Dogs in Greggs

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I'm in Greggs getting my free O2 coffee. There's a dog next to the counter.

Surely dogs in open food places shouldn't be allowed?

YABU - of course all dogs can go in these places
YANBU - dogs have no place there

(Awaits the Greggs comments...🤣)

I've stepped in dog shit in the indoor part of a garden centre and seen cafe staff petting a dog then serve me and go to make my sandwich without washing her hands. I told her to wash her hands and she looked at me like I was mad. Never been there since and I used to go once a week when I was in the office and spend at least £10. So around £400 a year they have lost from me.

I think this debate is more about humans. They are the owners, the parents and the cafe staff.
be considerate, be responsible be respectful and be hygienic and the issues don’t exist.

Given the food in greggs is mostly behind the Perspex screen and it’s normally a case of go in, buy the food and leave to eat it elsewhere, I wouldn’t really have an issue with the dog. I doubt it was climbing into the fridges. I suppose it’s annoying that it’s against the rules but it seems no one challenged the dog owner on it, including OP!

Exactly - that's the issue. The staff know they'll get abuse so they don't bother.

My mum said similar - she was in a cafe where the staff member behind the counter came out to pet a dog and then didn't wash her hands. My mum said something and she looked similarly surprised.

That's the issue I think - dog lovers can't understand why the rest of us have a hygiene issue as they're happy to kiss their dogs and often share a bed with them.

Who can blame them!

Or HCPs or other workers when the idea of 'emotional support dogs' became popular where trained working dogs were conflated with someone buying a 'therapeutic dog' vest on Amazon meant they felt they should take their dog everywhere as they then couldn't be challenged

The guidance from the EHRC says that you can't challenge if a dog is an assistance dog. That's guidance, not the actual law so would have to be tested in court - but I don't agree with it anyway. If your dog is a genuine assistance dog you'll have the paperwork to prove it and why wouldn't you show it - you have to display a blue badge to access parking spaces, and a disabled rail card o to get discounted travel, so it's not unreasonable to show that your dog is entitled to be in spaces where they wouldn't otherwise be.

It's obvious with guide dogs, but not so obvious with other types of assistance dog.

Definitely not me!

I worked in a REALLY rough Spar as a student and the owner expected me, 18 years old and six stone wet through, to challenge shoplifters. Not a chance would I - the minimum wage wasn’t worth the aggro. So I never blame shop staff for keeping quiet when technically they shouldn’t

You are completely right.

I inherited a small shop that had a daily customer who always brought his dog in. I offended the owner by telling him to carry his dog or leave it outside as I caught him (the dog - though I wouldn't have put it past the owner) pissing against the counter.

I have dogs. I worm them and de-flea them regularly for their own health. They're in contact with other dogs with some owners that don't believe in using health treatments on their animals. I shudder to think what parasites they're coming into contact with.

I don't understand people who feel the need to carry their dogs around everywhere or leave them in places where others eat or shop. It IS a hygiene issue and can be an issue for people with allergies.

Service dogs that are supported by registered charities are trained and have their health monitored and are the obvious exception but I'm wary of people who insist their dog is a support animal and then let it wander around cafes while they have coffee with their friends.

I feel really sorry for the dogs belonging to these people. They have no idea how overwhelming the sounds and smells can be for dogs yet often make sure their children wear ear defenders when out as they consider their children sensitive and easily overwhelmed (looking particularly at my nephew's gf).

People are treating their animals like accessories. It reminds me very much of kept monkeys being made to dance or be photographed with tourists in poorer countries that don't have good animal rights laws.

It's never the animal and always the person.

So what germs do you think dogs have that assistance dogs magically don't have? On these threads, it's always the same thing said yet nobody ever provides an answer. If you are happy to have the presence of a guide dog etc in an eatery, why are you so bothered by other dogs aside from saying assistance dogs are different.

Dogs have been allowed in pubs for ever, so I don't have any problems with dogs in cafe's or pubs. I think the line is probably in supermarkets and restaurants though, but more from a trip and space hazard than a health one.

I have worked in two office where the bosses brought in their dogs every day. It was particularly lovely on cold mornings to put your feet on a dozing lab!

How do you know it wasn't an assistance dog? We are getting more and more people bringing in assistance dogs where I work. Some wear a marked harness, some don't, but their owners carry a card. The dogs range wildly in breed from little things easily carried, upwards. Last weekend we had someone with an assistance rottie

A trial of dog friendly shopping ended at Glasgow Silverburn Shopping Centre because of “ instances of dog fouling “. ..

that's the problem, the arguing. When you're a shop worker on minimum wage, are you going to start challenging an entitled fur-mum who has taken her precious little fur-baby into Greggs to drool over the steak bakes, risking her giving you a mouthful of abuse or punching you?

Course you're not. Which is what the entitled dog-obsessed are banking on. That nobody will be brave enough to address their cheeky fuckery.

Yeah the old human phobia is really common these days

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I say this as a dog lover, but I’ve seen an increasing number of dogs in motorway service stations and wonder why they can’t be left in the car, unless it is hot in which case there’s plenty of outdoor seating.

My uncle has a Guide Dog. He has all the health checks and is given anti-parasite treatment etc.

The kinds of people that strap a vest on their dogs are hit or miss with treatments. My nephew's gf won't worm her dog (that she allows to lick her face) as she considers the treatments the devil's work. She thinks it's hilarious the way her dog scoots across the floor on his bum and refuses to believe that he's doing it because it's itching due to worms!

If a dog is scratching he likely has fleas. If he has fleas he almost always has worms.

How do you know that sandwich pack you pick up from an open fridge hasn't been licked by an untreated dog? You won't unless you get a tapeworm.

I wouldn't leave my dog in the car because he would bark and howl and get himself really worked up. He's happy being left at home but hates being left in the car without someone with him.

If I was alone and had the option to bring him in with me then I would, because it would be less stressful for both of us. I also worry about someone reporting me for leaving him in the car as he doesn't just sit there quietly.

Because people are selfish. Or stupid and have no consideration for the overwhelming places they take their dogs.

Other dogs are also given all the anti parasite treatment/fleaing and worming. Somebody has mentioned dogs sitting in motorway services, while forgetting workmen use those services, in their work clothes. You could drive pick holes at most of the feigning of shock, horror at dogs in public places.

Where I am there's plenty of signs in the shop windows saying dogs welcome. So presumably an owner's decision, not a shop assistant who doesn't dare tell the dog owner they can't come in. Which is great being able to take my dog out with me. She loves it. If people don't like shops that have been made dog friendly by the business owner, then they don't have to use them.

Yawn.another dogs should be extinct post.
Yabu.There are a lot of people on holiday who are not allowed to leave dogs alone in rented accommodation and nobody but a complete and utter idiot would leave a dog in a car for any length of time whatsoever.So the dog owners are stuck,they can spend hours on beaches...oh no dogs not welcome there either....once the dogs are walked in the countryside,why should owner be penalised for taking a dog for a wander around?dogs generally are better behaved than entitled unruly kids running around screaming,in out of changing rooms,dirty hands on clothes,smashing delicate china.so long as dog has access to plenty of water and is kept cool they are ok.

Not all. Chatting to my vet receptionist about the number of dog owners and the treatment sales and vaccinations have not gone up in line with them.

Apparently, many people prefer "healthy" options (that don't work) for their dogs. If they bother.

I'd hope the vast majority of workmen wouldn't piss anywhere other than the toilets and don't have fleas or worms.