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Disappointed and hurt by brother's behaviour

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:08

I'm a long-time reader on MN, but first time poster.
Brought myself to post here as I tried sleeping over it last night to see if I felt any better this morning, but it didn't work, I almost got no sleep, and I'm still feeling very wounded.
Basically, long story short, my husband and I had been looking forward for months now, to my little brother (29) and his girlfriend to come visit us. They would stop at our place from this coming Thursday, for the bank holiday weekend, and fly home on Tuesday.
All my family lives abroad, in my home country in Europe, and brother had planned and booked this trip since January. According to them, they had been looking forward to.
While over the course of the months I asked them, what are they interested in seeing, we can take you around etc etc, very little to no input at all was given, so I did lots of planning, found some nice sightseeing, booked transportation (brother offered to pay for car rental), planned for all the food, and last week I prepped the guest bedroom for them, washed all the sheets, started doing some big cleaning in the house, and got around £200 food shop in. I even went as far as planning evening by evening ‘theme’ nights in terms of food (very fundamental to hosting in my country haha). We don’t have guests often, and we really wanted them to have a great time.
Last Friday brother calls me up that he’s a bit pissed off that the airline moved their flight to London from early morning to later in the afternoon. I understand and can empathise with the fact he felt a bit ‘ripped off’, although it can happen with airlines these days. However, he still had 4 full days and 1/2 left that he could spend with us and explore around the South East.
He tried calling up the airline, but they wouldn’t offer compensation, as they still chose to fly out, just later on the same day.
On Saturday and Sunday we had two videocalls discussing the sightseeing etc, they still seemed very happy to come see us, although they now complained about the weather. I am from a country that is very warm in the Summer, I said, you guys know the weather in the UK is not as hot nor reliably warm in the Summer, but at least it’s not scalding, you won’t sweat, and we even got the rental car, if it rains at all we can always drive around more, go to castles/museums etc – I’m surprised the weather seemed that important now, considering they were mainly coming round to make memories with us, see our home (they hadn’t been before), and just spending time together – this is what they previously said.
Yesterday in the morning I spoke with my brother on how to get to and from the airport, what to do on the first couple of days etc. Around lunchtime he sends me a voice message saying that with the girlfriend they were considering getting a refund on the flight, and reschedule altogether for next year, but sister can you also cancel the car rental for us in the meantime? He was just on the phone line with the airline to see whether a full refund would be given if they didn’t fly. The airline confirmed they would, so brother followed up in the mid afternoon saying they cancelled. He said they were sorry not to come this time, but he’s already looking at next Spring/Summer, he asked, would that be a good time for us to host them?
I was speechless, and deeply hurt. I spoke with husband, he couldn’t believe it. All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in, and also we have a fully stocked fridge and freezer with lots of premium products we wouldn’t have otherwise got. It felt like a slap in the face, but the worst thing for me was that they didn’t apologise, not one word of apology.
All I could muster to say on the call with him was, wow that’s a bit last minute, we had been looking forward for so long, had got even your bedsheets all washed and ironed, all the food shop etc. I was literally joking the day before with him saying we got more drinks in for them than a bar. I said I was feeling very sorry they “had to change their plans”. Not much said from him, other than “ah, but we can visit you next year, it will be alright”.
My mom, who I had spoken with yesterday after this as well, was embarrassed and very disappointed by my brother’s and girlfriend’s behaviour, she called it ‘very selfish’. I agree with her, but wished I had said it in his face. Luckily my mom didn’t spare words when she spoke with him yesterday. At least he got a good telling-off from her.
Later in the evening, I called my mom up, and it comes out that my brother told her that the main reason why they cancelled was – that they could keep an extra couple of days for ‘themselves’ to roll over into 2024, so they could take a longer holiday overseas just the two of them. So, the flight being delayed was a ‘blessing’ for them. Which makes me question if they ever even cared to visit us in the first place.
Also, money was not an issue really – they had been on a few trips this year, this holiday would have cost them £500 in total for the two of them, so them getting all flustered about
I’m just feeling so deflated right now. Wounded and disappointed. Husband and I are flying home next month, and I feel sick at the prospect of seeing them two. I don’t even look forward to hosting them next year. I’m just feeling very low, rejected almost, like we weren't deserving of their time off.
AIBU for feeling this way?
I’m also disappointed with myself that I didn’t tell him to f* off tbh. Any suggestions, should I forgive and forget, or give them the benefit of the doubt and welcome them next year?

