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Beachorpoolhey · 2023-08-25T21:36:36+00:00

Been watching the series on Netflix and really like her, she seems smart and strong and puts up with a lot. The only thing I don’t understand is allowing the kids to go to Tyson’s fights, he even says he doesn’t want them there. Has anyone else seen the series? it’s made me really intrigued about the traveller lifestyle and how things must be for females

Gingernan · 28/08/2023 03:19

I only looked at this because I thought it was a cautionary tale about holidaying in the French capital.More fool me, I can't believe how many allegedly intelligent women watch this drivel.

ReformedWaywardTeen · 28/08/2023 06:29

Traveller women are very strong. People assume they are meek and get ignored and side lines by the men but not at all.
They get treated as princesses by their dads and queens by their husbands. But you cross them and you will realise the error you've made.

I think because some tend to dress quite OTT and have fake tan, huge nails etc that we just assume they're all a bit stupid and used as arm candy.

My best friend is married to a traveler (his family are Irish decent although he was born over here after they came over but considers himself Irish traveler). His family settled down when he was around mid teens but he still went off during school holidays. She didn't have a great childhood and his family have more than made up for it. They had no concerns of her not being a traveller herself. They're fiercely protective.

I'm glad Paris is able to show that no, actually, many misconceptions about the lifestyle are incorrect.

Whyohwhywyoming · 28/08/2023 06:49

Dramatic · 27/08/2023 19:21

Did you defend Jade Goody this much considering she's also an ethnic minority who was racist? Not even mentioning Tyson's mysoginy, infidelity etc.

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Yes, I defended Jade Goody. And I also pointed out that, wrt racism, that awful Jo from SClub was way worse than her - but interestingly Jade was the target of all the hate.

Beefcurtains79 · 28/08/2023 07:57

Lolly474747 · 27/08/2023 21:01

Jesus some of these responses...

I loved the show. She comes across as an incredible woman, who is accepting and compassionate about her husband mental health challenges, this is called love people unconditional love, not idiocy. Would you still say the same if he was physically disabled or got cancer I think not! There is no difference.
I would hate to think my husband would divorce me, for a mental health issue.
As for Tyson behaviour he literally cannot control mood swings, and possibly at times outlook and perspectives. When it's brain chemicals and it can cause you to have skewed thoughts and perceptions without the awareness.
I think he is very humble, and doing incredibly great for what he faces day in day out you have to consider he is possibly not medicated. Due to impact of the drugs on his career, especially adhd stimulants.
I think they have done wonderful for stigma, both for the traveller community and men's mental health.

I think people are saying she should ditch him because he cheats on her and treats her like shit, no?
Nothing to do with his mental health issues.

feralunderclass · 28/08/2023 08:11

Haven't watched the show (I was intrigued about why the OP was enraged by Paris!) but I volunteered in a DV charity and I learned a lot from the Traveller women that came in. It's a totally different lifestyle and they remove their dc from school early as they want to separate (the girls in particular) their dc from the 'English' way of life.
DV is rife and very accepted as "violence is in our men's blood". The women would come into the refuge for a night or two when things got really bad then go home again, it was almost like a form of respite for them. Some of them had been coming like this for years.
Affairs etc were normal for men as again "he's a red blooded male" but a woman could be killed for the same.
I agree with a pp that the women are very strong, they are the backbone of the family and every man puts his mother on a pedestal. The women I met were all lovely, had a lot to contend with but just tried to see the good side of everything.

feralunderclass · 28/08/2023 09:22

I've just watched an episode and I don't see what's great about them? Constantly shouting at the kids, swearing, Tyson is clearly very unstable. Reading Paris' interviews it's very clear that he has major issues that severely impact the whole family. Shes walking around on eggshells trying to placate him. If they lived on a council estate on benefits no one would have a good word to say about them.

QueenoftheNimbleFlyingCat · 28/08/2023 09:45

I honestly think Tyson Fury is a piece of shit and I feel sorry for Paris. She's a downtrodden woman who desperately is trying to create a family with a dickhead who uses mental health as a smokescreen for being an utter bellend.

Taking children and specifically girls out of school is unforgivable in my eyes though and setting them up for a lifetime of vulnerability (not her children as they have their fathers money behind them) but advocating for it is criminal.

voltacup · 28/08/2023 10:19

It might be their culture but she's completely trapped by it, stuck looking after 6 kids and with a man who seems to have no regard for her feelings and hurts her on a regular basis, cheats on her, and swans about and does as he pleases.

