Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

[MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather]

I'm inclined to think we've been scammed. Am I being unreasonable?

@DivingForLove Well - I'm looking at how much of a percentage my contributions are actually going to the people I've donated to, and how I got suckered into this. I'm not giving my money to these people anymore - I'm only giving locally now.

Thanks to everyone who said I wasn't an idiot for giving. I only did it with good intentions. It was a difficult time - I wasn't well but I wanted to help. Yes, it seems foolish now, but it didn't then.

As for Hannah - she's tarnished her family name alright. Hope it was worth it.

Blunderwoman!!!!!

I had a 3 hour video cassette tape - VHS (although the family originally went Betamax 🙄)

So 3 hours of the Indie, Rock and Dance charts taped of The Chart Show - Saturday morning? Anyone?.

Family member taped over with fucking Russ Abbott 😭😭

Oh and absolute villain. Smug with it too. Nasty.
I'd rather spend 3 days in a hole being subjected to Russ Abbott on loop rather than see her profiteering from genuinely kind people.

I didn't donate. I'm not genuinely kind. I'm a miserable cynic.

😁

I never understood the hype but just thought each to their own, and especially during Covid.

It just reminded me of the gushing bandwagon everyone jumped on after Princess Diana died. All that money wasted on flowers outside Kensington Palace. This felt the same. So weird for such an old chap to be doing it and people paying him. And then he got an honour for it. For essentially doing one thing. My mum has spent her whole life doing more volunteering than that. Thank goodness those initial funds did go to the NHS.

I don't agree on the gentleman part. The daughter's values have to have come from somewhere. And when he talked about his much-younger wife - I never felt there was much compassion there. I am not saying he would have approved of Sir Tom Part 2 (after his death) but I dont think he is the squeaky clean as portrayed.

You really weren’t an idiot. And definitely not the only person choosing to donate!

Just as an aside to help in future - donate directly to the charity of your choice rather than through any giving platform if you can possibly help it, as they also take a fee. Meaning less of your money reaches the actual intended destination.

But please don’t stop donating to charities full stop! They’re not all bad!

Also one further tip - any Go Fund Me or crowdfunding page really ring alarm bells for me and I would try and avoid them if at all possible. Unless you are 100% certain or don’t mind losing the money. I’ve seen far too many where the money is paid to the creators bank account and then never ends up at its destination.

I called out this whole thing from the start though and wasn't sucked in like everyone else (although I think most people actually lost the plot around this time generally). I didn't donate and rolled my eyes everytime bbc breakfast rolled him and his gobby daughter out. It all just felt "off". Even my husband said I was awful for saying what I thought at the time. I always said, if this was a poor old bloke living in a council house doing laps of his tiny front yard no one would want to know, it was all gift wrapped in so much privilege, people lapped it up, the bbc dined out on it for months! The daughter was always there which was just weird, it was very clear she was the driving force and not at all surprising there are now questions over where all this money actually went. All very fishy.

I saw it was top story on the BBC homepage again earlier, I just showed it to my husband and laughed. I hate being right 😆.

@Crapsummer2023 he could have been on the grift not doing all ta waking

?? Which of my posts are you replying to?
You don’t think the actual facts are important?
Allowing and listening to hyperbole and tabloid half truths does more harm.
If people are going to comment then they should at least have their facts straight.

How much did you donate? I think I paid .99p to download some god awful song with Michael ball. I'm pretty sure the money raised went to nhs charities, not capt Tom or any of his family.

🤣🤣🤣 genuinely made me LOL, thank you.
And yes, total scammers.

It pisses me off that Captain Tom is the oldest artist to score a Number 1 single in UK chart history with that truly awful collaboration with Michael Ball. So undeserving.

