · 29/08/2023 06:59

Purpledogcollar · 28/08/2023 22:17

It doesn’t give me an option for reproductive organs but what if I forget that I have registered in a few years time. Can I trust that they will acknowledge this.

I would like to ask the Op directly - would you take an organ if you needed one?

thedancingbear · 29/08/2023 07:03

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 06:49

Not wanting to participate in things like egg donation / uterine transplants does not make someone transphobic.

Same old lazy / limited thought sound bites though I see.

No it doesn't. But we are a long way from the point where this ever happens. Trans women certainly can't go to their local GP or hospital and get a uterus at this point. So as an act of protest, it's crass, paranoid, and could cost women lives.

Seashellies · 29/08/2023 07:06

Currently it isn't an organ they can take upon death. Organ donation is highly regulated and there are lots of rules around it (for good reason). To have this as an organ that can be readily donated unless the person manually opts our of it is a long long way off, the only donor so far has been someone living and able to give informed consent and have control over who it went to. Its sad people are opting out because they're making assumptions and have no clue.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:09

We're rapidly charging towards that point. And there has already been uterine transplants for women. I don't want any of my tissue / body parts to form any part of that experimentation / ultimate outcome.

My body, my choice. You / others don't get to decide that with the crass petty slurs and name calling.

If you want to donate, then you go ahead and make the choice for yourself, and yourself alone.

PinkCheetah · 29/08/2023 07:10

Why object? You will be dead anyway and giving a poor infertile woman a chance to have her own family.

Peony654 · 29/08/2023 07:11

echt · 28/08/2023 22:11

YABU OP for starting a thread about organ donation when at the very heart of it is permission, which you should know.

Organ by organ.

FFS

This. Just chose not to donate reproductive organs. Massive click bait thread. You could have saved multiple lives and now you won’t

thedancingbear · 29/08/2023 07:12

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:09

We're rapidly charging towards that point. And there has already been uterine transplants for women. I don't want any of my tissue / body parts to form any part of that experimentation / ultimate outcome.

My body, my choice. You / others don't get to decide that with the crass petty slurs and name calling.

If you want to donate, then you go ahead and make the choice for yourself, and yourself alone.

Eh? I’ve acknowledged the OP has bodily autonomy. She can do whatever she wants.

But if she’s done it as an act of anti-trans protest, it’s completely crass and could do way more harm than good. People can say that too.

Seashellies · 29/08/2023 07:13

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:09

We're rapidly charging towards that point. And there has already been uterine transplants for women. I don't want any of my tissue / body parts to form any part of that experimentation / ultimate outcome.

My body, my choice. You / others don't get to decide that with the crass petty slurs and name calling.

If you want to donate, then you go ahead and make the choice for yourself, and yourself alone.

Most people are just pointing out that if you're happy to donate other organs it's ridiculous to fully opt out when they cannot currently take these organs, and if the time comes in the future where they can you'll be able to opt out. You can also let a family member you trust your wishes and these will be respected when passed on.

Heyheyitsanotherday · 29/08/2023 07:15

You’re being extremely unreasonable and selfish. If you are ever unlucky enough to be eligible to be an organ donor firstly you have to die in a controlled way in ice. You will either be having care withdrawn or be tested for neurological death. At this point the icu team will refer you to a specialist nurse in organ donation who would assess if you’re suitable to be come a donor by looking at your history and come and speak to your family. If you opted in or not it’s your families choice to donate and what is donated. They could say no to reproductive organs during the consent form conversation if you tell them in life. Now you’ve made a stand and opted out because of reproductive organs (which isn’t happening in many of the organ donation teams anyway and it’s highly unlikely you’d be suitable if they do) the specialist nurse will now never speak to your family about anything. And more people will die waiting for vital organs. But sure… make your point.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:16

It's not ridiculous to make a choice that is different to yours. I don't want it to be where I have to actively go and opt out of that in the future. I may not be able to. I don't want or need a family member to make the choice for me. I've already made it myself. But seeing as how so many of you have jumped on the register to make sure you are donating, then I doubt my lack of donation will be missed.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:17

But sure… make your point.

It's not making a point. It's making sure my wishes are adhered to, just like you are for yourself.

Ionacat · 29/08/2023 07:18

If uterine transplants become part of NHS, then they’ll add it to the opt out same as liver, heart etc. are at the moment. You can only opt out or opt in of the organs you can donate. Everything is tightly regulated, they can’t just take anything else and everything has to be agreed with your next of kin on top. It is important to have that discussion.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:21

thedancingbear · 29/08/2023 07:12

Eh? I’ve acknowledged the OP has bodily autonomy. She can do whatever she wants.

But if she’s done it as an act of anti-trans protest, it’s completely crass and could do way more harm than good. People can say that too.

It's you that are accusing people of transphobia because some women choose to make different choices to you. Childish name-calling does not change minds. It's just exposes the weakness in your ability to debate.

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:24

Ionacat · 29/08/2023 07:18

If uterine transplants become part of NHS, then they’ll add it to the opt out same as liver, heart etc. are at the moment. You can only opt out or opt in of the organs you can donate. Everything is tightly regulated, they can’t just take anything else and everything has to be agreed with your next of kin on top. It is important to have that discussion.

Currently though, there is a presumed opt in, unless you specify what it is you do or don't want to donate / or opt out completely.

I don't want to have to keep an eye on it regularly to make sure nothing new has been added as a presumed opt in.

iloveeverykindofcat · 29/08/2023 07:25

YABU. I literally don't understand people who won't donate organs 'on principle'. Either you're a living donor in which case you fully and consciously consent, or you're dead, in which case.....you're not exactly using it????

Almahart · 29/08/2023 07:26

You're being ridiculous.

If and when reproductive organ transplants for trans people become routine on the NHS, that is the time for you to withdraw your consent.

Destiny123 · 29/08/2023 07:26

Purpledogcollar · 28/08/2023 22:04

I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

You can just specify which organs you accept/don't accept on which basis. If you don't object to normal transplant please do that, organs and lives saved are so so precious (having looked after many on the transplant list)

Destiny123 · 29/08/2023 07:29

LucyWarlowsRightHand · 28/08/2023 22:07

I withdrew after my cancer diagnosis to make doubly sure that nobody would accidentally end up with my organs in the event that I met with an accident etc.

However, I think I would quite possibly have seriously considered withdrawing anyway. The reproductive organs thing made me feel a bit like I was viewed as a series of organs for other people. My body is my own.

Theres a few cancers that are fine to still organ donate having had. The icu drs (myself) and transplant teams do extensive research before considering someone a candidate (unfortunately many have a reason they can't donate on further investigation

Seashellies · 29/08/2023 07:30

Username1107 · 29/08/2023 07:16

It's not ridiculous to make a choice that is different to yours. I don't want it to be where I have to actively go and opt out of that in the future. I may not be able to. I don't want or need a family member to make the choice for me. I've already made it myself. But seeing as how so many of you have jumped on the register to make sure you are donating, then I doubt my lack of donation will be missed.

It is ridiculous and pathetic if you were content to be a donor before.

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