To consider getting a Brazilian wax

[GalGadont]

Never had one before as it seemed like a lot of trouble and wasn’t something I particularly felt the need for, I usually just shave and trim. Previous bfs have seemed to be fine with that (and of course I believe it’s up to me what I want to do anyway).

For some reason, no idea why, I’ve been recently feeling it’s something I might like to do. Not currently in a relationship so it’s not because of that, I just fancy being hair-free. Am I insane? Will it be expensive and incredibly painful? What are people’s experiences?

Obviously none of this is about individual men and women. But we are all much more influenced by societal pressures and norms than we think we are.

Although there are individual men who do put pressure, consciously or unconsciously, on women to be hairless.

@Verv 🩷👭🌈

The difference between a Brazilian and a Hollywood as I understand it is this:
Both take everything off the vulva, underneath and right to the back.
A Brazilian leaves a small triangle or strip of hair on the pubic mound.
This is what I have.

If porn were the reason women shaved their pubic hair then why is it men usually don't? Makes no sense to me, in porn nobody has pubic hair most of the time.

I do it for the same reason I do my legs. I prefer how it feels and I feel "fresher" somehow. I do it when I'm single too. If it were "pressure" then why would I bother when nobody is going to see it?

I also have a man like that, it doesn't make what I said any less true though.

Hair on women is seen as unhygienic or masculine... pubic, leg, armpit, upper lip etc etc

I'm single and have a Hollywood wax every month, I like the way it feels being bare, it's a personal choice,

It's painful, worse if you leave it too long, I generally go monthly and have it done when I get my brows done etc

I disagree.
I actually believe most men don’t even care or have a preference.

I remember when I used to swim competitively as a teenager in the 90’s and there used to be young girls with hairs in their bikini area hanging outside their swimming costume. It was always the older women who would be critical and shame those young girls and gossip about them having a rug in their knickers. It was always the men who shut the conversation down and highlighted how inappropriate it was to talk like that.

I actually don’t think men even care. I have had hair and had no hair throughout life and even rocked an untamed bush. Men did not give a flying hoo-ha.

It is like some men prefer curvy women and some men prefer thin women, yet as women we mostly all feel this societal pressure to be thin. Hair a certain way (head hair). Certain outfits.

It’s women. We are the societal pressure.

So no. I do not believe women shave or wax or laser because of porn or because it is what men want. I believe they do it because they want to.

So many responses on this thread from women who have removed their pubic hair and they stated their reasons why - many before hairless porn was even a thing, yet there’s still so many posters bleating out the same rhetoric that women only remove hair because of the patriarchy and porn. It’s ridiculous and you’re adding more pressure on to women because if they remove hair due to their own personal choice, they’re being reduced to just being yet another woman influenced by porn. You’re trying to guilt women who have a preference over their own body and shame them for their choice.

I bet not one single woman on this thread who removed pubic hair did it for a man or to conform to this “male ideology” of a hairless woman. I bet they all did it because they wanted to.

Your choice OP.

If a man asks or demands one then he should be single.

I'm hiding behind my hands when I ask this just incase its only me.....🙈🙈🙈

What about the few hairs that grow....aherm.....just on the inside of your flaps (the outer ones). Do they wax those off for you too? I can't imagine how that would work.....🙈🙈🙈🙈.....with it being a more....cough....moist surface. Can you still have wax applied to those bits? I'm so sorry to have to ask. That's what puts me off going.

@FarmGirl78
They do everywhere, the hot wax is a large amount and it takes it all off. They do your butt too! But this is why I always go to a specialist wax place, not a beauty salon that does everything. I want someone who sees vaginas all day long haha

If fashion was for bushes then I'd still be an all off woman. Heavy flooding periods, constant changing of pads and tampax and a regular swimmer are my reasons. Wax or not, woman can do what the hell they want with their bodies!

I quite literally told you in my post that it was a sensory issue.
I have agency.
I am not affected by societal expectations.
I do not shave my legs, I can rarely be bothered to shave my armpits.

Stop pushing your own political assumptions on to my pubic hair.

I'm assuming that poster meant the effect of porn on society. Porn started the bald fanny trend so it doesn't matter if you watch it or not, it's still influencing women to have all their hair taken off.

OP, I stared getting Brazilians around 20 years ago and then moved onto Hollywood. I've never found it painful at all. Even from the first time.

Porn didn't start the trend. Waxing has been around since ancient Egypt, Greece and Rome. It was routinely men who waved. Throughout history there have been means of removing body hair, Waxing was prevelent in renaissance Italy. I'm sure I heard a podcast about this on Betwixt the Sheets.

Not denying modern Porn has exacerbated the trend but it's been around a very long time, literally thousands of years!

There's very little between a Hollywood and a Brazilian in terms of process / pain given Hollywood is everything and Brazilian is everything but a tiny strip or triangle at the front, that's just a preference / aesthetic thing really.

Agree with all the PP who have said about making sure it's good quality hot wax, no double dipping. And there is quite a world of difference between a v skilled technician and someone who isn't. My regular lady is brilliant - she used to work at a well known chain; one day I went in and she was sick, it was a VERY different experience with the woman who took her place . So with a skilled technician after the first time, and if you go regularly, it really barely hurts at all.

With regards to the porn thing:

I think there was a connection with porn featuring more shaved women, and it's popularity beginning in the 90s. There were other factors as well, celebrities mainly, popularizing it.

But there are a variety of reasons that many women like to do it that are totally unrelated. Some is just fashion, but it's not the only reason. Personally, in middle age my periods are so heavy due to fibroids, I find a natural grooming approach gets quite sodden through the day, and I really hate it. When I was younger it wasn't an issue, and I also found removal created skin problems, so I didn't - thankfully this no longer seems to be an issue.

My partner tends to prefer it for his own reasons, and I'm happy enough to accommodate that. And actually, he generally keeps things very short down there too, for my benefit. So it's not one sided.

I also think there are downsides to shaving or waxing, some serious for some people, and it's unfortunate that people feel pressure about it. Even just that some partners may not prefer it. I'm not sure there is a good way around it though. It would be nice if there was enough variety that people felt happy with whatever, kind of like hairstyle choices.

I wondered that too when I first went, in fact I put off going as those were the bits I most wanted rid of as they're uncomfortable and unpleasant during my period.

They whizz the whole lot off (if thats what you want!)... so yes, Hot wax/non strip wax adheres to the hair, not the skin so it does not matter what sort of skin it is.

Its not so hot it burns (I find it er, not an unpleasant sensation!), and yep, they can get the hair there, the hair right underneath before your bumhole, if you have a somewhat larger pubic mound and a kind of 'notch' at the front, they can get in there and whip all that out too!

It honestly does not hurt anywhere near as much as people make out (obviously, done by a good, experienced person, done by an idiot then yeah... but that applies to many things!) and the more you go, the less that is an issue as you get used to it, but also because once you've been a few times there is less hair and its finer/thinner.

Because men look better hairy, more masculine in my opinion. Women look much better hairless, less masculine which in my opinion looks much better on females

Yes, a wax will get rid of the valance ! 😁

Ladies, thank you!

@FarmGirl78 . To add to the helpful response above, as I have suggested further up thread, don't have sex the same day. After that it's fine.

So who are these men?

Why not?
Regular long term waxer here. Can't say I've thought about it

So who are these men?

Love, I'm a women with hairy armpits and pubic hair. Dark hair.

Men do not prefer hairy legs or armpits. Or a full bush, most of the time.

You don't need to kid yourself here. You're welcome to shave but it's just dumb to pretend that these things are desirable on women in our society. Ok?