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Disappointed and hurt by brother's behaviour

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:08

I'm a long-time reader on MN, but first time poster.
Brought myself to post here as I tried sleeping over it last night to see if I felt any better this morning, but it didn't work, I almost got no sleep, and I'm still feeling very wounded.
Basically, long story short, my husband and I had been looking forward for months now, to my little brother (29) and his girlfriend to come visit us. They would stop at our place from this coming Thursday, for the bank holiday weekend, and fly home on Tuesday.
All my family lives abroad, in my home country in Europe, and brother had planned and booked this trip since January. According to them, they had been looking forward to.
While over the course of the months I asked them, what are they interested in seeing, we can take you around etc etc, very little to no input at all was given, so I did lots of planning, found some nice sightseeing, booked transportation (brother offered to pay for car rental), planned for all the food, and last week I prepped the guest bedroom for them, washed all the sheets, started doing some big cleaning in the house, and got around £200 food shop in. I even went as far as planning evening by evening ‘theme’ nights in terms of food (very fundamental to hosting in my country haha). We don’t have guests often, and we really wanted them to have a great time.
Last Friday brother calls me up that he’s a bit pissed off that the airline moved their flight to London from early morning to later in the afternoon. I understand and can empathise with the fact he felt a bit ‘ripped off’, although it can happen with airlines these days. However, he still had 4 full days and 1/2 left that he could spend with us and explore around the South East.
He tried calling up the airline, but they wouldn’t offer compensation, as they still chose to fly out, just later on the same day.
On Saturday and Sunday we had two videocalls discussing the sightseeing etc, they still seemed very happy to come see us, although they now complained about the weather. I am from a country that is very warm in the Summer, I said, you guys know the weather in the UK is not as hot nor reliably warm in the Summer, but at least it’s not scalding, you won’t sweat, and we even got the rental car, if it rains at all we can always drive around more, go to castles/museums etc – I’m surprised the weather seemed that important now, considering they were mainly coming round to make memories with us, see our home (they hadn’t been before), and just spending time together – this is what they previously said.
Yesterday in the morning I spoke with my brother on how to get to and from the airport, what to do on the first couple of days etc. Around lunchtime he sends me a voice message saying that with the girlfriend they were considering getting a refund on the flight, and reschedule altogether for next year, but sister can you also cancel the car rental for us in the meantime? He was just on the phone line with the airline to see whether a full refund would be given if they didn’t fly. The airline confirmed they would, so brother followed up in the mid afternoon saying they cancelled. He said they were sorry not to come this time, but he’s already looking at next Spring/Summer, he asked, would that be a good time for us to host them?
I was speechless, and deeply hurt. I spoke with husband, he couldn’t believe it. All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in, and also we have a fully stocked fridge and freezer with lots of premium products we wouldn’t have otherwise got. It felt like a slap in the face, but the worst thing for me was that they didn’t apologise, not one word of apology.
All I could muster to say on the call with him was, wow that’s a bit last minute, we had been looking forward for so long, had got even your bedsheets all washed and ironed, all the food shop etc. I was literally joking the day before with him saying we got more drinks in for them than a bar. I said I was feeling very sorry they “had to change their plans”. Not much said from him, other than “ah, but we can visit you next year, it will be alright”.
My mom, who I had spoken with yesterday after this as well, was embarrassed and very disappointed by my brother’s and girlfriend’s behaviour, she called it ‘very selfish’. I agree with her, but wished I had said it in his face. Luckily my mom didn’t spare words when she spoke with him yesterday. At least he got a good telling-off from her.
Later in the evening, I called my mom up, and it comes out that my brother told her that the main reason why they cancelled was – that they could keep an extra couple of days for ‘themselves’ to roll over into 2024, so they could take a longer holiday overseas just the two of them. So, the flight being delayed was a ‘blessing’ for them. Which makes me question if they ever even cared to visit us in the first place.
Also, money was not an issue really – they had been on a few trips this year, this holiday would have cost them £500 in total for the two of them, so them getting all flustered about
I’m just feeling so deflated right now. Wounded and disappointed. Husband and I are flying home next month, and I feel sick at the prospect of seeing them two. I don’t even look forward to hosting them next year. I’m just feeling very low, rejected almost, like we weren't deserving of their time off.
AIBU for feeling this way?
I’m also disappointed with myself that I didn’t tell him to f* off tbh. Any suggestions, should I forgive and forget, or give them the benefit of the doubt and welcome them next year?

