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Climate lockdowns

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Jbrown76 · 31/07/2023 20:38

As seen in the media recently, Europe is experiencing extreme heat, fires ect caused by climate change and global warming. It's terrifying. what sort of things can be done, will climate lockdowns help?

Do you think we'll have voluntary or mandatory climate lockdowns? Aka banned from travelling, no flights, cars ect, no red meat, encouraged to walk or cycle,15 minute cities?

When do you think it might or will happen? What will it look/be like? Will you voluntarily lockdown and reduce your carbon footprint? Or does the government habe to mandate climate lockdowns?

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bluejelly · 31/07/2023 21:25

Don't be silly. Our lives may change (and could well be for the better - excess red meat and overuse of polluting petrol cars aren't good for any of us) but there is absolutely no need for a lockdown of any kind. Why would you think that?

SummerDuck · 31/07/2023 21:25

The fact is we will all need to spend a lot more time at home and close to home to save the planet. There is no need for people to be gallivanting about in cars to go for coffees etc.

Lockdown showed us that the vast majority of activities can be done perfectly well from home. And yet we are all now back to travelling about needlessly meeting friends and going to concerts.

It cannot continue if we are to have a future for our children.

orangegato · 31/07/2023 21:26

Maybe they could encourage WFH so I don’t burn through petrol needlessly?! Let that be a thing please.

Allmyghosts · 31/07/2023 21:26

Never had a car, +10 carbon credits to me

NothingWrongButTheFire · 31/07/2023 21:27

I am sadly resolved to the idea that humankind will not stop until we've burned the planet to a crisp. However, there is no one I'd trust with the power to lock me (or anyone else) down again.

Except maybe my mum. But she's not gonna want to do it for everyone Grin

Feverly · 31/07/2023 21:27

Creating a new consumer is the worst thing people can do for the planet. Everything you suggested OP wouldn’t make a difference worth noting.

Climate lockdowns
FOJN · 31/07/2023 21:30

SummerDuck · 31/07/2023 21:25

The fact is we will all need to spend a lot more time at home and close to home to save the planet. There is no need for people to be gallivanting about in cars to go for coffees etc.

Lockdown showed us that the vast majority of activities can be done perfectly well from home. And yet we are all now back to travelling about needlessly meeting friends and going to concerts.

It cannot continue if we are to have a future for our children.

I'm assuming this is satire.

PurplePositivity · 31/07/2023 21:32

Wonder what the chances of the OP coming back to the thread?

Feverly · 31/07/2023 21:32

I gallivanted to Asda yesterday. There was no need, after all I could have ordered from my home. <weeps in shame>

TaiDee · 31/07/2023 21:33

In don’t think climate lockdowns are a serious policy suggestion.

And I don’t expect people’s ability to travel by car will be significantly impeded, given the planned switch to EVs in the near term.

jackstini · 31/07/2023 21:35

Beijing did it temporarily in 2008 to cut pollution and smog for the Olympics...

They banned half the cars per day - number plates ending in odd numbers could drive one day, then even numbers the next!

TooOldForThisNonsense · 31/07/2023 21:36

Not “lockdowns” per se but some curtailments of freedom probably.

As for when? 17th September 2035. Honestly how can any of us know that

TooOldForThisNonsense · 31/07/2023 21:39

SummerDuck · 31/07/2023 21:25

The fact is we will all need to spend a lot more time at home and close to home to save the planet. There is no need for people to be gallivanting about in cars to go for coffees etc.

Lockdown showed us that the vast majority of activities can be done perfectly well from home. And yet we are all now back to travelling about needlessly meeting friends and going to concerts.

It cannot continue if we are to have a future for our children.

have I travelled back in time 3 years?

ruffler45 · 31/07/2023 21:42

The planet is overpopulated and not heading in the right direction.

VinEtFromage · 31/07/2023 21:45

SmedsAndSmoos · 31/07/2023 21:24

This is true.
Every time I put another plastic wrapper in the bin I feel my soul slipping slightly.
How can the world have changed so drastically in such a short period of time?
Realistically, the advent of formula milk was the beginning of the end.

@SmedsAndSmoos yeah. all those babies not dying of malnutrition, it's definitely down to them!

🙄🙄🙄

drinkuptheezider · 31/07/2023 21:45

My conspiracy colleague was on about this today as well as aliens etc he reckons covid was step 1 to test the water, step 2 climate change to ramp it up, then it will be faked alien invasion to scare us into submitting to elites world control, we were rolling our eyes 360. customers pissed themselves

LegendsBeyond · 31/07/2023 21:46

One way or another governments have to change behaviours & the damage humans are doing. There’ll be no cheap flights & probably limits on flying. More & more charges for driving/owning cars will be brought in. It will be more gradual than a lockdown but these things will happen.

Moreorlessmentallystable · 31/07/2023 21:48

Yea I would do it once the super rich stop flying private , downsize from their mansions and lower their carbon footprint to the median at least.

UnicornStarfish · 31/07/2023 21:48

Climate lockdowns wouldn't help. For example, let's look at wind. Some currents are global, some are localised. It works one way in the northern hemisphere, differently down south and along the equator, then there's height to consider and whether it's a built city or a green area. The ozone layer is not the same width everywhere.
Vulcanoes alone emit an awful load of greenhouse gases, not to mention the ashes. Think of Iceland 10 years ago. I was flying out of Heathrow and most flights were cancelled because of the ashes.
When we fly the fumes are released into the most stable layer so they hang around where they're free to react with whatever. It's worse in the northern hemisphere but air currents will carry them far and wide because they're very stable they'll "arrive" in high concentrations.
If a nuclear bomb blows up the radiation will travel far and wide as it did when Chernobyl happened.
We must all make an effort but most of all we need better technology because let's face it we'll never be all in it.
People must also educate themselves. They should have a look at how vegan things are made in terms of resources and what happens with that waste.

Proofinthepudding · 31/07/2023 21:48

SummerDuck · 31/07/2023 21:25

The fact is we will all need to spend a lot more time at home and close to home to save the planet. There is no need for people to be gallivanting about in cars to go for coffees etc.

Lockdown showed us that the vast majority of activities can be done perfectly well from home. And yet we are all now back to travelling about needlessly meeting friends and going to concerts.

It cannot continue if we are to have a future for our children.

Well I didn't have kids so I've reduced my carbon footprint far more than you.
I'll gallivant all over to my hearts content thanks

User8421 · 31/07/2023 21:49

HermioneWeasley · 31/07/2023 20:45

Absolutely fucking not. No, no, no. The Uk produces something like 2% of the world’s carbon emissions - there is literally nothing we or our government can do to make a difference

2%? A tiny country like us? There's plenty we can do then.

UnicornStarfish · 31/07/2023 21:51

Maybe it's 2% but where does it all come from? Look at a map and see how far away China and Bangladesh are.
It would be better to buy and produce locally. Wasn't there a crisis in supermakets not long ago?

Proofinthepudding · 31/07/2023 21:52

@SummerDuck and why should I sacrifice my life activities to save your kids future?
I made the biggest sacrifice by not having any.

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JamSandle · 31/07/2023 21:52

SummerDuck · 31/07/2023 21:25

The fact is we will all need to spend a lot more time at home and close to home to save the planet. There is no need for people to be gallivanting about in cars to go for coffees etc.

Lockdown showed us that the vast majority of activities can be done perfectly well from home. And yet we are all now back to travelling about needlessly meeting friends and going to concerts.

It cannot continue if we are to have a future for our children.

But this isn't living.

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