To think neighbour is an absolute c**t!

[CanNeverThinkOfAName]

Massive row with new neighbours last night which had other neighbours coming outside due the shouting. Totally mortifying and want opinions on whether neighbour is the c**t we think he is!

Moved into property a few months ago with a drive with space for 3 cars back to back at the side round the corner. We enter house through back door as that's where drive is. We have a works van and other cars that park opposite our drive and it can be pain to get out but only takes a few more seconds to manoeuvre. Not a big issue. and not something I'd complain about as it's not parked illegally.

Front door is near the bottom of a dead end road - pavement and road in front two car widths wide. Directly opposite front of house, both houses have drives big enough to fit two cars side by side. Have one car each so plenty of room on drive.

Lots of cars parked at top of road as many do not have drives so it's basically a one car width road due to parked cars. At the top of the road there are about 6 properties with one car drives with cars constantly parked opposite.

No one parks in front of our house and I wouldn't have an issue if they did.

We had 3 cars (including DDs's). DD occasionally parked in road at front of house if she come in late as DH leaves for work early so he'd have to move her car out first. Perfectly legal to park there and neighbours opposite have room (one road width) to get out of their drives.

Anyway DD has now moved in with boyfriend and hasn't been at home for a few weeks so has not parked at front for that period. Last night she popped round to pick up a few bits. Parked in front of house so she could come in front door and carry stuff out.

She'd been in house for literally 2 minutes and neighbour opposite front knocked and said she needed to move her car now. It was 10pm. We've never spoken a word to them before as we rarely use the front door.

DH basically said what's the problem, your drive is not blocked, she'll be going shortly, you're not even going out now are you? Neighbour said DH was being a prick and we had a 3 car drive so shouldn't be parking on the road ever. He's going to call the police.

DH did get rather angry at being called a prick and told neighbour to get off property and car would not be moved, he can call police etc. Neighbour then starts shouting that he's had enough, he's put up with it for ages (we've lived there 2 months!), who do we think we are etc. His wife comes out shouting, other opposite neighbours come out shouting that we're blocking emergency vehicles and rude etc, etc. We are certainly not blocking emergency vehicles, cars are parked all down the road and bin trucks get through fine!

DD is mortified and insists she'll move the car (bit annoyed at that) despite DH telling her not to. Neighbour says to her 'at least you're a decent one' which enrages both DH and I even more. DD is furious her Dad has been called a prick and shouts at neighbour that he's not decent either for swearing at her Dad.

Neighbour refuses to get out of front garden and keeps saying how horrible we are. Other neighbours have opened doors to listen by then so whole street will have heard. Had to slam door on him in the end.

He had his leg in a cast and was going on that he's had to come over to our house while in pain and didn't want to stand there any longer but he wouldn't leave as he wanted to continue the argument🤔

Neighbour now thinks he can tell us where to park and is the dogs bollocks probably thinking that told them!

Who was BU?

I've asked DD's boyfriend to park his battered transit van in front our house for the weekend - unreasonable?

Sorry but it does kind look like your daughter has parked opposite their driveway

But unless he was planning to go out and drive at 10pm (with a broken leg) he was being unreasonable to make a scene

You need to tell our council that as they've marked out parking bays in our road, many of which are opposite two or more drives. In fact, it's created a slalom course down the road. Mind you, nobody struggles to get out as everyone round here can drive properly.

They also put double yellow lines around the corners which extend about 5 metres each way.

Lots of people don't like/can't reverse park into their driveway which would make it easier to exit

There Is a junction. I've highlighted it for you. It is a T-junction. HTH

On the face of it he sounds like the CH but your neighbours who got involved took his side. That tells you something. Why would multiple people be irritated with you if you weren’t causing an issue? Even if on this occasion you weren’t there’s obviously a history.

@WhistPie a "slalom" run is standard in London, never heard it called that before though!

And plenty of councils put marked parking bays under 10 ft of a junction round here

It seems crazy to me and I don't know why you seem to be getting so much criticism. In my world if it bothered the neighbour I'd expect him to come over and introduce himself and say he finds it awkward to get his car off the drive when your DD parks right there, any chance she could just pull forward/back a bit to make life easier. Your husband would probably have said something like yes I'll speak to her, she probably didn't realise it would be a problem, nice to meet you. All sorted, no issue.

I live in a narrow cul de sac, we have 3 cars we park on the drive, people opposite have a one car drive and 3 cars. Their DD often parks outside my house, no problem, she often parks so close to our drive that it makes it awkward, not impossible, for me to get the car at that end of our drive out due to how narrow the road is. I sometimes think I'll mention it but then I think she's a teenager with her first car and I don't want to embarrass her.

