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Disappointed and hurt by brother's behaviour

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LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:08

I'm a long-time reader on MN, but first time poster.
Brought myself to post here as I tried sleeping over it last night to see if I felt any better this morning, but it didn't work, I almost got no sleep, and I'm still feeling very wounded.
Basically, long story short, my husband and I had been looking forward for months now, to my little brother (29) and his girlfriend to come visit us. They would stop at our place from this coming Thursday, for the bank holiday weekend, and fly home on Tuesday.
All my family lives abroad, in my home country in Europe, and brother had planned and booked this trip since January. According to them, they had been looking forward to.
While over the course of the months I asked them, what are they interested in seeing, we can take you around etc etc, very little to no input at all was given, so I did lots of planning, found some nice sightseeing, booked transportation (brother offered to pay for car rental), planned for all the food, and last week I prepped the guest bedroom for them, washed all the sheets, started doing some big cleaning in the house, and got around £200 food shop in. I even went as far as planning evening by evening ‘theme’ nights in terms of food (very fundamental to hosting in my country haha). We don’t have guests often, and we really wanted them to have a great time.
Last Friday brother calls me up that he’s a bit pissed off that the airline moved their flight to London from early morning to later in the afternoon. I understand and can empathise with the fact he felt a bit ‘ripped off’, although it can happen with airlines these days. However, he still had 4 full days and 1/2 left that he could spend with us and explore around the South East.
He tried calling up the airline, but they wouldn’t offer compensation, as they still chose to fly out, just later on the same day.
On Saturday and Sunday we had two videocalls discussing the sightseeing etc, they still seemed very happy to come see us, although they now complained about the weather. I am from a country that is very warm in the Summer, I said, you guys know the weather in the UK is not as hot nor reliably warm in the Summer, but at least it’s not scalding, you won’t sweat, and we even got the rental car, if it rains at all we can always drive around more, go to castles/museums etc – I’m surprised the weather seemed that important now, considering they were mainly coming round to make memories with us, see our home (they hadn’t been before), and just spending time together – this is what they previously said.
Yesterday in the morning I spoke with my brother on how to get to and from the airport, what to do on the first couple of days etc. Around lunchtime he sends me a voice message saying that with the girlfriend they were considering getting a refund on the flight, and reschedule altogether for next year, but sister can you also cancel the car rental for us in the meantime? He was just on the phone line with the airline to see whether a full refund would be given if they didn’t fly. The airline confirmed they would, so brother followed up in the mid afternoon saying they cancelled. He said they were sorry not to come this time, but he’s already looking at next Spring/Summer, he asked, would that be a good time for us to host them?
I was speechless, and deeply hurt. I spoke with husband, he couldn’t believe it. All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in, and also we have a fully stocked fridge and freezer with lots of premium products we wouldn’t have otherwise got. It felt like a slap in the face, but the worst thing for me was that they didn’t apologise, not one word of apology.
All I could muster to say on the call with him was, wow that’s a bit last minute, we had been looking forward for so long, had got even your bedsheets all washed and ironed, all the food shop etc. I was literally joking the day before with him saying we got more drinks in for them than a bar. I said I was feeling very sorry they “had to change their plans”. Not much said from him, other than “ah, but we can visit you next year, it will be alright”.
My mom, who I had spoken with yesterday after this as well, was embarrassed and very disappointed by my brother’s and girlfriend’s behaviour, she called it ‘very selfish’. I agree with her, but wished I had said it in his face. Luckily my mom didn’t spare words when she spoke with him yesterday. At least he got a good telling-off from her.
Later in the evening, I called my mom up, and it comes out that my brother told her that the main reason why they cancelled was – that they could keep an extra couple of days for ‘themselves’ to roll over into 2024, so they could take a longer holiday overseas just the two of them. So, the flight being delayed was a ‘blessing’ for them. Which makes me question if they ever even cared to visit us in the first place.
Also, money was not an issue really – they had been on a few trips this year, this holiday would have cost them £500 in total for the two of them, so them getting all flustered about
I’m just feeling so deflated right now. Wounded and disappointed. Husband and I are flying home next month, and I feel sick at the prospect of seeing them two. I don’t even look forward to hosting them next year. I’m just feeling very low, rejected almost, like we weren't deserving of their time off.
AIBU for feeling this way?
I’m also disappointed with myself that I didn’t tell him to f* off tbh. Any suggestions, should I forgive and forget, or give them the benefit of the doubt and welcome them next year?

OP posts:
LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 15:11

ittakes2 · 22/08/2023 15:07

I live abroad from my family so I understand how you feel but realistically they are seeing you next month so I am surprised they were coming up be honest.

Next month we'll only see them on one evening in the week, they will be working all the week that we're there. Knowing they were supposed to come and see us and spend time with us, they didn't plan any time off for when we're round. We're mainly going to see my parents and grandma.