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:12

ABeesWings · 22/08/2023 15:46

Are you the brothers girlfriend?
I don’t remember reading in the OP ‘he hates people making a fuss. He always has done’
How do you know how the brother feels? . . . .

I was wondering exactly the same thing lol. Are you my brother's girlfriend?
Plus, I've never said that my brother ‘hates people making a fuss. He always has done’.
If you want to know it, he's used to going to my mom's to drop both their dirty laundry off every week, so they don't have to do a thing.
My mom has been given a hard wake up by his behaviour with me, and made her reconsider how ungrateful he's been to her over the years, as to how she put out for him and now he's saying that she's overreacting, and she should go into an institution and get therapy. The mother that cooked and cleaned for him until yesterday.

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Honitonhorses875 · 22/08/2023 16:14

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:33

Were you one of the mean girls at school as well? Hmm

I don’t think this is remotely mean! Seaweed42 was being helpful and offering a different perspective to the op that’s all. Different doesn’t necessarily mean wrong.

Op’s brother was thoughtless and should have apologised and I would have been cross for the change to my schedule (too busy to waste a long weekend) but apart from that, I do think op’s hurt is commensurate with the level of prep she put in!

Op, great to read your update. Glad this thread has given you perspective. Hope the next occasion goes better and enjoy your “guest ready” home this weekend!

DuckDuckNo · 22/08/2023 16:15

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 16:09

It’s a lack of the basic ability to empathize, to see things from another’s perspective.

Which is clearly lacking in some of the posters on this thread as well Sad

Quite.

OP, I'm sorry. I've also been the family member abroad and I know first hand how hurtful this is. Your brother is taking you for granted and being selfish.

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 16:15

Goodness, your brother sounds a piece of work doesn't he @LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine
Who will do your brother's laundry if your mum goes into an institution? Although, more fool her for doing his laundry in the first place.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:16

Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 15:45

I live in a different country to my family

You have over-invested in this trip. They were coming to see you. Their flight ended up rubbish so it would be a rushed trip and it is a blessing if they can have additional holiday next year

No-one asked you to go to so much trouble, didn't you think they would prefer to eat out and eat local foods? They are on holiday. They don't want to stay in and eat? I wouldn't anyway

You made it all about you

You sound way too high maintenance.
When I have guests I get food in for the first night so we can catch up.
I don't plan anything for them , it's their holiday they can relax or go on trips but they can decide that when they're here.

You are right to feel disappointed but the rest is on you I'm afraid

They do not eat out much. They are very fussy eaters - hence their requests for me to get some special foods in for them etc.

If anything, I think they're the high maintenance ones to be honest, they had even joked about the bed arrangement, that the double bed we had prepared for them was a bit too small for them, but they would adapt. Thanks!🙄

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HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 16:17

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:12

I was wondering exactly the same thing lol. Are you my brother's girlfriend?
Plus, I've never said that my brother ‘hates people making a fuss. He always has done’.
If you want to know it, he's used to going to my mom's to drop both their dirty laundry off every week, so they don't have to do a thing.
My mom has been given a hard wake up by his behaviour with me, and made her reconsider how ungrateful he's been to her over the years, as to how she put out for him and now he's saying that she's overreacting, and she should go into an institution and get therapy. The mother that cooked and cleaned for him until yesterday.

now he's saying that she's overreacting, and she should go into an institution and get therapy
Well, this has escalated fast... 🤔. He said this since your first post?

HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 16:17

the double bed we had prepared for them was a bit too small for them, but they would adapt. Thanks!🙄
How do they know what the bed looks like??

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:20

HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 16:17

now he's saying that she's overreacting, and she should go into an institution and get therapy
Well, this has escalated fast... 🤔. He said this since your first post?

Yes, he said that to my mom after she responded to his callous message in the whatsapp family chat saying that she didn't excuse their behaviour, and that they shouldn't come round for their laundry or for food anymore 😅. Rightly so, though, I've been telling her for years to stop doing everything for them like that. She said she doesn't want to see their faces for the next couple of months either.

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:23

HarrietJet · 22/08/2023 16:17

the double bed we had prepared for them was a bit too small for them, but they would adapt. Thanks!🙄
How do they know what the bed looks like??

Simply when the room was ready and cleaned, we sent a photo to them and text saying, your bed is all ready, just a few days to go until your stay.
My mom always does this with us before we go round, sort of saying, can't wait to have you as guests etc, it's just a nice thing.

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favouriteyellowsocks · 22/08/2023 16:24

Yes OP, I'd be absolutely fuming / really upset by this. I hate being let down, it's part of my anxiety, so I understand how gutted you are.
I'd tell him to fuck himself, for the time being! Selfish prick

rainbowstardrops · 22/08/2023 16:32

GardeningIdiot · 22/08/2023 15:51

I'd reply to that WhatsApp saying something simple and straightforward along the lines of "An apology would be welcome. We had done a lot of preparation and were looking forward to your visit."

Then you can move on. I wouldn't just brush it under the carpet until you've said that as you're more likely to continue to feel resentful and you haven't been honest with him. It's all been left to your mum so far.

I would do this too. He's been bloody thoughtless and the least he could offer would be an apology.

Rheia1983 · 22/08/2023 16:33

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:23

Simply when the room was ready and cleaned, we sent a photo to them and text saying, your bed is all ready, just a few days to go until your stay.
My mom always does this with us before we go round, sort of saying, can't wait to have you as guests etc, it's just a nice thing.

Your brother sounds charming....not😐

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:38

GardeningIdiot · 22/08/2023 15:51

I'd reply to that WhatsApp saying something simple and straightforward along the lines of "An apology would be welcome. We had done a lot of preparation and were looking forward to your visit."

Then you can move on. I wouldn't just brush it under the carpet until you've said that as you're more likely to continue to feel resentful and you haven't been honest with him. It's all been left to your mum so far.

I did respond, simply saying DH and I felt very disappointed and sad, all the preparations etc and such short notice. Was hoping the apology would come from him and be genuine, rather than have to force one out of him. I can't do that.

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WickedSerious · 22/08/2023 16:39

I have a relative who's done this nine times in the last fifteen months,I don't even bother to change the bedding any more.

Frabbits · 22/08/2023 16:40

I mean, it's shit that he cancelled but it sounds like you've gone way, way overboard for a few days visit.

And your mum telling him off is just downright embarrassing. You are all presumably adults, you should be well past telling on your brother to mummy.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:41

WickedSerious · 22/08/2023 16:39

I have a relative who's done this nine times in the last fifteen months,I don't even bother to change the bedding any more.

That is SO awful 😥.

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Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 16:43

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:58

Do you always ride roughshod over people as well?

Why would you think I would?

Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 16:44

Frabbits · 22/08/2023 16:40

I mean, it's shit that he cancelled but it sounds like you've gone way, way overboard for a few days visit.

And your mum telling him off is just downright embarrassing. You are all presumably adults, you should be well past telling on your brother to mummy.

Definitely this

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:46

Frabbits · 22/08/2023 16:40

I mean, it's shit that he cancelled but it sounds like you've gone way, way overboard for a few days visit.

And your mum telling him off is just downright embarrassing. You are all presumably adults, you should be well past telling on your brother to mummy.

