To think an autistic child should not be treated like this by the police?

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I don’t know the background to this video, but at no point is there any suggestion by the police that this autistic teenager has done anything other than say words the police didn’t like.

I am absolutely shocked that this is happening in Britain.

IABU - that’s an appropriate police response to homophobic words
IANBU - those police officers should be sacked

Warning: the video shows scenes of an autistic teenager being hurt.

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Pretty sure it’s gender neutral in the same way “guys” “prick” “dickhead” is etc.

Hold on to your #offended horses just now but maybe have a look at your bigotry.

How have I been misogynistic please? I don’t see what I said that could have been perceived that way.
I don’t like witch trials by social media because they are based on nothing but emotions.

Except, as I've pointed out in my replies to you, this one is 100% justified and was the only way to get the facts out there. Genuine question: do you believe that WYP would have backed down if she'd privately made a complaint and not made a massive noise about it with the video evidence?

The child is female and you've been derogatory to her and her mother.

Why are you even on a site predominantly for women?

You're a bigot, being disgusting about a child with additional needs. You need to check yourself.

Unless you have a connection to the police because that's the only way I'd see that anyone could excuse the behaviour. WYP admitted that after reviewing their officers bodycam footage, she had no case to answer. Ergo, officer hurty feelings was entirely in the wrong and the heads are now hoping it all dies down.

I am no friend of the police and I have had bad experience with them, but I was never innocent when getting into trouble with them. That’s the only reason why I keep wondering about the lead up and sound edits towards the end. I know you have explained some of it but I don’t think edited footage should be used to form an opinion.

So I am not allowed to question any women or else I will be called a misogynist? This case centred on 3 women and I questioned the narrative put forward on social media. I have not been misogynistic.

I don’t know if posting history is visible here. I only signed up at the weekend when a friend (female, in case this is important to you) mentioned a thread that I’d be interested in. I have posted there since. Nice try though.

You are telling me what my opinion isn’t valid because I am a man? None of my posts were aimed at women or gender issues.

No mate, I’m saying that in a total reversal of real life, no one here cares that you’re a bloke. I your normal life, I’ve no doubt your views are given additional credibility. Don’t expect that here and don’t get sad when it doesn’t happen.

I honestly couldn’t care less about your penis. Hth.

I think the video shows a ridiculous level of escalation even without a drunk autistic teenager in the mix. I suspect if the child had been male and non-white things would have been worse.

She was also drunk.... and taken home by the police

Not that it's an excuse.... just she was drunk and taken home by the police for being drunk in town.

Shit show all around.

What did @Sheog say? I only caught the deletion message.

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But it wasn’t about women or girls. I have the same attitude towards anyone who relies on emotional reactions. I think it’s a bit rich to brand someone a misogynist on the basis of this but I don’t even care any more.

Then take the gender out of it and consider that the person hiding under the stairs was having the worst, most stressful experience of her life - unjustly - which caused them to involuntarily enter a state where they couldn't control anything they were doing, and wouldn't even begin to recover from it for another 20 hours...and will have to live with the trauma of that for the rest of her life.

Because yes, it's that serious for an autistic person.

It's not a case of asking you to have sympathy for a woman or girl (depending on how you look at it). It's asking you to show some humanity.

Only a lost cause of a human being would genuinely find that funny.

You're accusing the specific women and girl in this specific video of relying on emotional reactions, and you say you think it's funny. This is misogynist and ableist. It just is. You lack the capacity to understand that and that may not be your fault, but we don't have any responsibility to you to accept or pander to it.

I genuinely cannot understand how or why this would have been a traumatising experience (particularly for someone who is able to socialise outside of the family home), so obviously I find it amusing how everyone is freaking out about such a non event.

On the gender nonsense going on here:
I never even brought gender into the discussion until someone called me a bitch and I felt it was fit to clarify before someone calls me deceptive down the lines.

You can't understand because you're not autistic. Being able to socialise outside of the home is masking, and many of us are able to do it...but that doesn't mean that we're not autistic. In fact, it's a known phenomenon that autistic folk will lean heavily into drinking at an early age, because when everybody's drunk our social deficits become much less pronounced relative to everyone else - or, to put it another way, everybody's dumb and socially-stupid when they're drunk. It's easier to blend in.

The problem isn't that you don't understand, though, or that you seem to think that the Rain Man archetype is an accurate reflection of autism (it isn't). It's that you're seemingly unwilling to even try, because you'd apparently rather revel in the amusement.

Try looking it up, and try a little bit of empathy for the fact that other people don't have the same perception or experience of the world as you do. You might find a better you in the process.

I'm someone with an ASD diagnosis who is able to socialise outside the house, and who at that age would respond to the most extremely stressful of situations by cramming myself in the tiniest space possible and/or repeatedly hitting myself, which would eventually help me feel calmer and more composed if left to it. Finding that funny is the equivalent of seeing a non-autistic sobbing with distress, tears streaming down their face, needing so be comforted with gentle hugs and strokes and murmured reassurances, and finding it hilarious.

Don’t lecture me on masking because I am better at it than any of you are.

What I cannot comprehend is the emotional instability and emotional reliance that seems to come with it for some people (autism or not). That’s what I look down on. Not gender, race, diagnosis, age or condition.

Thats why this video is so incredibly annoying.