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cinnamonfrenchtoast · 22/08/2023 17:11

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:27

I completely understand why you feel hurt.

I think it is more the cavalier way he has treated you because a better offer came along that is the most hurtful.

Those posters being hurtful towards you don't get what it is like to live so far away from family. Ignore them.

How do you know that?

I live on the opposite side of the world to most of my family FWIW.

Yellowflower47 · 22/08/2023 17:13

Aw OP, I would be disappointed too. I don’t think you’ve done anything wrong. Your DB sounds like a man child tbh.

Genuinely astounded that some people wouldn’t be annoyed if they’d planned their weekend around visiting family who they only see once a year. If you had said you were planning on leaving an empty fridge, unclean bedding and were off out all weekend on your own with DH, leaving your guests to fend for themselves you’d be getting flamed. Seems like you can’t do anything right on here.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 22/08/2023 17:13

So he's used to being the spoilt son/brother who everyone falls over themselves to fuss over. No wonder he has behaves so selfishly! Time for him to realise the works doesn't revolve around him.

Next time make a point of saying "after last time I'm not going to go to any extra expense in advance of your trip."

LuckyPeonies · 22/08/2023 17:15

@LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine Your brother and his gf are inconsiderate, self-centered oafs. We host SIL and her husband once a year and I know how much prep, shopping, etc. that entails. I would be livid if they behaved like your brother & gf, and do only the absolute bare minimum from then on.

If you do decide to host them next year (personally, I wouldn’t) let them arrange for their own car rental and do their own food shop and entertainment. They don’t deserve for you to go out of your way.

LizzieW1969 · 22/08/2023 17:15

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 22/08/2023 17:13

So he's used to being the spoilt son/brother who everyone falls over themselves to fuss over. No wonder he has behaves so selfishly! Time for him to realise the works doesn't revolve around him.

Next time make a point of saying "after last time I'm not going to go to any extra expense in advance of your trip."

Yes I’m thinking that too.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 22/08/2023 17:16

Totally justified to be disappointed, you love your brother and wanted to see him so it is a bit disappointing. you are seeing him next month though.

As for the rest of it, why is your mum so involved? It's clear that your brother is completely spoiled, she's probably started doing his washing again already and he's the centre of attention once again.

I would not communicate over Whatsapp about this, but in person I might say- aw, I just missed seeing you, that's why. Don't lay on guilt over shopping/sheets as some of that stuff was a bit excessive and he does sound a bit spoiled by everyone.

WaltzingWaters · 22/08/2023 17:17

I don’t actually think you sound dramatic, I can understand how upsetting it is and how annoying it is after you spent so much on food and drink, for them to cancel last minute without a proper excuse is just rude and horrible.

If you host them next year tell them you won’t be going to any effort and they’ll eat whatever you’ve got in.

I hope you and your DH can have a lovely weekend eating and drinking lots and relaxing.

Mumbleer · 22/08/2023 17:18

YANBU at all, OP.

I was let down by a lot of people early in life (mainly Dad, who I haven't spoken to in about 20 years), and I tend to go OTT with cleaning, planning activities and getting in food/drink that I know my guests would like ahead of visits. Realised I do this to make sure I don't let anyone down. I'm definitely also a 'yes' woman and have never pulled out of any plans unless unavoidable.

So in this situation I would also feel similarly to you.

I also lived abroad and away from family for many years and would be crushed if any of them cancelled visits. I always saved annual leave to see them.

Maybe others don't feel the same but I think you've had some quite harsh responses on here. Don't think about it anymore. Best to speak to him in person when you see him if you are still bothered by it then. In the meantime, enjoy your bank holiday with lovely food and drink, and a nice clean house!

diddl · 22/08/2023 17:29

He sounds awful Op.