Great culture.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/08/2023 10:31

feralunderclass · 28/08/2023 08:11

Haven't watched the show (I was intrigued about why the OP was enraged by Paris!) but I volunteered in a DV charity and I learned a lot from the Traveller women that came in. It's a totally different lifestyle and they remove their dc from school early as they want to separate (the girls in particular) their dc from the 'English' way of life.
DV is rife and very accepted as "violence is in our men's blood". The women would come into the refuge for a night or two when things got really bad then go home again, it was almost like a form of respite for them. Some of them had been coming like this for years.
Affairs etc were normal for men as again "he's a red blooded male" but a woman could be killed for the same.
I agree with a pp that the women are very strong, they are the backbone of the family and every man puts his mother on a pedestal. The women I met were all lovely, had a lot to contend with but just tried to see the good side of everything.

Urgh. God I'm sorry but it sound utterly grim.

And I've said it before but why the double standards around, for example, forced marriages of girls to much older men in some cultures but this turning of a blind eye to girls being removed from school at the age of 12? I'm not seeing why in the former case it's considered barbaric and in the latter its a "cultural practice" which we need to pussyfoot around tolerating in order not to be accused of racism? Removing something which allows girls to protect themselves against dependence on thuggish and abusive men is barbaric and if this makes me a racist, so be it.

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 11:00

Personally, I think she’s an icon.
She takes care of her 6 children.
She loves her man through all of his challenges. He has a serious mental health condition and she supports him like a wife should. He doesn’t beat her up or the kids.
He is self aware in that he knows how his mental health is and he knows that he does not want to go back to the dark place that depression takes you. Not to mention the bi-polar disorder.
If anyone can’t understand then I guess you’ve never had mental health issues before and I’m happy for you because I know first hand what it’s like living with severe anxiety and depression and it’s not a pleasant place to be.

I think they’re a great family and she’s a warrior

voltacup · 28/08/2023 11:06

"He doesn't beat her up"
Wow the bar is high.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/08/2023 11:13

@Jacesmum1977

She loves her man through all of his challenges.

In English: she puts up with his cheating, abuse and selfishness because she believes that’s a woman’s job. Oh and he doesn’t actually hit her. So that is OK then.

If that’s your definition of a warrior I’d like to see what you think a doormat is.

FFS.

crushercreel · 28/08/2023 11:27

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 11:00

Personally, I think she’s an icon.
She takes care of her 6 children.
She loves her man through all of his challenges. He has a serious mental health condition and she supports him like a wife should. He doesn’t beat her up or the kids.
He is self aware in that he knows how his mental health is and he knows that he does not want to go back to the dark place that depression takes you. Not to mention the bi-polar disorder.
If anyone can’t understand then I guess you’ve never had mental health issues before and I’m happy for you because I know first hand what it’s like living with severe anxiety and depression and it’s not a pleasant place to be.

I think they’re a great family and she’s a warrior

He doesn't beat her up? Or the kids? That's your standard for a good husband?

Millions on people, myself included, have mental health conditions without treating their family like shit.

WhateverMate · 28/08/2023 11:31

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 11:00

Personally, I think she’s an icon.
She takes care of her 6 children.
She loves her man through all of his challenges. He has a serious mental health condition and she supports him like a wife should. He doesn’t beat her up or the kids.
He is self aware in that he knows how his mental health is and he knows that he does not want to go back to the dark place that depression takes you. Not to mention the bi-polar disorder.
If anyone can’t understand then I guess you’ve never had mental health issues before and I’m happy for you because I know first hand what it’s like living with severe anxiety and depression and it’s not a pleasant place to be.

I think they’re a great family and she’s a warrior

He doesn’t beat her up or the kids.

Aww bless him, what an amazing husband 🤦‍♀️

Proudgypsy · 28/08/2023 11:36

voltacup · 28/08/2023 10:19

It might be their culture but she's completely trapped by it, stuck looking after 6 kids and with a man who seems to have no regard for her feelings and hurts her on a regular basis, cheats on her, and swans about and does as he pleases.

Great culture.

Sorry but this is hilarious because her life is completely individual. She doesn't live according to traditional culture. She goes all over the world on private jets and yachts and you think she's trapped at home? She also works on loose women, books etc. Again not traditional.

Stop trying to blame her ethnicity for her staying with a cheating husband when it's probably got more to do with the 6 kids and £50 million.

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:03

Love the troll comments on my post which is my opinion, just like you’ve all given yours. And none of you know my definition of love and respect. This is theirs. Neither of which is wrong because it all comes down to what we think and allow as individuals.