As previous posters have said, money given to sponsor Sir Tom went to NHS charities together and has made a difference. The issue is the charity subsequently set up in his name and run (until recently) by his daughter, Hannah. No-one who sponsored Sir Tom was scammed

I always said, if this was a poor old bloke living in a council house doing laps of his tiny front yard no one would want to know

Oh yes I remember a guy being told off by a police officer for standing in his own garden near his own front door not long into the first lockdown. Social housing estate

Going back to the original campaign- when I was giving money I thought I was donating towards equipment to save people's lives -not mars bars and tea rooms for staff. Not that they don't deserve them - absolutely do, but we were told we were in an absolute crisis. Cadbury and coffee isn't a crisis.

We live and learn.

I don’t feel scammed because I had a screaming gut instinct sometimes wasn’t right from the very second the news began reporting Captain Tom’s walking. Something always seemed off and dodgy. At the time I was told I was being unkind about a nice old man. I know nothing has come out about him doing something wrong but it always gave me bad vibes.

Staff morale and therefore staff retainment is vitally important. You can’t run any fancy equipment with no staff.
The NHS is in crisis- mainly a staffing crisis.

Our local trust uses NHS charity monies for sanitary products in staff toilets, a wellbeing visit to different staff hubs with massages and free drinks for staff, animal based wellbeing sessions, art therapy … that sort of thing.

It might feel like a waste of money but actually staff morale is really low, staff are operating a skeleton workforce while facing unprecedented levels of demand.

A lot of staff are traumatised by what they have been through, it’s so unsafe across many areas of the NHS that it affects staff members mental health … colleagues are leaving in droves and those that are left are baring the burden of keeping people safe when they know they can’t.

I honestly lost it with her when she took Sir Tom on holiday and he caught covid and died.

She's a chancer for sure. Why aren't they throwing the book at her?

Sounds like a politician more than a villain.
And at the end of the day, didnt capt Tom -who was great laugh and distraction, just walked his estate daily...

And I find it interesting she a villain who profits off her dad...but didn't he raise her?
If u don't like her ethics, what makes u think she didn't learn it off her dad??

To be fair if my job had animal therapy it would incentivise me to stay!

Re: tea and coffee…. There is no tea and coffee in our clinics for staff. No milk, nada. There’s not even any where for staff to sit in some locations, to eat something.

Parking is paid for, in one location staff have to walk a good 15 minutes after paying for the privilege to park. There is no reliable public transport.

These really basic things make a massive difference to the workforce because the environment is so shockingly bad in many places in the NHS. Not everywhere I know.

We are facing an unprecedented staffing crisis in the NHS - I can’t emphasise enough how important it is for us to retain the workforce we have by treating them better. The charity donations from Tom Moore have supported lots of wellbeing initiatives.

So our money, in your trust ,went on tampons, massages, art/animal therapy and treats?

Wow.

I think she’s taken full advantage of the situation. My biggest problem is that charities are allowed to be run this way.

Look at Harry and Meghan, setting up a “charity” in a tax haven state of Delaware which has hardly any oversight and only 5% has to actually be used for charitable causes.

Villain (if wrongdoing is proven).

As demonstrated by this thread I think a lot of people are confused about the money raised by Sir Tom, which did go to the NHS and money raised by the Foundation his daughter created after his death.

In creating the Foundation she capitalised on her father's "brand" and has allegedly personally profited from doing so in the form of payments for attending events as CEO of the Foundation, that were paid to a totally different company owned by her/her husband, requesting a totally unrealistic salary plus the whole bloody spa that was meant to be an office for the foundation.

These actions, if correct have not just sullied her reputation but that of her father as well.

People will forget (or already have) that his goal was to raise money for the NHS, which he achieved and only connect him with events that happened after he died and I think that's pretty sad (and pretty damn exploitative of the memory of someone you claim to have loved).

Additionally, because of that (and again evidenced by this thread) it will put people off donating to charity in the future possibly to the tune of far more than Sir Tom raised, so another pretty shit legacy that is far removed from her father's intentions.

That's why I'm out of the charity giving. I'm sure most people didn't give to that charity to supply nurses with tampons, massages and cake - and who knows what else. Sick!