It sounds as if he is so used to being feted & fussed over that he just has no idea.

I suppose he must have some good points.

He sounds like someone I would tolerate rather than choose to see!

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 17:36

Mumbleer · 22/08/2023 17:18

YANBU at all, OP.

I was let down by a lot of people early in life (mainly Dad, who I haven't spoken to in about 20 years), and I tend to go OTT with cleaning, planning activities and getting in food/drink that I know my guests would like ahead of visits. Realised I do this to make sure I don't let anyone down. I'm definitely also a 'yes' woman and have never pulled out of any plans unless unavoidable.

So in this situation I would also feel similarly to you.

I also lived abroad and away from family for many years and would be crushed if any of them cancelled visits. I always saved annual leave to see them.

Maybe others don't feel the same but I think you've had some quite harsh responses on here. Don't think about it anymore. Best to speak to him in person when you see him if you are still bothered by it then. In the meantime, enjoy your bank holiday with lovely food and drink, and a nice clean house!

I was actually going to pop out for a walk when brother called me and asked how I was feeling, and that he didn't think what they did was a big deal.
I couldn't help burst out in tears (I'm normally very composed, and hated myself for doing this), I was overwhelmed, I did say, "do you have any idea what it's like to be the only one in the family who lives away from home, abroad, when you, brother, have all the family within a 10 minutes drive?", "We had planned a lot for you both, and APOLOGIES if I'm feeling very sad and disappointed atm", "I just wasn't expecting you would do this just because your flight got moved from morning to afternoon". I kept it civil, and I think my crying made him a little bit wobbly, and he must have felt sorry, I could sense it in his voice he wasn't so sure he did the right thing, but obviously too late to change anything. He didn't apologise though.
But at least we cleared a bit the air.

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Hibiscrubbed · 22/08/2023 17:46

Posters calling the OP ‘dramatic’, it’s clear she was just really excited to see and host her brother. That’s ok. And it’s shit he’s binned it all off with no notice. He’s 29, not 15, he should have known she’d have made preparations for their stay.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 22/08/2023 17:47

gamerchick · 22/08/2023 13:16

I probably wouldn't host next year. Tell them you're looking forward to it and you'll meet up with them for social stuff and send them links to local hotels.

Yes, I certainly wouldn't get special food and drink for them if you do decide to host next year.

Silvers11 · 22/08/2023 17:57

I was actually going to pop out for a walk when brother called me and asked how I was feeling, and that he didn't think what they did was a big deal.
I couldn't help burst out in tears (I'm normally very composed, and hated myself for doing this), I was overwhelmed, I did say, "do you have any idea what it's like to be the only one in the family who lives away from home, abroad, when you, brother, have all the family within a 10 minutes drive?", "We had planned a lot for you both, and APOLOGIES if I'm feeling very sad and disappointed atm", "I just wasn't expecting you would do this just because your flight got moved from morning to afternoon". I kept it civil, and I think my crying made him a little bit wobbly, and he must have felt sorry, I could sense it in his voice he wasn't so sure he did the right thing, but obviously too late to change anything. He didn't apologise though.
But at least we cleared a bit the air.

Aw! OP - well at least you told him how you feel. Sending hugs - and ignore the posters who are being nasty. They have no empathy at all

UnRavellingFast · 22/08/2023 17:59

I think they were rude. Yes you built it up but you’re his sis and you were being loving and caring. Also there’ll be cultural elements to your family relationships that we may not understand.

perhaps just say- hi bro, bit rude to cancel at late notice. Never mind, we’ll see you next year but we’ll leave you to do your own planning- lesson learned haha!

and other than clean bed clothes, do zero else- let them research their own outings and hopefully take you out to dinner or cook for you- or at least with you.

StaunchMomma · 22/08/2023 18:14

They took the piss and didn't even have the good grace to apologise for the last minute cancellation, knowing that you had prepped and spent out.

I think I'd be cordial but distant with them when you visit and if they mention coming next year then a breezy 'we're planning some alterations so won't be having visitors next year'.

They sound very selfish and self-centred.

ZorbaTheHoarder · 22/08/2023 18:26

I can't believe the so-and-so didn't apologise to you, even when he heard you crying, OP!