TheDuchessOfMN · 28/08/2023 12:06

foolishone · 27/08/2023 10:25

I'm not saying she isn't but how do you know she's a fantastic mother based in her public image?

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Just from what I’ve seen on the show. She seems good to discipline, she’s very involved, runs the house very well, loving and caring, gives good advice to her teen dd (IMO, of course).

I don’t think Tyson cheats on Paris? He has admitted to being a cheater in past relationships.

crushercreel · 28/08/2023 12:08

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:03

Love the troll comments on my post which is my opinion, just like you’ve all given yours. And none of you know my definition of love and respect. This is theirs. Neither of which is wrong because it all comes down to what we think and allow as individuals.

Troll comments? Disagreeing with you or pointing out that not hitting people isn't a high bar isn't trolling ffs.

WhateverMate · 28/08/2023 12:08

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:03

Love the troll comments on my post which is my opinion, just like you’ve all given yours. And none of you know my definition of love and respect. This is theirs. Neither of which is wrong because it all comes down to what we think and allow as individuals.

Interesting take.

Could you quote the 'troll comments' please?

Or are they just comments pointing out how ridiculous your statement regarding him not beating up his wife and kids was?

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:16

I don’t know about you guys but personally I think the fact he isn’t an abusive man is a good thing. So many men (and women) are. Maybe even your ‘good’ selves?! Perhaps you’d prefer him to be so, so he can be put down some more for the way he lives his life 🤷🏻‍♀️
And again…. It’s my opinion, therefore if my opinion is ‘ridiculous’, then so is yours because your opinion isn’t more important than mine. We are equals people lol 😂 such childish nonsense honestly 🙄 have a word with yourselves

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:20

crushercreel · 28/08/2023 11:27

He doesn't beat her up? Or the kids? That's your standard for a good husband?

Millions on people, myself included, have mental health conditions without treating their family like shit.

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And that’s fantastic for those of us who can deal with mental health illness and not treat the ones closest to us like shit.
But not everyone can.
And if those who can’t happen to be men…. then they shouldn’t be ridiculed for not being able to control their actions

crushercreel · 28/08/2023 12:21

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:16

I don’t know about you guys but personally I think the fact he isn’t an abusive man is a good thing. So many men (and women) are. Maybe even your ‘good’ selves?! Perhaps you’d prefer him to be so, so he can be put down some more for the way he lives his life 🤷🏻‍♀️
And again…. It’s my opinion, therefore if my opinion is ‘ridiculous’, then so is yours because your opinion isn’t more important than mine. We are equals people lol 😂 such childish nonsense honestly 🙄 have a word with yourselves

You don't have to hit someone to be abusive.

WhateverMate · 28/08/2023 12:21

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:16

I don’t know about you guys but personally I think the fact he isn’t an abusive man is a good thing. So many men (and women) are. Maybe even your ‘good’ selves?! Perhaps you’d prefer him to be so, so he can be put down some more for the way he lives his life 🤷🏻‍♀️
And again…. It’s my opinion, therefore if my opinion is ‘ridiculous’, then so is yours because your opinion isn’t more important than mine. We are equals people lol 😂 such childish nonsense honestly 🙄 have a word with yourselves

Oh good God you really don't get it, do you? 🤦‍♀️

We should never be grateful that our loved ones don't beat us up, or anyone else for that matter.

It's the most basic level of human interaction one can reasonably expect.

Have you ever looked at your friend/manager/neighbour and thought, "Hmm can be hard to get along with at times, but at least they don't beat me and my kids up".

No? Thought not.

crushercreel · 28/08/2023 12:22

Jacesmum1977 · 28/08/2023 12:20

And that’s fantastic for those of us who can deal with mental health illness and not treat the ones closest to us like shit.
But not everyone can.
And if those who can’t happen to be men…. then they shouldn’t be ridiculed for not being able to control their actions

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If you're unable to not treat your family like shit maybe you shouldn't be around your family.

feralunderclass · 28/08/2023 12:25

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/08/2023 10:31

Urgh. God I'm sorry but it sound utterly grim.

And I've said it before but why the double standards around, for example, forced marriages of girls to much older men in some cultures but this turning of a blind eye to girls being removed from school at the age of 12? I'm not seeing why in the former case it's considered barbaric and in the latter its a "cultural practice" which we need to pussyfoot around tolerating in order not to be accused of racism? Removing something which allows girls to protect themselves against dependence on thuggish and abusive men is barbaric and if this makes me a racist, so be it.

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I think it's because they are white and European (either English or Irish). If they were brown and wearing a headscarf it might bother people a lot more. In saying that, once people realize they are Travellers there was usually less sympathy for them.