His behaviour was not great but I just don’t understand why people don’t use their drives. We have a neighbour who is a few houses down who parks both their cars on the road and they have a huge drive, I have never seen their cars on their drive. Fortunately parking is not much of an issue on my road. The same thing happens in my friends road but most houses do not have drives and parking is a huge issues, they are mainly Victorian town houses so can’t even have a small one car space made.

If you state you car is parked on a drive overnight it can bring down your insurance premium. We assume our neighbours don’t like other cars near their houses, I prefer a cheaper premium.

😲

We often have this issue with people parking their cars opposite our drive so it makes it awkward to reverse out the drive so now, I always reverse into my drive so it's easier to drive out if someone is parked opposite.

There are days when I seethe when I see a car parked there but there's nothing I can do about it.

If your diagram shows a true picture of there being ample space for your over the road neighbours to get their cars out then I would say they are being obtuse and difficult.

If emergency vehicles and bin lorries can get through (if for example your daughter parked there all the time), then there isn't an issue.

I wonder if your neighbour had major issues with previous owners and their parking? If that's the case, it should have been raised that there were issues with neighbours when you bought the place? (assuming you purchased it?)

His language was out of order but he has a point, everyone else parks on one side of the road so DD parking on the opposite side will make it more difficult for anyone to pass and particularly Cneighbour and Ineighbour.

Having now seen your diagram it is a dick place to park too near junction

She was there, temporarily, loading her car. Her car was parked legally.

Why shouldn't she make it easy to load her car, when it wasn't staying there and she wasn't inconveniencing anyone or blocking the road?

She didn't do anything wrong!!

I'm not sure why you escalated things when you could have just said crack on with phoning the police and not entertained them, it's not like the police are going to do anything if the parking isn't causing an issue is it. The fact that other neighbours also mentioned emergency access makes it seem like perhaps your DDs car was causing more issue than you think, I'd just try and figure out how to get 3 cars onto a 3 car driveway personally rather than be petty and keep inflaming things.

I dunno, this is written to show you’re absolutely in the right and not blocking anything, but the fact you were the only people to think so and other neighbours came out and agreed with him, says there is more to this and you might be causing an issue.

In fact I’d say it’s more than likely you are, otherwise others wouldn’t have come out and said the same thing.

You can't do that on a public road. The car would be undrivable so need to be SORN which mean it can only be kept on private land.

Right! Also, a reasonable person would note the car parked across the road late at night if it might present an issue, but wouldn't instantly scurry outside and make a scene about it. Most people would wait and see how long it was parked there before saying anything. And certainly they wouldn't come out guns blazing within minutes, that's insane behaviour. The other neighbours are probably his buddies/henchmen who don't want him to turn on them so just go along with his bullshit.

Right, because it's totally plausible that OP is unreasonable but never the neighbours (two aides of a semi that might be best friends for all we know, it's not the whole street out in force against OP.) That's obviously the only possible conclusion we could make from the evidence.

It truly frightens me that the general public is allowed to sit on juries if this is the caliber of critical thinking we're working with in the UK.

On a jury you have actual evidence from both sides rather than the account of one, not comparable. OPs DH was unreasonable to escalate things regardless of whether the neighbour was unreasonable or saying something reasonable is my personal view. When all we can do is take responsibility of our own actions perhaps it's better to reflect on those (and no I don't mean just abide by what everyone else says for an easy life).

When the whole world is against you its rarely EVERYONE else in cahoots and usually that you are in the wrong.

I live on a street like this an NO ONE has ever parked on the driving side, its just common bloody sense and a danger. Could also be illegal and invalidate your insurance as it is used as a two way single lane road which mean you need to leave your lights on to alert other drivers of your obstruction as the front of the car doesn't have reflectors.

Since neighbor has clearly had medical treatment, repetitively mentioned medical access and neighbors joined it it seems like he likely needed medical help that was hindered but your illegal parking.

There's ZERO reason you couldn't park in line with the other cars which any decent person would do.

The words you are looking for to say to your neighbor is 'I'm sorry'.

Also, a reasonable person would note the car parked across the road late at night if it might present an issue, but wouldn't instantly scurry outside and make a scene about it.

Now don't go bringing logic or common sense in here!,,

Juries are NOT one sided heresay.

OP has proved herself unreasonable in her OWN account without the neighbor even needing to defend themselves... pretty open and shut.

We often have this issue with people parking their cars opposite our drive so it makes it awkward to reverse out the drive so now, I always reverse into my drive so it's easier to drive out if someone is parked opposite.

Isn't it good practice to always reverse into your driveway?

The highway code says you shouldn't park within 32 feet of a junction. That is why no one has parked on the other side!
Your dd ( and many others on here) need to learn the highway code.

@JusthereforXmas where I live it's completely normal to park on both sides & no one leaves their lights on.

Can you imagine?!