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husband reaction to family staying over

126 replies

Ippagoggy · 20/08/2023 22:53

Some context: my father and his wife (my mum passed away long ago) have come to visit. They are in their 70s and have retired in South America. They love to see their grandchildren (my children, ages 7 and 3). However, given the long flights (10+ hours) and the fact that we can’t fly very often, we are limited to visits once every year or two.

My father is staying for 3 weeks this time. We have a big enough house (garden and separate guest room with en-suite) so it’s not an issue of space. But my husband is pissed off.

to be fair, I also think 3 weeks is excessive and I’m a little annoyed my dad booked such a long trip — I even told him over the phone to keep it to 1-2 weeks but he ignored me. I feel like 10 days would have been sufficient as a compromise.

my dad is also from a generation where he doesn’t really know / believe he has to help much around the home. Whereas my husband is very progressive and believes men and women should approach housework 50/50. This has led to a lot of passive aggressive comments and snide remarks from my husband to my dad.

while I understand my husband, I also feel that at 70 my dad isn’t going to change and as he’s here for only a while every 1-2 years we could just live with it for the benefit of the kids having some kind of relationship with their grandparents. I want him to get to know my kids and it’s nice to see him after all this time even with all his faults.

my husband is fed up — even though I am the one who takes on the burden of housework and feeding and managing the extra people. and I’ve even told my husband to take advantage of this time to work late these days (something he doesn’t get to do often but wants to).

anyway, I’m now almost in tears because my husband has blown up at me at how this situation is unacceptable. Like I said I understand his feelings but he’s really not said it in a nice way : he is being aggressive and shouty. And saying nasty things about how dysfunctional my family is and how he wishes he had never met me. He’s really really worked about it.

I’m also annoyed at my dad for not being more thoughtful and seeing how much work this creates for me to look after so many people (not just my kids but him
and his wife). But my dad has always been like this — he’s not a bad man but quite entitled. That said he would drop everything if I or the grandkids were to need his help.

but most of all I’m annoyed at myself for not having been more assertive about my boundaries with my dad.

so open ended question :

  1. who is being unreasonable?
  2. how do I salvage this mess? (Please constructive comments only, I know I am to blame for this and in future I need to be very firm about boundaries).
OP posts:
Domino20 · 20/08/2023 22:56

Your husband is being an arse, it's 3 weeks every 2yrs ffs, hardly a regular occurrence.

Isthisexpected · 20/08/2023 22:58

I haven't voted because I'm unsure what the option is for my opinion that your husband is being unreasonable in wanting to limit your father's visit. Your father is very unlikely to see your kids grow up in person ie he may live but not feel able to fly long haul for much longer.

I'd try to compromise though and if you can't make your father contribute to tidying up maybe you can be more direct about how much mess he makes?

girlwhowearsglasses · 20/08/2023 23:01

How much time is left?

time to get to them to take you all out for dinner and pay for takeaways.

Don’t they have other relatives and friends to see whilst here?

you do need to be a bit more honest about the burden they are adding. If they can entertain themselves or take the kids out themselves that could be a win. Can they babysit and you and DH go out (go away for the night) - can you sept hat as an opportunity for them and a great favour they can do you?

Curseofthenation · 20/08/2023 23:02

Your DF is obviously U for booking a 3 week holiday against your wishes.

YABU for not telling him and his DW to pitch in. You can do this politely. Your DC will see you setting clear boundaries. Your DF will step up if he really is the type to 'drop everything' for you. You'll have to be brave and find out what kind of person he is.

Your DH is a prick for speaking to you like that. Going by how your DF and DH treat you, you're coming across as a soft touch. It's time to stand up for yourself on all fronts!

EveSix · 20/08/2023 23:09

Your husband needs to walk his tantrum right back. How disappointing that he can't be reasonable about your dad's rare visit and shine it on for your and the DC's sake. That's what adults do.
Do pay attention to the hurtful, unkind things he has told you tonight. Petty, mean-spirited and vindictive men speak like that. You may not feel able to call him on it, but don't let yourself forget he said he'd never met you. That's spiteful and intended to upset you.

pinkdelight · 20/08/2023 23:09

he would drop everything if I or the grandkids were to need his help.

This is meaningless when you need his help now and he's wilfully ignorant about it. 70 is not even that old, not old enough to get away with the trad sexism default unknowingly. He chooses to be that way and you all facilitate him. I'm with your DH that he needs to change, and is still young enough to do so. My 82yo dad has always done his bit. It's a cop out to say he'd drop everything while you're running around after everyone stressed out because of him.

They should stay in a hotel for a week rather than land on you for three weeks. It's too much for most family, just about tolerable with your unconditional love for your parents but bloody unbearable when it's lazy entitled in-laws.

So while it's not good for your DP to blow up at you, I do think it's the dad who's massively unreasonable and you do need to be assertive as of now or it'll go on for decades yet potentially. "Dad, I said one or two weeks, if you're coming for three weeks you need to stay somewhere else for a week." And stick to it. Don't be a martyr. They moved away and you're doing more than enough to host them already.

Sickofchangingmyfuckingusername · 20/08/2023 23:13

What happens when you go over to your Dads house in SA? I actually had to tell my mum and her husband to leave after three weeks because she looked like she might never leave. I sent her off to see siblings and found and booked a hotel for her.