OP posts:
LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 15:14

7eleven · 22/08/2023 15:10

I think he’s jolly lucky to have such a brilliant sister.

Thanks, you're very kind 🤗

OP posts:
GingerIsBest · 22/08/2023 15:17

I think you are DEFINITELY NOT being unreasonable and you're not being dramatic either - that's just your writing style. You could have just said, "we've been looking forward to my brother's visit since January, planned some activities, shopped for food and lots of drink, organised a car hire and got a room ready. But now he's decided not to come with just two days notice and I'm upset."

Your brother is, in my opinion, being a complete and utter dick. And I'd be hurt and upset too. What he's saying is that spending time with you is not that important to him and he'll happily ditch you for something else, even when you've gone out of your way. You can, of course, put less effort in next time but I know from experience (both my brother and Dh's brother) that you will not be able to forget his callousness and it will impact how you feel about this going forward.

On plus side, he did at least tell you. Dh's brother, on one memorable occasion, visiting us for the first time ever from much further away... just didn't bother to mention that he wasn't coming at all until DH mentioned to MIL that he needed to talk to BIL about flight times etc to arrange to collect him.... MIL was (bless her) horrified to discover that BIL hadn't bothered to even tell us when his trip was cancelled.

NarcNarc · 22/08/2023 15:17

I’m not surprised you feel hurt by such cavalier behaviour. I would be too. Next time they plan to visit I’d take it with a pinch of salt and not prepare a thing. They can book into a hotel, sightsee if they want and perhaps you could take them out for a meal, unless they’d rather eat à deux at all times 🙄

GingerIsBest · 22/08/2023 15:19

Also, it's completely unacceptable that he hasn't apologised. And I'm surprised so many posters are so blasé about that? I mean just common courtesy is that if you let someone down when you have plans you should apologise. I apologised last week when I had to cancel going with a friend to a bloody yoga class at short notice.

truthhurts23 · 22/08/2023 15:24

lesson learned never pull out all the stops for them again , they don't deserve it

Brefugee · 22/08/2023 15:24

that's a lot of money effort and so on gone into your plans.
In your shoes? I would tell him that. Tell him how disappointed you are, that you know about how he considers the airline refund a blessing and that while he is welcome to visit you any time, he is not going to be staying at your house.

GerbilTrainerExtraordinaire2 · 22/08/2023 15:25

Nothing is wasted, it can all be used

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:27

I completely understand why you feel hurt.

I think it is more the cavalier way he has treated you because a better offer came along that is the most hurtful.

Those posters being hurtful towards you don't get what it is like to live so far away from family. Ignore them.

Lilithlogic · 22/08/2023 15:28

Even if he is too shortsighted to understand he has done something wrong, he could at least account for the fact you are hurt and upset by his actions and apologise anyway. Hope you are OK, disappointment is so awful.

Seaweed42 · 22/08/2023 15:29

"All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in."

All of the above was YOUR choice to do that.
Nobody asked you to do any of that nor made you do it.
I really really do not get how he is being 'selfish'.

You created a lavish and complex scenario in your head around this trip.

Your brother thought it was a casual holiday to visit his sister.
That it might involve some clean sheets on the spare bed (but he'd say don't go to any trouble don't bother to hoover it'll be fine type of thing).

Because he hates people making a fuss. He always has done.

He didn't ask nor expect you to lie awake for nights dreaming up trips and activities.

He hasn't done anything wrong and he has nothing to apologise for.
He just changed his plans.

He didn't ask you to 'put yourself out' for him.

You can be as frosty as you like with your brother, but he won't have a notion what's wrong with you.

He'll just think there's Sis with a face on her, no idea why that is...

GingerIsBest · 22/08/2023 15:31

why on earth is changing plans that involve FOUR days, something that doesn't require "apologising". Because I might not make a huge effort for someone like the OP has, but if I had a friend or family member planning to stay for 4 days and they pulled out 2 days before without even an apology, I'd consider that the height of rudeness.

MarshaArt · 22/08/2023 15:32

dafttomtom · 22/08/2023 13:23

I agree. This seems like a huge overreaction.

Planning themed evenings, enough booze to open a bar, doing the shopping a week in advance for a 4 day visit...could this have stressed them out?

As a visitor this would all make me feel a bit uncomfortable having so much pressure on a visit!

This, I’d rather have space to do our own thing and see you for a bit each day. They’re young too right?

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:33

Seaweed42 · 22/08/2023 15:29

"All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in."

All of the above was YOUR choice to do that.
Nobody asked you to do any of that nor made you do it.
I really really do not get how he is being 'selfish'.

You created a lavish and complex scenario in your head around this trip.

Your brother thought it was a casual holiday to visit his sister.
That it might involve some clean sheets on the spare bed (but he'd say don't go to any trouble don't bother to hoover it'll be fine type of thing).

Because he hates people making a fuss. He always has done.

He didn't ask nor expect you to lie awake for nights dreaming up trips and activities.

