Hannah Ingram-Moore -Victim or Villain?

[MrsImFedUpOfTheWeather]

I'm inclined to think we've been scammed. Am I being unreasonable?

I think Captain Tom was an old man trying to do something kind for charity. I feel like she was always a little bit too keen to be in the spotlight and all this new information makes me feel like she scammed her own father a bit. She's tarnished his memory and that's unforgivable. Telling that her own sister doesn't seem to have anything to do with her. I know of the family and live nearby. I feel very sorry for her children.

Previous poster seems to think Captain Tom caught Covid from Russ Abbot( no idea I'd this is true )
Russ Abbot released a single called Atmosphere in the 80,s it was very cheesy but when played at parties etc it got everyone up on the dance floor

I always thought it was very telling that you very rarely saw the other sister in any of the publicity… it felt like they wanted to be clearly distanced!

Taken from her personal website- particularly love the use of the word authentic.

"BE UNWAVERING IN YOUR PURSUIT OF PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT AND HAPPINESS, BE BOLD, AUTHENTIC AND REMARKABLE.”

The NHS charities did receive the money from the initial appeal and certainly anything donated via CAF or JustGiving will have gone, less normal processing fees. Thereafter the Captain Tom Foundation is a bit less clear, but it’s also much less money, 20/21 just over £1m

Hence is under ongoing investigation by the charity commission. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/regulator-announces-statutory-inquiry-into-the-captain-tom-foundation

She as CEO (for those 9 months) is obligated to know where the money went and it does seem a bit irregular that speaking or appearance fees she got whilst representing the charity were paid to her private company and not the charity, if media reports are to be believed.

The family should still know where the money went as her husband is still a Trustee.

Unfortunately this type of thing can happen when people who don’t understand the charitable fundraising regulations set up charities. however well meaning they are. I don’t know if she did it knowingly or not, but I work in charity fundraising and remember quite a few of us were dismayed that the foundation was set up as the money was being funnelled perfectly efficiently to NHS charities together. So this was an extra layer of admin and control by someone who wasn’t really experienced enough to handle that amount of money and it seems didn’t understand or willfully ignored the onus on protecting the charity brand in order to protect the public trust. And there seemed to be clear conflicts of interest, which need to be declared and managed and perhaps weren’t.

Charity CEOs of large charities are paid accordingly as it’s complex legally.

I hope the charity commission get to the bottom of it as this does really damage trust in charities, most of which are well run and do the work they are supposed to and are increasingly relied upon by society.

I have to say I’ve not been impressed by her handling of things at all and I wouldn’t be donating to the foundation until the investigation is concluded. but NHS charities together is still a safe place to donate should you want to support.

I think naive to say the very least - but an absence of knowledge about charity operations and regulations will have led to this. Many people think it's a doddle and can be done by anyone (ideally volunteers). It can't always - this is why you pay people to run charities, to ensure it's administered properly, within the law, and to serve the mission, avoiding conflicts of interest and egos. I have no issue with them paying someone to run the charity - there was a lot of money to distribute properly. I think her dad was a good man who did a good thing and it just all got a bit out of hand at a time when everything was all a bit much. There's no permanent charity there - the job is to distribute the monies and account for them in a proper way for the means they were raised for. Should all be closed in a few years. Legacy will live on in many impacts of that. Job done.

I totally understand what you are saying. My sister is a long-standing, very experienced nurse and the whole Covid situation almost broke her and I know she's not alone in that.

Credit where it's due. She was good at PR - without her managing it, the story probably would not have got into the media and would not have raised all the money it did at the time.

However she then pushed her success a bit too far taking advantage of her reputation and the charity to make some questionable claims in relation to getting planning permission.

Clearly reputation management isn't part of her PR skill set.

Who knows what's behind the latest claim, that she invoiced for a public appearance in the wrong company name? Perhaps it was just for accounting reasons, maybe there is some fraudulent or tax avoidance intent behind it.

So remind me, what did they do with our national insurance payments? The NHS needs fucking privatising tomorrow.

