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Genuinely unsure if IABU

252 replies

devildeepbluesea · 25/08/2023 20:10

My lovely neighbour (rented property) told me on moving in that she works nights as a HCP. This is borne out, as far as it goes - she’s clearly out overnight but only for 1-2 nights per week.

In the meantime I’m pretty sure she’s running a commercial kitchen from her home, and making her living mostly from this.

Are there any circumstances where this is ok? I don’t want to knacker her income stream but equally I’m a bit worried about vermin (lots of evidence of food prep outside in the garden).

OP posts:
mdinbc · 25/08/2023 21:38

Sorry, the food industry has regulations for a reason. Residential neighbourhoods are zoned as residential, not restaurant.

She needs to show her kitchen has passed food inspection agencies, and that she has a home business license.

For any of those saying MYOB, wait until a mechanic starts up next door to them, or someone decides to run a kennel.

TeenLifeMum · 25/08/2023 21:38

I’m about to start cooking - birthday cakes for dtds so I’ll probably be up cooking until midnight. I didn’t realise there’s suitable hours to cook in your own house.

i think you’re being over sensitive but then I can’t quite imagine what prep she’s doing in the garden. I don’t think I observe my neighbours enough to create the back story you have. Maybe focus on your own life.

lljkk · 25/08/2023 21:39

CrazyArmadilloLady · 25/08/2023 21:28

From posting after every other reply, the OP now seems to have disappeared from the thread….

Once she blew it on saying the smell was terrible & great. 1/10

BustyDin · 25/08/2023 21:43

No I’m not particularly nosy

Of course you're not, OP.

TeenLifeMum · 25/08/2023 21:43

@mdinbc my neighbour bakes cakes and I only know because she has a sign up. Not intrusive and totally legal. Op hasn’t actually got evidence other than lots of cooking smells , food prep and late night cooking noise.

Fallingthroughclouds · 25/08/2023 21:45

If it is genuinely having a negative effect on you then have a polite word with her. I would never go down the reporting route though, it just seems really mean minded. Making a bit of extra money in desperate times doesn't seem too terrible. Ruining someone however is really is.

LBFseBrom · 25/08/2023 21:46

mdinbc · 25/08/2023 21:38

Sorry, the food industry has regulations for a reason. Residential neighbourhoods are zoned as residential, not restaurant.

She needs to show her kitchen has passed food inspection agencies, and that she has a home business license.

For any of those saying MYOB, wait until a mechanic starts up next door to them, or someone decides to run a kennel.

No need to apologise.

The op does not know for sure that her neighbour is cooking commercially. She could just do batch cooking and maybe has elderly relatives for whom she cooks.

Loud noise nuisance is a different matter altogether, most people would complain about that if it happened regularly.

Pudmyboy · 25/08/2023 21:47

OP YANBU, as others have said if she is preparing food for sale (or even give away to a shelter) she needs to demonstrate she is following good hygiene practices.
If she just has a very large family to feed then leave her be, but this doesn't sound like the case from your OP.

YouAreBeingUnbearable · 25/08/2023 21:49

lljkk · 25/08/2023 21:39

Once she blew it on saying the smell was terrible & great. 1/10

Stop being mean to OP. I need her to come back with what the neighbour is actually doing in her garden. At this point I don’t even care if it’s fabricated or not - I just want it to be the trestle table production line of sandwiches someone else suggested upthread.

Tonightsthenight91 · 25/08/2023 21:49

Oh get lost OP leave the poor woman alone. And yes it is cowardly, at least you’re right about that

TheShellBeach · 25/08/2023 21:49

"Slaughtering goats?"

Grin
PlayedCatsEyeMarbles · 25/08/2023 21:50

People here have odd ideas.
I wouldn’t be happy to buy from an outlet with no hygiene certificate or inspections.
Food prep in the garden, definite no.
Environmental health call is required.

LBFseBrom · 25/08/2023 21:52

You have a choice, nobody is suggesting you buy cooked food from the op's neighbour.

MarshaArt · 25/08/2023 21:52

PlayedCatsEyeMarbles · 25/08/2023 21:50

People here have odd ideas.
I wouldn’t be happy to buy from an outlet with no hygiene certificate or inspections.
Food prep in the garden, definite no.
Environmental health call is required.