He's clearly not in the habit of taking responsibility for his actions.

It's good that you've told him how you felt, anyway.

Maybe he'll think twice next time about the impact of his decisions on other people - especially his sister!

chopc · 22/08/2023 18:46

I understand where you are coming from. I have gone off all people for this reason - they always end up disappointing you and make you feel like you had a completely different idea of your relationship to them

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 19:22

Silvers11 · 22/08/2023 17:57

I was actually going to pop out for a walk when brother called me and asked how I was feeling, and that he didn't think what they did was a big deal.
I couldn't help burst out in tears (I'm normally very composed, and hated myself for doing this), I was overwhelmed, I did say, "do you have any idea what it's like to be the only one in the family who lives away from home, abroad, when you, brother, have all the family within a 10 minutes drive?", "We had planned a lot for you both, and APOLOGIES if I'm feeling very sad and disappointed atm", "I just wasn't expecting you would do this just because your flight got moved from morning to afternoon". I kept it civil, and I think my crying made him a little bit wobbly, and he must have felt sorry, I could sense it in his voice he wasn't so sure he did the right thing, but obviously too late to change anything. He didn't apologise though.
But at least we cleared a bit the air.

Aw! OP - well at least you told him how you feel. Sending hugs - and ignore the posters who are being nasty. They have no empathy at all

Aw thanks! 🤗

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 19:25

StaunchMomma · 22/08/2023 18:14

They took the piss and didn't even have the good grace to apologise for the last minute cancellation, knowing that you had prepped and spent out.

I think I'd be cordial but distant with them when you visit and if they mention coming next year then a breezy 'we're planning some alterations so won't be having visitors next year'.

They sound very selfish and self-centred.

Funnily enough we are planning some alterations lol.

I hope the phone call earlier shook him a bit, at least in realising he actually hurt me. He's always so light about anything, so that must have come as a shock that his actions had some 'impact' on someone 😐. Hopefully he'll be more considerate in the future.

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 19:33

ZorbaTheHoarder · 22/08/2023 18:26

I can't believe the so-and-so didn't apologise to you, even when he heard you crying, OP!

He's clearly not in the habit of taking responsibility for his actions.

It's good that you've told him how you felt, anyway.

Maybe he'll think twice next time about the impact of his decisions on other people - especially his sister!

He never has unfortunately, normally he just laughs it off and minimises any problems.

But definitely, I'm feeling happy about the chat, I wished I didn't cry, but couldn't help it. Although I think the crying actually really helped as it showed how genuinely hurt I was. He'll think twice for sure next time and not pull something like this ever again.

I wonder how much all of this was his full undoing, or the part the GF played in this. She was never too enthusiastic about coming to the UK and always joked about how 'shitty' the country was in the previous years, so I wouldn't be surprised if this sudden change of heart came from her and she convinced him. But obviously my brother needs to take responsibility here, doesn't matter who had the pivotal role, they took the decision together at the end of the day.

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GardeningIdiot · 22/08/2023 19:37

Hopefully he'll be more considerate in the future.

I wouldn't be too hopeful. He still didn't even apologise to you - his choice not to take responsibility for his own actions sounds very baked in.

Olika · 22/08/2023 20:08

For me there has been too much of planning and organising and getting ready well in advance. All my family members live back at home and whenever they fly over to visit I never go to these extremes.

StaunchMomma · 22/08/2023 20:24

@Seaweed42

Oopsie!! Someone outed themselves! 😂

Best get cooking and doing your own laundry hun, rather than arguing on here - sounds like it's going to be a shock to the system to actually be an adult!

7eleven · 22/08/2023 20:27

Olika · 22/08/2023 20:08

For me there has been too much of planning and organising and getting ready well in advance. All my family members live back at home and whenever they fly over to visit I never go to these extremes.

Great for you. The OP obviously likes her guests to feel welcome and special.

girlfriend44 · 22/08/2023 21:33

Your heart was in the right place and brother dosent deserve you as a sister.

Learn to not believe things until they happen though so many people say things and don't do them. It's actions, not words that count.

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