To think neighbour is an absolute c**t!

[CanNeverThinkOfAName]

Massive row with new neighbours last night which had other neighbours coming outside due the shouting. Totally mortifying and want opinions on whether neighbour is the c**t we think he is!

Moved into property a few months ago with a drive with space for 3 cars back to back at the side round the corner. We enter house through back door as that's where drive is. We have a works van and other cars that park opposite our drive and it can be pain to get out but only takes a few more seconds to manoeuvre. Not a big issue. and not something I'd complain about as it's not parked illegally.

Front door is near the bottom of a dead end road - pavement and road in front two car widths wide. Directly opposite front of house, both houses have drives big enough to fit two cars side by side. Have one car each so plenty of room on drive.

Lots of cars parked at top of road as many do not have drives so it's basically a one car width road due to parked cars. At the top of the road there are about 6 properties with one car drives with cars constantly parked opposite.

No one parks in front of our house and I wouldn't have an issue if they did.

We had 3 cars (including DDs's). DD occasionally parked in road at front of house if she come in late as DH leaves for work early so he'd have to move her car out first. Perfectly legal to park there and neighbours opposite have room (one road width) to get out of their drives.

Anyway DD has now moved in with boyfriend and hasn't been at home for a few weeks so has not parked at front for that period. Last night she popped round to pick up a few bits. Parked in front of house so she could come in front door and carry stuff out.

She'd been in house for literally 2 minutes and neighbour opposite front knocked and said she needed to move her car now. It was 10pm. We've never spoken a word to them before as we rarely use the front door.

DH basically said what's the problem, your drive is not blocked, she'll be going shortly, you're not even going out now are you? Neighbour said DH was being a prick and we had a 3 car drive so shouldn't be parking on the road ever. He's going to call the police.

DH did get rather angry at being called a prick and told neighbour to get off property and car would not be moved, he can call police etc. Neighbour then starts shouting that he's had enough, he's put up with it for ages (we've lived there 2 months!), who do we think we are etc. His wife comes out shouting, other opposite neighbours come out shouting that we're blocking emergency vehicles and rude etc, etc. We are certainly not blocking emergency vehicles, cars are parked all down the road and bin trucks get through fine!

DD is mortified and insists she'll move the car (bit annoyed at that) despite DH telling her not to. Neighbour says to her 'at least you're a decent one' which enrages both DH and I even more. DD is furious her Dad has been called a prick and shouts at neighbour that he's not decent either for swearing at her Dad.

Neighbour refuses to get out of front garden and keeps saying how horrible we are. Other neighbours have opened doors to listen by then so whole street will have heard. Had to slam door on him in the end.

He had his leg in a cast and was going on that he's had to come over to our house while in pain and didn't want to stand there any longer but he wouldn't leave as he wanted to continue the argument🤔

Neighbour now thinks he can tell us where to park and is the dogs bollocks probably thinking that told them!

Who was BU?

I've asked DD's boyfriend to park his battered transit van in front our house for the weekend - unreasonable?

The emergency vehicle thing was a stupid argument as the top of the road is so congested, if that was the case they wouldn't be able to in the road at all let alone get down to our less congested part of the road at the bottom! Bin lorries get down absolutely fine!

Sorry I suppose it is a junction if you want to be pedantic about it - a small dead end side road off the main street but not as the PP pictured it as a busy thoroughfare with loads of cars queuing to go down it. It's only access for 3 houses and a few neighbours from the main street who park their cars opposite our drives who go down there.

If all your neighbours are complaining, you are the problem, you should have bought a house that could accommodate your vehicles

Urgh we had this with our neighbours. We had a double drive and DH used to park a trailer on OUR land as well as his pick up and I used to park my car on the road (leaving more than enough space on pavement for pedestrians, prams etc) in front of our house on the flat bit of pavement up to our drive. Many people on the estate also parked on the road/pavement but our neighbours decided to come out threatening to hit him, call the police, call the council bla bla because the trailer was an 'eyesore' and 'spoilt their view' to the green outside (which said 'no ball games' but their kids used to go play football on it and the CF wanted to watch her kids and when we parked on OUR drive it blocked her view 🤣🤣). Some people are just morons. Ignore and move on! I agree living next to someone with bad feeling isn't ideal but some people are just idiots.

@MrsSkylerWhite

because she wanted to be near the front door to load & unload her car, not the back door where the drive is. If she was parked legally, that's her choice.

Stupid way to park, sorry. Seems like all other cars park on one side of the road, not your side. She should have just parked on the drive.

I’d chalk this up to new neighbor jitters on both sides. Yes you can park on the street but (and I’ve had a glass of wine so I could have gotten lost in the OP) you’ve had a higher number of cars than usual since you’ve moved in (which is understandable).

There’s really no way to tell who is in the wrong here, if anyone.

