Genuinely unsure if IABU

[devildeepbluesea]

My lovely neighbour (rented property) told me on moving in that she works nights as a HCP. This is borne out, as far as it goes - she’s clearly out overnight but only for 1-2 nights per week.

In the meantime I’m pretty sure she’s running a commercial kitchen from her home, and making her living mostly from this.

Are there any circumstances where this is ok? I don’t want to knacker her income stream but equally I’m a bit worried about vermin (lots of evidence of food prep outside in the garden).

Agreed

Contact environmental health at your local council
I would g like my neighbour to be preparing food on a commercial basis in their garden either. Especially if there was food waste.

This is hilarious 😂 of course you're allowed to run a business from a rental (with permission from the landlord) and no you do not need to pay business rates on your council tax. If ever there was a comment from a middle class underachiever it's this one 'she's obviously on universal credit'.

You've never heard of Planning Use Classes, have you?

You've never heard of the Food Standards Agency have you?

Um no actually you're not allowed to run a business from your back garden in a rented domestic property and yes you do have to pay business rates as you generate more rubbish. How else do you explain how she pays her rent, council tax, gas, electric, water, internet, mobile phone, car tax n insurance, clothes, shoes, haircuts and all that food working two night a week? Smh middle class underachiever? My family have run a business since I was a small child I'm now 50 and doing very nicely thank you.

Food standard agency has nothing to do with it. We were talking about using a domestic property to run a business and paying business rates on council tax.....what's the food standard agency got to do with it? There's rules landlords have to adhere too if they're letting their domestic property for business use and pretty sure none of that has to do with the food standard agency

@JanieEyre @Emz6103

Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/run-business-from-home

None of what you so confidently claim is definite.

Do you run a food business from home? If not, then you're just making assumptions. The 'rules' landlords have to adhere to are the same for any home owner, most mortgage companies are happy if you're not using more than 20% of your home for business purposes and plenty of insurance covers home catering businesses. The landlord isn't letting a domestic property for businesses purposes, the property remains domestic because its still someone's home. You absolutely do not need to pay business rates for council tax.

WOW! Mumsnet Tera are a bit loopy at times!
Yeah sure cooking in an unhygienic garden where vermin piss is great until it poisons a member of your family or kills someone. Imagine the abuse you’d get on here if you posted saying you were aware of an illegal kitchen in your neighbours house but hadn’t reported it.. then asked if yabu because several people had fallen ill or died because of food poisoning!! Everyone would be going mad because you knew and had done nothing!
If I were you I would personally call your local council, report that you are concerned that food is being prepped illegally and in an unhygienic environment … she may also be earning money and not declaring it, although this would bother me less!..

I feel you have a duty to report her, if her kitchen meets standards she can apply for whatever permits she needs!
Might also be worth suggesting this ‘business’ to the landlord.. like you say it might affect her insurance, and if her house burns and catches your place alight and isn’t covered because it’s an ‘illegal business’ who pays for your damage?!?@devildeepbluesea

Are people on here being especially dense today?

There is no real evidence this poor lady is doing anything commercial in her back garden!

@Emz6103

The OP is long gone people ….

Yes, but she has suspicions and these should be passed onto the police and local authorities. Especially if the neighbour is forin as she is obviously up to np good.

we had some forin people in our village and myself and all the neighbours called the police and insisted that they arrest them just to make sure. Our local friendly Bobby roughed them up a bit and then let them go as he said they had done nothing wrong. But at the parish council we suggested that they should have been held under the antiterrorism act until they could prove they were innocent. They look forin and suspicious to me and my neighbours.

You can never be sure and it is better to be safe than sorry.

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@Emz6103

Well done? Correcting a deliberate spelling mistake... so worth your time there 😂

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Yes having foriners next door will always ensure vermin. I would call the police immediately or the SAS to take her out.

Normal British people cannot have a hatred of foreigners anymore without people calling them racist. What is this world coming to?

just wait until the Daily Mail hears about all your woke nonsense.

This.

Yeah sure cooking in an unhygienic garden where vermin piss is great until it poisons a member of your family or kills someone.

You do realise people cook outside all the time, don't you ? I mean, many of us manage to BBQ without rubbing wood in the piss of foxes, badgers, deer, rats, cats or hedgehogs.

@MadeleineMummy You are cracking me up on this thread

Thanks.

I came here because my youngest was moving to secondary school and wanted a second opinion. Whilst I did find some good and decent knowledge, outside of the school forums, I found the most bigoted small minded and petty interfering gossip mongerers and busybodies and I felt I had dived into a quagmire of stultified fascism straight out of the express, mail and Torygraph. I work in a bit of an intelligentsia echo chamber and to be frank, I am really frightened by the opinions and views of what seems like a significant minority of bigots on these forums that lack basic empathy or cognitive abilities to understand how their viewpoints are skewed and lacking in basic common sense. I would have expected more from the sisterhood.

I suppose this is symptomatic of contemporary Britain and provides a good anthropological snapshot of the state of society.

@MadeleineMummy

I'm sorry but the only person fitting your very wordy description on this thread is you.

The sisterhood 😂

We disagree with you and you use that 🙄

I’m sure lots do manage to have BBQ’s outside, however the law around food prep doesn’t apply if cooking for yourself/guests. It’s very different if you are prepping food and selling it to the general public though…. Or do you not worry about only eating in hygienic restaurants? Would you eat in a place with a bad hygiene score?
If she is operating an illegal business from her property her insurance won’t be valid….
I’ve not seen anywhere where OP states this lady isn’t British either, no one has suggested foreigners attract rats, that’s absurd… but leave food waste around in the garden which is what OP was concerned about would attract vermin…
People on here are it picking and turning it into something it isn’t. OP suspects an illegal business, she’s concerned about the waste attracting vermin… of course she should report