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Disappointed and hurt by brother's behaviour

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:08

I'm a long-time reader on MN, but first time poster.
Brought myself to post here as I tried sleeping over it last night to see if I felt any better this morning, but it didn't work, I almost got no sleep, and I'm still feeling very wounded.
Basically, long story short, my husband and I had been looking forward for months now, to my little brother (29) and his girlfriend to come visit us. They would stop at our place from this coming Thursday, for the bank holiday weekend, and fly home on Tuesday.
All my family lives abroad, in my home country in Europe, and brother had planned and booked this trip since January. According to them, they had been looking forward to.
While over the course of the months I asked them, what are they interested in seeing, we can take you around etc etc, very little to no input at all was given, so I did lots of planning, found some nice sightseeing, booked transportation (brother offered to pay for car rental), planned for all the food, and last week I prepped the guest bedroom for them, washed all the sheets, started doing some big cleaning in the house, and got around £200 food shop in. I even went as far as planning evening by evening ‘theme’ nights in terms of food (very fundamental to hosting in my country haha). We don’t have guests often, and we really wanted them to have a great time.
Last Friday brother calls me up that he’s a bit pissed off that the airline moved their flight to London from early morning to later in the afternoon. I understand and can empathise with the fact he felt a bit ‘ripped off’, although it can happen with airlines these days. However, he still had 4 full days and 1/2 left that he could spend with us and explore around the South East.
He tried calling up the airline, but they wouldn’t offer compensation, as they still chose to fly out, just later on the same day.
On Saturday and Sunday we had two videocalls discussing the sightseeing etc, they still seemed very happy to come see us, although they now complained about the weather. I am from a country that is very warm in the Summer, I said, you guys know the weather in the UK is not as hot nor reliably warm in the Summer, but at least it’s not scalding, you won’t sweat, and we even got the rental car, if it rains at all we can always drive around more, go to castles/museums etc – I’m surprised the weather seemed that important now, considering they were mainly coming round to make memories with us, see our home (they hadn’t been before), and just spending time together – this is what they previously said.
Yesterday in the morning I spoke with my brother on how to get to and from the airport, what to do on the first couple of days etc. Around lunchtime he sends me a voice message saying that with the girlfriend they were considering getting a refund on the flight, and reschedule altogether for next year, but sister can you also cancel the car rental for us in the meantime? He was just on the phone line with the airline to see whether a full refund would be given if they didn’t fly. The airline confirmed they would, so brother followed up in the mid afternoon saying they cancelled. He said they were sorry not to come this time, but he’s already looking at next Spring/Summer, he asked, would that be a good time for us to host them?
I was speechless, and deeply hurt. I spoke with husband, he couldn’t believe it. All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in, and also we have a fully stocked fridge and freezer with lots of premium products we wouldn’t have otherwise got. It felt like a slap in the face, but the worst thing for me was that they didn’t apologise, not one word of apology.
All I could muster to say on the call with him was, wow that’s a bit last minute, we had been looking forward for so long, had got even your bedsheets all washed and ironed, all the food shop etc. I was literally joking the day before with him saying we got more drinks in for them than a bar. I said I was feeling very sorry they “had to change their plans”. Not much said from him, other than “ah, but we can visit you next year, it will be alright”.
My mom, who I had spoken with yesterday after this as well, was embarrassed and very disappointed by my brother’s and girlfriend’s behaviour, she called it ‘very selfish’. I agree with her, but wished I had said it in his face. Luckily my mom didn’t spare words when she spoke with him yesterday. At least he got a good telling-off from her.
Later in the evening, I called my mom up, and it comes out that my brother told her that the main reason why they cancelled was – that they could keep an extra couple of days for ‘themselves’ to roll over into 2024, so they could take a longer holiday overseas just the two of them. So, the flight being delayed was a ‘blessing’ for them. Which makes me question if they ever even cared to visit us in the first place.
Also, money was not an issue really – they had been on a few trips this year, this holiday would have cost them £500 in total for the two of them, so them getting all flustered about
I’m just feeling so deflated right now. Wounded and disappointed. Husband and I are flying home next month, and I feel sick at the prospect of seeing them two. I don’t even look forward to hosting them next year. I’m just feeling very low, rejected almost, like we weren't deserving of their time off.
AIBU for feeling this way?
I’m also disappointed with myself that I didn’t tell him to f* off tbh. Any suggestions, should I forgive and forget, or give them the benefit of the doubt and welcome them next year?

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19lottie82 · 22/08/2023 13:10

It’s inconvenient and disappointing, I understand that, BUT you seem very dramatic.

Summerrainagain1 · 22/08/2023 13:14

I think on the face of it you are overreacting a bit, BUT all my family live abroad so I know how emotionally it hits.