IWasFunBeforeMum · 20/08/2023 23:17

Your husband is a dick. 3 weeks every 12/24 months!!

UnfunnyJester · 20/08/2023 23:19

Ok, so it's not ideal but he's here now so just make the most of it. Your dh is an arse to blow up about this and make you feel worse.
Your dad is 70. Who knows how many more times he'll be able to visit you.

RhymesWithTangerine · 20/08/2023 23:24

I think you are being too passive. Tell your father to lay the table.

PrinceHaz · 20/08/2023 23:25

Your husband is the problem. - stropping, saying he wishes he’d never met you etc.
He sounds controlling. I bet he can’t stand the fact he can’t do anything about your dad not pitching in with housework

PrinceHaz · 20/08/2023 23:26

EveSix · 20/08/2023 23:09

Your husband needs to walk his tantrum right back. How disappointing that he can't be reasonable about your dad's rare visit and shine it on for your and the DC's sake. That's what adults do.
Do pay attention to the hurtful, unkind things he has told you tonight. Petty, mean-spirited and vindictive men speak like that. You may not feel able to call him on it, but don't let yourself forget he said he'd never met you. That's spiteful and intended to upset you.

I agree

Olika · 20/08/2023 23:34

My mum stayed at ours for 2 months and I am sure my DH was going crazy at times but he just got on with it. And this was in a two bedroom flat with my DH working nights and sleeping days

GLORIAGloriarse · 20/08/2023 23:38

Your DH is going too far and needs to apologise but I'm afraid this is your and your family's fault. 3 weeks is a long time to be in anyone's home without pitching in or amusing yourself for part of the time. Be more clear with DF, give him jobs. And book some days out with just him/ the kids.

cherry2727 · 20/08/2023 23:40

I am soo worried about the direction of humanity when I read posts like this.
It makes me sad to know that your dad isn't welcome at his daughter's house for 3 weeks per annum . This is the dad who will most probably leave you and your dh a nice inheritance which I'm sure wont be rejected . This is the dad who I am assuming raised you and natured you to be the person you are today . It's the least you could do op. Explain this to your dh!

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 20/08/2023 23:41

Your husband sounds controlling

LivStanshall · 20/08/2023 23:45

Enjoy this time with your father. He won’t be around forever.

TheThinkingGoblin · 20/08/2023 23:46

cherry2727 · 20/08/2023 23:40

I am soo worried about the direction of humanity when I read posts like this.
It makes me sad to know that your dad isn't welcome at his daughter's house for 3 weeks per annum . This is the dad who will most probably leave you and your dh a nice inheritance which I'm sure wont be rejected . This is the dad who I am assuming raised you and natured you to be the person you are today . It's the least you could do op. Explain this to your dh!

Never ceases to amaze me how people overlook dysfunctional behavior.

OP said 1-2 weeks to father.

Father completely ignored her and is now imposing 3 weeks on her and DH.

Stop making excises for dysfuncrional behavior from older people. They do not get a pass.

OP, only option is to get them a hotel.

You have to set a boundary now or your father will simply keep walking all over you to the detriment of your own family.

And thats they key thing here:

Your own family (DH and kids) take prioroty over your parents. You said 1-2 weeks, and they want to take 3 without permission.

I would send them to a hotel for the last week and tell them why.

Holly60 · 20/08/2023 23:48

In a supportive marriage, you and your husband would have grumbled about it together. You maybe would have had a little cry and DH would have hugged you and said 'cheer up love, we'll get through it'

Or maybe the other way around 😄

VeronicaSawyer89 · 20/08/2023 23:51

Your dad is 70, not 90! My dad is 66 and absolutely doesn't come from a generation where he thinks the housework is equal. Tell your dad to get off his arse and help out!

Fizzadora · 20/08/2023 23:51

But they are your guests, why on earth do you expect them to do chores?

Your husband is being a twat. If he is so much into sharing jobs equally, does he expect your father's wife to do anything or is it just your Dad he's having a go at?
Sounds like he's jealous.
Tell him to grow up or you won't be sharing any inheritance with him when your DF pops his clogs.

Mmhmmn · 20/08/2023 23:54

"And saying nasty things about how dysfunctional my family is and how he wishes he had never met me"

What has happened does not and will never justify your H saying he wishes he had never met you. That is such an awful, cruel thing to say.

Not easy OP, being stuck in the middle.

I find MIL behaviour extremely challenging and irritating but would never be so blatantly awful to partner because of it.

Holly60 · 20/08/2023 23:54

How that conversation might have gone in my house:

Me: 'Dad's coming for 3 weeks'
DH: 'what the! Oh bloody hell what did you go and do that for?'
Me: it wasn't me! I said a week! (not mentioning I said 1-2 👀)
DH: exasperated sigh (loudly and for dramatic effect) 'Right. Well I best get the wine in'
Me: 'Dad doesn't drink a lot of wine'
DH: 'well it's not bloody for him is it?!'

Queue tension releasing laughter and normal business resuming.

Anything more is overkill to be honest

Holly60 · 20/08/2023 23:57

Oh goodness.

Cue

Cue tension releasing laughter. I even thought about which one it was and still wrote the wrong one!

MrsElsa · 21/08/2023 00:01

So weird all around. Why no air bnb ?!!!!

I wouldn't want anyone staying for 3 weeks especially not someone who expected to be waited on / life to revolve around

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