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Could you be with a partner who doesn't believe in climate change?

616 replies

ToDoLists · 26/07/2023 16:17

DH doesn't really think it's all that bad. He thinks we should be recyling more and caring for the planet as makes sense and is just the right thing to do - but that climate change as a disaster is an exaggeration and not based in science. And that people are utilising it for their own agenda, woke brigade & so on.

We have young kids.

AIBU to find this position increasingly problematic?

People are going to say people are allowed different opinions but he seems geniunely unconcerned about future of planet for our kids - and I find that hard to swallow.

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Indigotree · 26/07/2023 22:02

StandingMyGround888 · 26/07/2023 21:12

This is not a "problematic opinion". Wtf. The agenda to narrow the range of accepted opinions to one particular set of ideologies is doing well.

Will you support people's bank accounts, access to their homes etc being revoked on the basis of the beliefs soon? Perhaps their ability to have or raise their own children?

You have been manipulated by mass media to consider leaving your husband because he has a different opinion to you on one issue? Erm... okay?

It's hardly about random differences in opinion, though, is it?
It's a major ethical issue and a huge clash in values.

StandingMyGround888 · 26/07/2023 22:08

Indigotree · 26/07/2023 22:02

It's hardly about random differences in opinion, though, is it?
It's a major ethical issue and a huge clash in values.

No it isn't a major ethical issue because whatever OP and her DH do or do not do, it won't make a jot of difference to the planet.

Besides OP has admitted she is not seeking major changes of lifestyle.

I'd say get over it, have sex, watch a nice film and stop looking for an ethical high horse to sit on over your own family.

PistachioGelato · 26/07/2023 22:31

It's science. It's not a belief.
Rather like biology.

PistachioGelato · 26/07/2023 22:32

Canthave2manycats · 26/07/2023 16:24

Just don't talk about it. Who knows, maybe he's right?!

Erm climate scientists

PistachioGelato · 26/07/2023 22:33

I'd find him a bit dim... but I'd be more offended if he voted tory op.

Swrigh1234 · 26/07/2023 22:35

spitefulandbadgrammar · 26/07/2023 16:24

Climate change denialism is on par with racism or homophobia in terms of partner dealbreakers. Mind you I’m not sure I could be with him just for using the term “woke brigade” so perhaps I wouldn’t be with a climate change denier in the first place to have to put him in the recycling bin.

This kind of hysterical attitude really is something. I wonder if people like this poster realize that how they have have been gripped by irrational nihilism.

Swrigh1234 · 26/07/2023 22:38

OP, you are morally pure and are being tainted by association because of being married to your husband. People of your stature and intellect should not have to put up with it. Please put him out of his misery. Poor guy.

BrokeTheDietAgain · 26/07/2023 22:45

I like difference of opinion. I enjoy it when my husband and I think differently and especially when this leads to interesting discussion.

I disagree that being sceptical about climate change means you are stupid/think/unintelligent. It's just a different view and shows he isn't accepting blindly what the larger voice is in the UK at present based on information we are given by the media (I think you might find if you were both living somewhere like China, your DH's view might not be in the minority).

Its ok to disagree. If you believe strongly in your view, then maybe have a discussion and see if your arguments can convince him. If they can't, maybe see what his arguments are and discuss them.

Life would b very boring if we all just thought the same. It's good to have different views, and especially in a relationship IMO. I've been married 15yrs and with DH 20yrs. I fully expect we will grow old together. Why? Partly because we are not afraid to have different opinions and are always happy just to chat with each other, listen to each others views and appreciate each others difference...

Superfans · 26/07/2023 22:45

Science is never “settled”. Climate is a complex system and can’t be predicted using current technology. The BBC reporting is far from factual on many issues and there is a very clear bias and agenda around the climate change reporting. We all need to be open minded and willing to listen, rather than demonising those who disagree as stupid or mentally ill.

BrokeTheDietAgain · 26/07/2023 22:47

Superfans · 26/07/2023 22:45

Science is never “settled”. Climate is a complex system and can’t be predicted using current technology. The BBC reporting is far from factual on many issues and there is a very clear bias and agenda around the climate change reporting. We all need to be open minded and willing to listen, rather than demonising those who disagree as stupid or mentally ill.

