To think an autistic child should not be treated like this by the police?

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I don’t know the background to this video, but at no point is there any suggestion by the police that this autistic teenager has done anything other than say words the police didn’t like.

I am absolutely shocked that this is happening in Britain.

IABU - that’s an appropriate police response to homophobic words
IANBU - those police officers should be sacked

Warning: the video shows scenes of an autistic teenager being hurt.

twitter.com/SineadKelly113/status/1689176155562143744?s=20

I also hope there is a big backstory, and she was actually suspected of a heinous crime warranting immediate transfer to a police station for the protection of the public.

Because otherwise the behaviour of the police is terrifying.

I have to admit I'm a bit sceptical when the only source is a racist on twitter.

People are missing the point. Even if this child has commited a very serious offence and needed to be arrested, it is possible to arrest someone whilst still being sensitive to their needs and disabilities, without manhandling them in a way that causes them pain.

I work with vulnerable teenagers and, sadly, have witnessed several kids being arrested over the years. I have seen the situation handled calmly and appropriately, and I have also seen the Police being aggressive and heavy handed, particularly when the child in question has been from an ethnic minority background.

The why so many is because the original officer arrested the young woman.
Once arrested she is committing another offence by not getting into the car.
The officer can use reasonable force but 1on1 or even 2on1 is likely to result in work related injury to officers and injury to whoever (young woman, male in black and woman with phone) stops them putting her in the car
to minimise the risk the officer can now call for backup to use force against her

Taking the clips at face value the question is why the officer decided that being described as a "lesbian like nan" was an insult and therefore qualified as a hate crime.

Problem for me is that if the officer is at a private home to speak to someone and arrests a family member for words (even very nasty ones) it always feel like an over reach of power because the officer war not "winning" with the original reason for being there and has redirected that fustration.

Points given to the officer who was willing to sit down under the stairs and talk like a rational human

It doesn't matter who has videod it, the police should always remain professional and keep a grip on themselves. They're in the wrong job if they can't deal with difficult situations.

Yes - the tagline "this is what happens when certain groups are prioritised" (I'm paraphrasing) is very telling. This account wants you to think the police have acted wrongly and to stir up ill-feeling towards gay people who they think get special treatment.

Wouldn't trust it as far as I could spit. There is clearly a lot more to this.

It's difficult to imagine what a young girl could have done that warranted that many police officers. Adult men who pose a genuine danger have been arrested with less police presence.

If that was the case - that they were there because the child committed another crime - then it would be very surprising that it wasn't mentioned once as a reason for her being arrested and dragged off, only the fact that she asked if the woman was a lesbian.

The most concerning thing to me is that not a single one of them tried to de-escalate the situation. Any vaguely-competent officer would also connect the fact that the girl's autistic with her not understanding that asking if the woman's a lesbian might be taken as offensive (which, in the modern age, is hardly common).

Oh, and here's the kicker...gay folk might be a protected class, but so are autistic people.

It's not long ago that this happened. Teenage girls sure are scary. 🙄
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/16/police-strip-search-black-girl-school-east-london-racism-misogyny

Gently coax her out? They are massive men cornering her!! WTF!

I think this video is only showing part of the story, the part that suits their agenda. I don’t think police would waste resource like that over anything trivial.

Ah a purity spiral

Would you like to buy a bridge?

at no point is there any suggestion by the police that this autistic teenager has done anything other than say words the police didn’t like.

So apparently the comment was made to the officer inside the home? Why were 6 police officers at the home in the first place? They’re being very quiet about that.

This is horrifying. The girl says one of the officers might be a lesbian like her own Nan and the police go ballistic? All police officers should be wearing body cameras and be made to give them up for scrutiny daily. Incidents like this should have them lose their jobs. It must surely be time now to clear out the whole rotten barrel and instant dismissal for misconduct is the only way.

As the parent of an autistic 21 year old, my son would never recover if this happened to him.

He hates being touched. He hates confrontation. He hates lots of people crowding him. He might very well say someone looks like a lesbian as he has little filter and doesn't quite get political correctness.

Whatever this young woman did or said - and the police in the video aren't saying "come on you know that's not what happened, that's not what this is about" when the mother keeps saying "all she did was say the officer looked like a lesbian like her nana" - this was a badly handled situation.

People saying that many police don't turn up to a house for no reason - initially, it's just a man and woman; the woman PO clearly says "I have already called for backup" during that first argument. That many police certainly would arrive to a call for backup for "resisting arrest".

I think people who believe the account given by TikTok are probably the ones buying a bridge.

Or looking at sources and not automatically believing everything I see on social media. But sure whatever makes you feel superior.

Seeing as the police don't respond at all to actual crimes she must be accused of a very serious assault or murder not saying someone who is presenting in a way that might signal lesbian was called a leabian? Also is it not way more homophobic of the policewoman to object to being told they look like a lesbian, is is offensive to her to be gay? So many problems here.

Or looking at sources and not automatically believing everything I see on social media. But sure whatever makes you feel superior.

What do you think she could have done that would make the situation on the video ok, out of interest?

I’m a parent of autistic kids and this gave me chills. So many autistic people make moments with absolutely no malice whatsoever, just no filter, and are of absolutely no harm to anyone.

So as much as some posters on this thread are willing to think the worst of this terrified young girl and her family, I can well believe the scenario we’re being presented with, and I hope we find out more today. Because as it stands at the moment, we have a vulnerable young autistic person being dragged out of their house for a thought crime.

Sorry why is calling someone lesbian offensive? Is it bad to be gay and so rude? I don't understand how the teenager with a lesbian nan is homophobic I just see homophobic police?

@miniaturepixieonacid trapping an autistic girl in the middle of a meltdown in a cupboard is absolutely the wrong thing to do. The second she gets a chance she flees to the safety of her mum to get away from the man blocking her exit. As for bending her arm when she has scoliosis there are no words.
She was released without charge AFAIK.

Unfortunately the police have done themselves no favors over the years by covering up despicable behavior in their own force and knowingly employing horrible human beings. They also routinely ignore actual crimes and haven’t got the time or resources apparently.
West Yorks police in particular would rather go in mob handed to a suspected “hate incident” (allegedly saying words they don’t like) rather than tackle criminals that require actual work but don’t get ticky-box points.
So on balance I’m minded to give the video credence until I’m convinced otherwise.

I don't know. I'll wait until more information comes out from somewhere that isn't racist twitter.