I don’t think you have to purchase any food from her, I don’t think we have her address (or, in fact, any confirmation at all that she’s preparing food to sell) 😆

goingtotown · 25/08/2023 21:53

devildeepbluesea · 25/08/2023 20:26

I do know she has no food hygiene rating.
Yes she’s prepping food in the garden.
No I’m not particularly nosy but, surprise surprise I am vaguely interested in what happens less than 6foot from my doorstep.
Sometimes MN is hilarious. Live and let live - until it affects me. (and it is 🤣)

I wouldn't be happy with this situation. Speak to her about your concerns.

Katbum · 25/08/2023 22:03

I’d probably not grass on my neighbour for trying to make a living in very hard times. But each to their own. If it’s really bothering you, talk to her about it.

WetBandits · 25/08/2023 22:04

In the current economic climate, I don’t think I would judge (much less even think of reporting) my neighbour for making money any way she can!

Catusrusty · 25/08/2023 22:06

ClaraBourne · 25/08/2023 21:04

Jesus. The replies on here. The reasn why councils inspect food premises is because people can get very sick or die from unclean premises.

I bet you'd all be shouting if your mother / sister / child got ill from food prepared in unregulated premises. I can see the headlines now 'Neighbours were concerned but did nothing'. And the outrage.

This. People are behaving like cunts on this thread.

They'd hate to have unregulated food prep where they live at all hours or get sick from eating it. But no, they stick the boot in and make underhand suggestions that you are racist OP.

Massive bunch of lying hypocrites I'm afraid.

Report to environmental health before someone gets sick or you get a plague of rats.

Katbum · 25/08/2023 22:06

Also, I have an aunt who people
might think was running a commercial kitchen from her house - actually she just cooks loads for free for friends and our huge family. For example one week she made 150 cupcakes for my wedding, two birthday cakes and prepped savoury food including quiches, sausage rolls etc for her grandchildren’s party. She also just likes batch cooking, and sometimes shares food with the clients in the care home she works at. So…you don’t know til you ask.

Lavender14 · 25/08/2023 22:09

BiscuitsandPuffin · 25/08/2023 21:17

YANBU at all. MN is notoriously disgusting when it comes to what they say about food hygiene. I suspect IRL none of them would put up with this and certainly not eat from some two bit backyard burger bar but I think some people on MN are weird about food hygiene because they fancy themselves as chefs making ketchup/jam once a year and dreaming of selling it without having to get a pesky rating from the council to check they're actually washing their hands after going to the toilet.
Report to council. Ignore hypocritical dickheads.

But op doesn't actually know what this woman is doing with the food she's prepping.

MarshaArt · 25/08/2023 22:14

Catusrusty · 25/08/2023 22:06

This. People are behaving like cunts on this thread.

They'd hate to have unregulated food prep where they live at all hours or get sick from eating it. But no, they stick the boot in and make underhand suggestions that you are racist OP.

Massive bunch of lying hypocrites I'm afraid.

Report to environmental health before someone gets sick or you get a plague of rats.

All of that would be super relevant, if the OP actually knew she was prepping food commercially.

HauntedPencil · 25/08/2023 22:14

I started thinking what's the big deal but then you said prepping in the garden and that's weird/odd and I'd at least try to get to the bottom of it.

If there is excessive food waste in the harden that would bother me

devildeepbluesea · 25/08/2023 22:15

Jus returning to say I haven’t disappeared from the thread but tbh I was a bit wearied by the live and let live replies from what is, most likely , the NIMBY crew.

thank you to those who did have constructive ideas about how to deal with this. And now, definitely, I’m off. Thanks vipers for the laughs if nothing else!!

OP posts:
DonnaDonna0 · 25/08/2023 22:16

She probably isn’t coming back and I don’t blame her. Absolutely no need for some of the comments on here.

Strawberryshitcake · 25/08/2023 22:17

Ozgirl75 · 25/08/2023 20:24

So it’s literally the smell of food that’s bothering you. You haven’t seen any “vermin”, you aren’t the landlord and you don’t eat the food. Wind your neck in for goodness sake!

This is it. I’m presuming there’s probably a difference in culture too…

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