I would welcome him back next year, but tell him you will not make any plans/ go out of your way etc in advance.

gamerchick · 22/08/2023 13:16

I probably wouldn't host next year. Tell them you're looking forward to it and you'll meet up with them for social stuff and send them links to local hotels.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:17

19lottie82 · 22/08/2023 13:10

It’s inconvenient and disappointing, I understand that, BUT you seem very dramatic.

I probably am a bit dramatic. Although I blame it on having done so much for them for absolutely nothing.

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SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 22/08/2023 13:18

My family don't live in a different country so I'm not sure if that is skewing things for me, but you seem very dramatic.

You've gone above and beyond for them but it sounds like they didn't ask you to do any of this. You even said they weren't really participating in planning things so I think you went a bit OTT.

You've built this up a lot in your head and now feel let down. I think it seems like a disproportionate response

FictionalCharacter · 22/08/2023 13:19

That’s really mean of them and it’s disappointing that he doesn’t feel the need to apologise. However you telling them to fuck off would have achieved nothing. Your mum has told him off so good on her.

If you host them next year, don’t go to all the trouble you did this time - buying special food, hiring a car, planning outings - and if he complains tell him it’s because he let you down this year and you didn’t know whether he would do the same again.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 22/08/2023 13:20

At least you know for next time not to put yourself out as much.

I'd probably tell brother when you see him next month that you were really disappointed that he cancelled on you at such short notice and that you'd spent a lot of time and effort on their trip.

GalileoHumpkins · 22/08/2023 13:21

You got carried away even though they seemed a bit lukewarm on the sightseeing and planning. I think you went way overboard for such a short trip. I can understand being disappointed but you're being way too dramatic.

Windthebloodybobbinup · 22/08/2023 13:22

I completely understand and would have been gutted on your shoes. Your brother sounds very much like mine- poor communicator, not clear about what he wants, goes along with things then bails out at the last minute.
I think you might have a tendency, like me, to fill in the gaps he creates with his poor communication which in my experience just leads to disappointment. I think it's a lesson learned to very much keep the ball in his court- don't plan things on his behalf or assume he will take part in anything, particularly if he has a dynamic with his GF where he defers to her. You may actually be better off talking with her rather than him as ridiculous as that is!

dafttomtom · 22/08/2023 13:23

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 22/08/2023 13:18

My family don't live in a different country so I'm not sure if that is skewing things for me, but you seem very dramatic.

You've gone above and beyond for them but it sounds like they didn't ask you to do any of this. You even said they weren't really participating in planning things so I think you went a bit OTT.

You've built this up a lot in your head and now feel let down. I think it seems like a disproportionate response

I agree. This seems like a huge overreaction.

Planning themed evenings, enough booze to open a bar, doing the shopping a week in advance for a 4 day visit...could this have stressed them out?

As a visitor this would all make me feel a bit uncomfortable having so much pressure on a visit!

KeepingKeepingOn · 22/08/2023 13:23

I think it’s fair to express your disappointment at the way he’s handled this - late notice, lack of apology etc.

I don’t think it’s fair to hold him responsible for the amount of effort you’ve put in to getting ready for him - he / they didn’t ask for any of that (I presume), so you have chosen to do that. I can understand how disappointing it is, but you volunteered that much effort. Agree with PP, keep effort minimal next year and feel free to say why!

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:24

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 22/08/2023 13:18

My family don't live in a different country so I'm not sure if that is skewing things for me, but you seem very dramatic.

You've gone above and beyond for them but it sounds like they didn't ask you to do any of this. You even said they weren't really participating in planning things so I think you went a bit OTT.

You've built this up a lot in your head and now feel let down. I think it seems like a disproportionate response

Maybe I did go a bit OTT, but I just wanted to make sure they were feeling welcomed and cared for, considering it was their first time at our new place and new town (they hadn't visited us since 2019)

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:26

dafttomtom · 22/08/2023 13:23

I agree. This seems like a huge overreaction.

Planning themed evenings, enough booze to open a bar, doing the shopping a week in advance for a 4 day visit...could this have stressed them out?

As a visitor this would all make me feel a bit uncomfortable having so much pressure on a visit!

They had actually asked for some food items to be there for them, and on food they expressed clear preferences.

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LoobyDop · 22/08/2023 13:27

Windthebloodybobbinup · 22/08/2023 13:22

I completely understand and would have been gutted on your shoes. Your brother sounds very much like mine- poor communicator, not clear about what he wants, goes along with things then bails out at the last minute.
I think you might have a tendency, like me, to fill in the gaps he creates with his poor communication which in my experience just leads to disappointment. I think it's a lesson learned to very much keep the ball in his court- don't plan things on his behalf or assume he will take part in anything, particularly if he has a dynamic with his GF where he defers to her. You may actually be better off talking with her rather than him as ridiculous as that is!