Agree

Whatapickle07 · 26/07/2023 22:47

Hardly something to break up over. Everyone has their own opinion. Some people believe the earth is flat, some in God's, and some believe in life on Mars. Just get on with it.

Me and my partner have differing views on some subjects just agree to disagree. Why do we live in a world where everyone is made to think that everyone has to pander and agree with them.

DdraigGoch · 26/07/2023 22:49

DH doesn't really think it's all that bad.

That's hardly outright denial. It's not like he's gone full-on conspiracy theorist.

Whatapickle07 · 26/07/2023 22:49

Totally agree with @Superfans science is ever evolving, let's not forget before there was human life on earth, we went through ice age's etc.

WandaWonder · 26/07/2023 22:55

How does a person believing or not actually help anything? Sure if you want to split up over it sure I am sure people have split over less

But it me is says more about a person wanting to be right more than anything else 'I beleive in this topic you don't so I am better than you' rather than the topic itself

ToDoLists · 26/07/2023 22:56

@Whatapickle07 I don't think I could be with someone who thought the earth was flat. I'd struggle with someone deeply religious too. Maybe I'm being intolerant.

I don't think the media has it right of course not but there are certain standards of fact checking etc that you don't get with YouTube

Also the idea that politicians and media and Big business joining together to create an exaggerated narrative?? What is this exaggeration achieving? Wouldn't it be a lot easier and make a lot more money for multinationals to keep flying/drilling/dumping. I don't understand what people think the agenda is to make us all unnecessarily concerned about the implications of climate change.

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/07/2023 23:05

Yes

Current beau is adamant the moon landings were a con, Sinead O'Connor already died about five years ago, and that the crows in the garden regard themselves as having an official role as early morning alarm call and that they can be 'commanded' to start up at specific times, so I would be a massive hypocrite if I turned around now and said 'you don't believe the ice caps are melting? You are clearly bonkers, sling your hook'.

It would be utterly tedious being involved with someone who isn't at least part-way mad anyway.

DontEatCrisps · 26/07/2023 23:14

OP, is it. Just the climate change thing or is he generally a bit of a crank/conspiracy theorist?

EmilyBrontesGhost · 26/07/2023 23:21

The "case" depends on the funding.

That is why we can't trust "science" any more.

Science isn't science, it's coming up with the results the funders want.

DontEatCrisps · 26/07/2023 23:28

Sad that the people pretending to be married to scientists don’t have the confidence to pretend to be scientists themselves. Internalised misogyny, maybe.

spitefulandbadgrammar · 27/07/2023 03:17

DontEatCrisps · 26/07/2023 23:28

Sad that the people pretending to be married to scientists don’t have the confidence to pretend to be scientists themselves. Internalised misogyny, maybe.

Hahahaha! Depressing thread but this comment has cheered me almost out of the grip of hysterical nihilism.

Mamai90 · 27/07/2023 03:43

Personally no I couldn't because it wouldn't be limited to just this. People who deny climate change are the same people who believe in wild conspiracy theories, anti vaxxers and covid deniers. So I couldn't tolerate someone so idiotic.

If it was just limited to climate change and he had a decent argument for it then I might be able to grit my teeth but my assumption would be that it's just be the tip of iceberg.

WandaWonder · 27/07/2023 03:47

DontEatCrisps · 26/07/2023 23:28

Sad that the people pretending to be married to scientists don’t have the confidence to pretend to be scientists themselves. Internalised misogyny, maybe.

Do scientists not get married?

Annaishere · 27/07/2023 04:05

I’m not sure if it’s a thing either. The world goes through phases of hot and cold. We’re still coming out of an ice age

IAmAnIdiot123 · 27/07/2023 05:54

What is it you want your DH to actually do? You say he already recycles and tries to care for the planet where he can. Is there something else you want to do that he isn't on board with? Maybe getting rid of the car?

Or do you just want someone to sound board off of whilst doing nothing of any relevance?

GreenwichOrTwicks · 27/07/2023 06:01

this - well said