Paris Fury

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Been watching the series on Netflix and really like her, she seems smart and strong and puts up with a lot. The only thing I don’t understand is allowing the kids to go to Tyson’s fights, he even says he doesn’t want them there.
Has anyone else seen the series?
it’s made me really intrigued about the traveller lifestyle and how things must be for females

He is abusive, in his words. How can you say he's not? Shouting at her and the kids is abuse.

He said he has cheated on her, he called himself a cheat

And didn't they get together at 17? What previous relationships?

I don't really care how people chose to live, so I'm not critisizing her, but Paris is traditional insofar as she believes a girl should be removed from school at 11/12 to learn how to be a good wife. She believes sex should be saved for your wedding night. She believes a woman should stand by her man regardless. Her travelling around the world doesn't change that tradition.

Lol of course not.
I’d really hope my manager/neighbour/friend wouldn’t be beating me and my family up lol 🤷🏻‍♀️

Love you tag name.
Whatever mate lol exactly!!

What when he's not admitting to cheating on her with other 500 women?

Love Paris too but she puts up with too much

Then why is it worthy of a mention that at least Paris Fury's husband doesn't beat her and their kids up?

Or are you just on a wind up here?

But he is an abusive man! Short of hitting her he’s more or less textbook abusive.

And btw disagreeing with someone is not the same as trolling. It’s a discussion forum. People are entitled to disagree.

@feralunderclass

I think it's because they are white and European (either English or Irish). If they were brown and wearing a headscarf it might bother people a lot more. In saying that, once people realize they are Travellers there was usually less sympathy for them.

Possibly. And to be clear I do think travellers face a huge amount of shocking discrimination and I absolutely agree they should be protected from this.

And as for their “cultural practices”: I am happy to respect those as long as they don’t trump the right of a woman or girl to support themselves and build some semblance of financial independence in society without recourse to a patriarchal system which very much considers them to be second class citizens and basically sees them only as producers of children and helpmeets of their menfolk.

I don’t understand why the conventions and comfort of traveller men should be prioritised over women’s basic rights and I don’t understand why there should be some special carve out of the basic rules and rights of our social contract to pander to hundred year old traditions when these privileges are not extended to other communities.

If British law stipulates that all girls should be educated to a certain standard, let that apply to everyone in the UK.

To be honest I think there would be more outrage if it was a Muslim sportsman saying that he would want to hang his sister if he felt she was promiscuous

Exactly.

Or, they could be a little more me and just scroll by and allow people to have their own opinions. Just like they’ve been allowed to their own.
If I don’t agree with someone’s opinion, I don’t comment on it. I allow it because I respect the fact that everyone has their own views and it’s ok if we don’t agree .
I could not give a shit if someone’s opinion isn’t the same as mine. Who cares, it’s mine/yours 🤷🏻‍♀️

But that defeats the point of a discussion thread, surely? If everyone is supposed to agree with the OP.

Debate and discussion is healthy and long as it’s respectful.

So how is it that I’m called ridiculous for my opinion then? Is that being respectful?
I don’t tell people that they are ridiculous if they have a different pov to me. I respect that that’s their opinion.

Ridiculous is not abuse. It’s strongly worded but if you are going to come on here and argue that a woman who tolerates cheating and verbal abuse in the most horrendously patriarchal system is a “warrior” you need to be prepared for a little bit of pushback.

But you aren't just scrolling by. You're commenting, and accusing people who disagree with you of being trolls.

Or, they could be a little more me and just scroll by and allow people to have their own opinions.

I haven't scrolled back but wasn't it you who accused posters of being trolls, because they had different opinions on your previous post?

If I don’t agree with someone’s opinion, I don’t comment on it.

Errrm that's a very unusual way of using a chat forum. Not something I've ever come across before?

Because you labelled differing opinions to your own as "trolling comments" maybe 🤔

Anyway, I have a Scots friend with 6 kids and a complete knob of a partner they've been together since she was late teens I think and it's a very similar situation it's definitely a cultural thing to stand by your man as long as on the face of it you're winning at life and have perceived high status i.e. bit of money, the kids are dressed in designer gear etc.

She would never ever stop her children from going to school though and the girls are super strong women which begs a horrible question of is what makes a strong woman growing up with a dick of a dad who takes the piss out of your mum but it's mental health and there's money kicking about so it's just one of those things

To be honest, I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I’ve enjoyed myself here today and I hope that everyone has a great bank holiday Monday 🤷🏻‍♀️✌🏻

And if those who can’t happen to be men…. then they shouldn’t be ridiculed for not being able to control their actions

Chilling words. This is how men are defended, when strangling their partners during sex, when pushing them in anger and when they kill them ‘due to stress’. We can’t expect men to control their actions.

And I hope your DC learn there is no excuse for violence ever, whether the beatings are being received or given out.

🤷🏻‍♀️✌🏻

Can we disapprove of elements of a culture without being racist?

Unfortunately not, no. Some people will create smokescreens by making accusations of racism to avoid having to have frank and difficult discussions about distasteful and problematic aspects of certain cultures.

Unless of course it's elements of white British culture you want to disapprove of. That is not only tolerated, but positively encouraged.

@RadishAndTwiglet the big difference is that no one would ever speak about any other culture the way that people have spoken about travellers on this thread.
'I once knew a traveller and she said she was beaten up by her husband'
'there was a pub in my village which was smashed up by travellers'
'Travellers can't read and write'
'Traveler's are wrong in their attitudes on education'
It's all anecdotal and hear say.

Wait what?! So what your saying, is that children are unsafe if the parents have mental health issues.
Well that means more then half of the population of children need to be care. As mental health is that common.
Educate yourself on mental health and neurodiversity, it does not mean people are incapable as parents, or the kids would even come to harm because of this, you might want to be aware of your own bias and assumptions.
It is this type of assumption that stop people getting help especially post natal depression.
You can be neurodivergent and have mental health struggles and still be a great parent.

Its also not for us to judge them or even know how much this impact their kids, they are their kids. Its non of our business.