I think they should maybe have been a little more savvy about the stories they allowed to be uploaded

www.agiftofkindness.net/kindness-stories

Op you have no idea what you are talking about on so many levels it’s embarrassing:

1. you didn’t bother to research what NHS charities do and now seem surprised at its objective - that’s on you
2. you seem to be confusing what Tom did for the NHS charities (legit) and what has happened afterwards
3. you are ridiculous in begrudging nhs staff of food and basic comforts. Are they robots? Will you be expecting them to not have water and toilets next? Nhs staff are the foundation of the nhs
4. covid is deadlier than flu when unvaccinated. It’s also more infections. These are facts. Nhs staff were in crisis mode - you clearly are not in the nhs so have no idea and continue to spout absolute ignorant, stupid nonsense

Can't upload the pilchard one. Omg

Her and her husband are chancers, always on the make and in the process have sullied her Fathers memory and good deeds. Shame on her

What a stupid overreaction. If your new car breaks down do you say "well, that's it, I'll never run a car again"? Thought not.

There are many well run charities that do good work and whose affairs are transparent.

Sounds to me like a convenient excuse to be selfish with your money which you can pretended is 'experience'

I'm a nurse and was redeployed into the hospitals during the pandemic. I don't really get the begrudging nurses cups of tea and food. There were some meals provided by charity (and lots of chocolate and cake) but when it comes to feeding ourselves we were the lucky ones who continued to have regular, solid employment. We were more than able to bring our lunch in as usual.

Hannah Ingram-Moore is absolutely a grifting horrible woman who should be in jail. That is without question. She is despicable. The performance at Wimbledon just showed what an utter arsehole she is. She is scum.

I couldn’t bear the mawkishness surrounding Captain Tom, and by the end, couldn’t stand the sight of the bastard. The foundation set up in his name needs closing down because that is genuinely shady with no real charitable purpose.

HOWEVER all that said, the fact that hard of thinking posters don’t understand the function of NHS charities is a separate issue. It is utterly unsurprising that scum like Hannah Ingram-Moore are able to take advantage of these situations when people just froth with excitement at the thought of an old man pottering around his own garden with his war medals on and they mindlessly hand over cash because the daily mail tells them to. Get a fucking grip, and this sort of shit will have much less opportunity to happen.

Never again will I give to a 'charity'. Charities are for fools.

People who say this @Moneynewpence would never have donated money/time in any meaningful way anyway. It's just a convenient hook on which they can justify themselves - they're all grabby scammers, innit?

I doubt OP donated a penny. She’d begrudge her nose droppings.

Taking the old boy on a long haul holiday during a pandemic where he caught COVID off Russ Abbott and ended up in GRAVE.

I have no clue if this woman is guilty of anything.

However cpt Tom was over a hundred years old. With the best will in the world, he was never going to live much longer. If it wasnt covid, it would have been flu or something. At least he got a holiday.

No this bloke.

Oh God we are going to be Russrolling from now on. I can just see it.

Did Russ Abbot really kill Captain Tom. 😱

I would be very pleased if every penny that I donated went on tea and Mars Bars for nursing staff. They are amazing people who work hard doing often grotty and upsetting tasks under intense pressure.

But this woman and her actions sicken me. I remember a whiff of it whilst Captain Sir Tom was still alive, when it came out that his daughter's company was being paid £85k out of the donations for her "consultancy work". And now this.

It's cynical and deeply unpleasant. And pssng all over her late father's efforts and legacy. They were already a wealthy family, but to abuse the donations made in this way, along with the profits from the book and single released, is appalling. The image and efforts of Captain Sir Tom were one of the few bright points in the deep and unremitting well of despair and misery of the pandemic and lockdowns and now that will be forever tarnished and dubious because of callous money-grubbing by his daughter. In every way horrible.

Probably not but there is a picture of him with Russ Abbot and cliff Richard in Barbados .

The only other famous Russ I can think of is Russell Harty?