Don’t talk to the girlfriend instead of him, it’s not the woman’s responsibility to take on managing his relationship with his family, no matter how badly organised, bad at communicating, selfish and inconsiderate he is.

ecuse · 22/08/2023 13:27

Oh, I'm really sorry, I totally get why you're disappointed. I would be too. He's your brother though not a stranger so I think you can just be upfront with him, and then get over it. "Oi, DB, I was really looking forward to seeing you, you twat!"

You sound like a really lovely sister going to all that trouble and he sounds like a classic thoughtless little brother.

But don't let it make you feel awkward or affect your relationship in the long run. You did all the extra stuff of your own accord (because you're a lovely big sister)

VeridicalVagabond · 22/08/2023 13:29

I think you've gone a bit overboard in preparing for their visit, it doesn't sound like they were anywhere near as enthusiastic about it as you nor that they asked or expected to be treated like minor royals. Tbh if I was going to visit someone and they were planning the whole itinerary for my trip and a themed menu and spending a fortune on food I'd feel a bit uncomfortable.

We have family overseas on both sides so I appreciate it's exciting when they come, but when my husband's brother and wife visit from Europe for instance we don't do anything extra except get the spare room nice and clean, and do a slightly bigger than usual shop in case they're wanting to eat at home. They rock up and pitch in like any family would, we figure out the "itinerary" as we go and it's much more chill. No pressure on either side, it's all about spending time together, not lavishing them with attention and food and pre-planned activities.

I just think the huge red carpet treatment you were planning for them was unnecessary and has lead to this being far more disappointing for you than it needed to be. Maybe try and be a bit more low key next year? Take the pressure off yourself, and them as guests!

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:31

LoobyDop · 22/08/2023 13:27

Don’t talk to the girlfriend instead of him, it’s not the woman’s responsibility to take on managing his relationship with his family, no matter how badly organised, bad at communicating, selfish and inconsiderate he is.

To be honest, they have very similar personalities and communication styles, I wouldn't extrapolate anything extra even if I talked to her. On his part, he's always been a bit uncommunicative, but I'd never thought he'd be this selfish.

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pasturesgreen · 22/08/2023 13:41

Sounds a bit overdramatic, yes, but you can't help how you feel. I'd definitely let brother know you're disappointed and you've been inconvenienced (I hope you can get a refund on the car rental, if not I'd ask brother to contribute tbh).

Easier said than done, I know, but perhaps try and keep it light and breezy for when they next visit: no big plans, no fancy menu planning beforehand...Fresh sheets in the guest room and that's it. Definitely no booking ahead of anything in case you're left out of pocket. If there's something they really care about doing, they can do their research and be proactive!

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:42

ecuse · 22/08/2023 13:27

Oh, I'm really sorry, I totally get why you're disappointed. I would be too. He's your brother though not a stranger so I think you can just be upfront with him, and then get over it. "Oi, DB, I was really looking forward to seeing you, you twat!"

You sound like a really lovely sister going to all that trouble and he sounds like a classic thoughtless little brother.

But don't let it make you feel awkward or affect your relationship in the long run. You did all the extra stuff of your own accord (because you're a lovely big sister)

Aww thanks for your kind words 😊.
No, I won't let it sour the relationship, hopefully in a couple of days I'll look back and think, yes, it was disappointing, but learn from this for next time, like some posters have said, not to put out so much, and do minimal planning.

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Tinkerbyebye · 22/08/2023 13:43

I would tell h8m face to face when you see him how rude he has been, and point out you know the real reason

i would say they are welcome to come next year but you are unavailable to host, they would need to find other accommodation but you will try to meet up with them

they had their chance, and have been incredibly rude

SallyWD · 22/08/2023 13:46

I would be gutted and it's very unfortunate you found out after putting so much time and effort in to organising everything. However, it's not the end of the world. They can come next year for longer. Alcohol lasts for years so you can save it until their visit. I'd just do something special with my husband instead.

ImNotReallySpartacus · 22/08/2023 13:49

He is inconsiderate but you are over-invested.

Helpmepleaseimbusy · 22/08/2023 13:50

Honestly I stopped reading 2 paragraphs in.

Not much you can do if he doesn't want to come. Perhaps have friends over for a few meals or freeze stuff so it doesn't go to waste.

If he wants to come again I suggest he stays in an air bnb nearby so you don't have to invest so much into it.

It's upsetting and annoying but it is what it is.

HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 13:53

Did they really say they were coming to "make memories with you" or was that you? Far too much pressure for a couple of days catch-up.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:57

HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 13:53

Did they really say they were coming to "make memories with you" or was that you? Far too much pressure for a couple of days catch-up.

They said that :/

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