He hasn't done anything wrong and he has nothing to apologise for.
He just changed his plans.

He didn't ask you to 'put yourself out' for him.

You can be as frosty as you like with your brother, but he won't have a notion what's wrong with you.

He'll just think there's Sis with a face on her, no idea why that is...

Were you one of the mean girls at school as well? Hmm

MNetcurtains · 22/08/2023 15:36

LifeIsBeautifulRainOrShine · 22/08/2023 13:26

They had actually asked for some food items to be there for them, and on food they expressed clear preferences.

I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. I completely understand how disappointed you feel, considering the trouble you went to.

Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 15:45

I live in a different country to my family

You have over-invested in this trip. They were coming to see you. Their flight ended up rubbish so it would be a rushed trip and it is a blessing if they can have additional holiday next year

No-one asked you to go to so much trouble, didn't you think they would prefer to eat out and eat local foods? They are on holiday. They don't want to stay in and eat? I wouldn't anyway

You made it all about you

You sound way too high maintenance.
When I have guests I get food in for the first night so we can catch up.
I don't plan anything for them , it's their holiday they can relax or go on trips but they can decide that when they're here.

You are right to feel disappointed but the rest is on you I'm afraid

ABeesWings · 22/08/2023 15:46

Seaweed42 · 22/08/2023 15:29

"All the effort invested, emotional, mental energies put in."

All of the above was YOUR choice to do that.
Nobody asked you to do any of that nor made you do it.
I really really do not get how he is being 'selfish'.

You created a lavish and complex scenario in your head around this trip.

Your brother thought it was a casual holiday to visit his sister.
That it might involve some clean sheets on the spare bed (but he'd say don't go to any trouble don't bother to hoover it'll be fine type of thing).

Because he hates people making a fuss. He always has done.

He didn't ask nor expect you to lie awake for nights dreaming up trips and activities.

He hasn't done anything wrong and he has nothing to apologise for.
He just changed his plans.

He didn't ask you to 'put yourself out' for him.

You can be as frosty as you like with your brother, but he won't have a notion what's wrong with you.

He'll just think there's Sis with a face on her, no idea why that is...

Are you the brothers girlfriend?
I don’t remember reading in the OP ‘he hates people making a fuss. He always has done’
How do you know how the brother feels? . . . .

GardeningIdiot · 22/08/2023 15:51

I'd reply to that WhatsApp saying something simple and straightforward along the lines of "An apology would be welcome. We had done a lot of preparation and were looking forward to your visit."

Then you can move on. I wouldn't just brush it under the carpet until you've said that as you're more likely to continue to feel resentful and you haven't been honest with him. It's all been left to your mum so far.

Bandyarsia · 22/08/2023 15:54

I can understand how you feel, I think it is lousy to be honest. You were upfront with the plans form day 1 and he let you go ahead with them and then cancel at last min. No fuck that.

becksbeer123 · 22/08/2023 15:57

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ActDottie · 22/08/2023 15:58

sounds like something my brother would do and he’s the most selfish person I know. He cancelled a Christmas Eve cheese and wine evening a few hours before because he had a better offer to go out with friends… I’d bought enough cheese for all of us etc. so it was instead me, my husband and parents with six persons worse of cheese and wine.

Ive found the best way to cope with my selfish brother is to just never expect anything from him and if he agrees to something to not take it as gospel because he is unreliable and basically does what he wants. It’s the only method I’ve found that works. We obviously aren’t that close because of this but to him family isn’t that high up the list.

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 15:58

Maddy70 · 22/08/2023 15:45

I live in a different country to my family

You have over-invested in this trip. They were coming to see you. Their flight ended up rubbish so it would be a rushed trip and it is a blessing if they can have additional holiday next year

No-one asked you to go to so much trouble, didn't you think they would prefer to eat out and eat local foods? They are on holiday. They don't want to stay in and eat? I wouldn't anyway

You made it all about you

You sound way too high maintenance.
When I have guests I get food in for the first night so we can catch up.
I don't plan anything for them , it's their holiday they can relax or go on trips but they can decide that when they're here.

You are right to feel disappointed but the rest is on you I'm afraid

Do you always ride roughshod over people as well?

becksbeer123 · 22/08/2023 15:59

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MysteryBelle · 22/08/2023 16:07

They’re both selfish and immature, Op, that is obvious from their complete lack of perception and thoughtfulness. I’d put zero effort into the relationship with them from now on, that’s what they’ve done. Sometimes you have to boomerang a bit of their own behavior back at people like that or they’ll never realize. It’s a lack of the basic ability to empathize, to see things from another’s perspective.

You know what’s important in life, Op, and hopefully your brother will someday. Good for your mother taking up for you!

RampantIvy · 22/08/2023 16:09

It’s a lack of the basic ability to empathize, to see things from another’s perspective.

Which is clearly lacking in some of the posters on this thread as well Sad