Well, he was actually at my mom's to eat her homemade lunch when he called me up the first time yesterday lunch and said he was 'revaluating' the flight.
Hence all was in the open. I wasn't a spy or anything.

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BeenThereDoneThat101 · 22/08/2023 16:46

OP, even if you had gone to too much effort it was still rude of him to cancel at the last minute.

But TBH I am noticing more and more how unreliable people are becoming. I’ve lost count of the number of people who say they’d like to get together but when it comes to the crunch they just don’t respond to communication.

I’m off work this week with DP and a mutual acquaintance messaged DP about something else and said that he would be in the area and did we want to get together today. DP agreed, emailed him over the weekend to see when and where and he just hasn’t bothered responding.

Equally DP’s brother made this big deal about how we should go and stay with him after DP spent a weekend there recently and how he absolutely should come back but bring me next time (I had to work that weekend) and now he’s busy for the foreseeable.

And so it continues, and it’s not just me. I know so many people who have become fed up of being the only one to make the effort.

I think that people are just becoming more selfish overall.

rollonretirementfgs · 22/08/2023 16:51

Do you think maybe your brother wasn't expecting you to make such an effort? So when he cancelled he didn't think it would be such a big deal to you? I'd feel very disappointed too, but some people just aren't as thoughtful as you clearly are.
Have a lovely time with hubby eating all the food and doing your sightseeing.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:52

BeenThereDoneThat101 · 22/08/2023 16:46

OP, even if you had gone to too much effort it was still rude of him to cancel at the last minute.

But TBH I am noticing more and more how unreliable people are becoming. I’ve lost count of the number of people who say they’d like to get together but when it comes to the crunch they just don’t respond to communication.

I’m off work this week with DP and a mutual acquaintance messaged DP about something else and said that he would be in the area and did we want to get together today. DP agreed, emailed him over the weekend to see when and where and he just hasn’t bothered responding.

Equally DP’s brother made this big deal about how we should go and stay with him after DP spent a weekend there recently and how he absolutely should come back but bring me next time (I had to work that weekend) and now he’s busy for the foreseeable.

And so it continues, and it’s not just me. I know so many people who have become fed up of being the only one to make the effort.

I think that people are just becoming more selfish overall.

That is true, and we did have a couple of similar episodes with some 'flaky' friends (over missed days out together, and them cancelling last minute), however I wouldn't have expected my own brother to do that to me.
I don't know, it just feels a bit different with family, friends can come and go and we pick our friendships, but we don't pick family.

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willWillSmithsmith · 22/08/2023 16:57

See them next year but don’t put the effort in you did this year.

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 16:58

rollonretirementfgs · 22/08/2023 16:51

Do you think maybe your brother wasn't expecting you to make such an effort? So when he cancelled he didn't think it would be such a big deal to you? I'd feel very disappointed too, but some people just aren't as thoughtful as you clearly are.
Have a lovely time with hubby eating all the food and doing your sightseeing.

I think they both were tbh. They are used to being spoilt in my home country by both sets of parents (well, just probably the one set from now on as my mom is now dead set to not go out of her way again for them), so they definitely expected something on a similar level here. I don't know for sure, though, but based on the 29 years of knowing him, I think it's a close guess.
Ah thanks😊

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Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 16:58

rollonretirementfgs · 22/08/2023 16:51

Do you think maybe your brother wasn't expecting you to make such an effort? So when he cancelled he didn't think it would be such a big deal to you? I'd feel very disappointed too, but some people just aren't as thoughtful as you clearly are.
Have a lovely time with hubby eating all the food and doing your sightseeing.

This is exactly what I think. His plans changed. He didn't think it would make such an impact on the op

The op clearly overinvested in it. All the planning and prep was ott and not something I would expect anyone to do doe me and I wouldn't do it for other visitors.

I would just have got food in for thwor arrival and taken it from there depending on what they fancied doing