My advice let things settle for a bit and then maybe try the whole ‘gee we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot’ thing. You don’t have to be best friends, nor roll over at unreasonable whims… but this is a neighbor and you probably want to aim for civil.

Ime the best way to deal with people who will actively look for a row is to be singularly unbothered. Always look cheerful, never scowl in their direction and make a point of being happy when you see them.

Winds them up something chronic and makes them realise that you are unbullyable.

YANBU

Looking at the diagram, YABU to park a car there. It is making it difficult for everyone to get past on the road and for neighbours opp to get on and off their drives.

DH was rude and argumentative when the neighbour came over to politely ask for DD car to be moved.

It wouldn't have hurt for DD to park across your drive entrance instead.

And yes you get up and move cars around in the morning if needs be for work etc, that's what normal people do

Your daughter obviously didn't realise and neighbour over reacted however I think YABU because most people don't confront their neighbours unless they are being really annoying.
And I reckon you're the annoying one who's been called out on inconsiderate behaviour 🤷‍♀️

YANBU. Your daughter parked TEMPORARILY in a LEGAL spot in the MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. Your neighbor is being a turd.

However, I assume this was "the straw that broke the camel's back" from your neighbor's point of view. It sounds like people are allowed to park where your daughter did, but, for whatever reason, that spot angers your neighbor. So after you guys were parking there for a while (in spite of the two week hiatus), he flew off the handle when he saw it happening again.

Anyway, I think you just use that spot sparingly and give him the finger the next time you see him. I'm not one for killing people with kindness when they've been assholes. Let them reap what they sow, I say.

I can see why you’d be miffed when people further up the main road park opposite your drive and you don’t complain. But when you / your family park opposite other people’s drives, they’re going mad about it (now.)
I wonder if there’s some sort of unwritten agreement in your street about the parking that you are only just learning? Why do the people that park opposite your drive (or anyone else) not park in front of your house, for example?

I do find it annoying when anything is parked opposite my drive (especially when there are less bothersome spaces nearby) but it’s not impossible to manoeuvre out. Just makes me think they’re a bit ignorant. Is it maybe worth doing a bit of digging to find out the history / score with the on-street parking in your new home? I hope it can all be resolved as it’s the pits to have bad feeling on your doorstep.

@BodegaSushi

why?

she wanted to unload & load her car, via the front door, not on the driveway by the back door.

she was parked legally, the neighbour doesn't own the road!

I wonder if there’s some history here with the previous owner of your house op? It seems strange for your neighbour to lose it all of a sudden like this. Maybe he has found it annoying for a while and thought the issue has stopped when your DD moved out.

I wouldn’t advise going down the route of antagonising your neighbour further by parking a van there. These things can get out of hand very quickly and if you can avoid further conflict I would. I can see both sides tbh. Legally there’s nothing wrong with the way your DD parked, however it does make things tricky for your neighbours and was avoidable since she could have parked on your drive.

I can't get my head around all this but if everyone parks where is legal and does not interfere with anyone or thing then anyone different is in the wrong

Was anyone parked illegally? Or to prevent anyone doing normal car things?

If your DD had moved her car when asked to, none of it would have happened. Sometimes for the sake of living in peace, we just have to compromise and do stuff even if we're legally not in the wrong.

Unfortunately you have a first class war going on which will only escalate unless someone puts it right. If it were me, I'd go and apologise to the neighbour for letting it get so badly out of hand and ask if you can start over, otherwise you could be in for a world of pain.

This.

You have to live there, preferably without involving the police. If more than one set of neighbours complained then the chances are yabu.

Try to calm things down.

You sound as bad as each other.

YANBU.

I'd make a point to park a car there every day, to train him out of his nasty, entitled mindset.

Why should she pander to an obnoxious, entitled old goat?

We've heard one side of the story and you yourself said multiple neighbour's told you they were fed up, it sounds like we haven't heard the full story and you are repeatedly blocking roads.

We have a similar parking set up. If someone park's opposite us it's tight to get out but absolutely manageable. I would only ask them to move if I literally couldn't. Same situation because a lot of people only have room for one car on drive there's a lot of on street parking with enough room for one car /van to get through . We have two adult dd with bfs so sometimes are trying to park five cars! Crap parking is part of living on an estate. Your neighbours were the dicks but you have to live there I'd take flowers round and apologise thst things got heated.

On Britain's crowded streets your neighbours are very unreasonable to demand that people do not park on the other side of the road to their driveways.
Your neighbours were even more unreasonable to knock at 10pm start shouting and insult your DH.
It is difficult to know how to deal with people who behave so unreasonably. Perhaps your DH should have simply ignored him and gone inside but that might not have worked. Neighbour might have simply continued shouting outside your door. I don't know how you could have solved the aggressive situation that was create by your neighbours' unreasonable, anti-social and aggressive behaviour.

The fact its not just one neighbour says it all. In a small road work vehicles can easily hender emergency vehicles. Why don't you park them all on the drive.