People becoming increasingly rude and self entitled

[SusanandMidge]

A friend was told to fuck off by a delightful woman at the weekend when she asked a bunch of adults (late 20s, early 30s) to turn off the loud music they were blaring from the pavement and singing along at top volume to at 11pm.

On Saturday I had a woman with a young child in the car refuse to reverse when she was driving the wrong way in a car park and our cars met. She insisted I reverse and even opened her window and said a sarcastic 'now was that so hard' when she passed me.

My neighbour was berated by an affronted father, one night last week, for asking a child aged about 12 who was creating an absolute racket outside her house at about 10.30pm and refusing several requests to move, where she lived so she could speak to her parents. Apparently she really upset the child who arrived home in tears!

Is it my imagination or are people becoming increasingly self entitled and highly indignant when asked to show a bit of consideration or manners to others?

@TankFlyBossW4lk - it is the mark of a really impolite person to treat someone serving them poorly. That person had no choice but to serve.

However, I would think these people you identified have been doing it their whole lives! In my experience people have mostly been polite and continue to be. What is new perhaps is a general idea that say on a bus or a train or another public place that someone's needs are so great that the general public should accommodate them.

There have always been patronizing people in ROH. That was true twenty years ago and still true. A more interesting example is perhaps one of these women raising her voice to an intense scream as the interval G and T is late.

I don't think I've got a doppleganger, TenderDandelions but just to mention the almost solely British cruise I took was outside of school holidays (I'm retired so avoid them like the plague)

And on that experience I won't be going on another ...

Is this supposed to be an imitation of a particular accent? You're rude!

@gingerguineapig - swearing generally is aggressive, and to be avoided towards strangers. Oddly it seems you can swear around close family or friends without causing offense but agree entirely it's neither interesting nor some badge or honour

I'm very sweary but it's a time and place thing, I wouldn't do it if I was talking to a stranger or someone who would be offended by it.

Having manners doesn't mean you are a pushover. Successful people are mostly well mannered. They cultivate people

There are exceptions of course, but in general I'd agree

Unfortunately it raises the age old question of whether someone's badly behaved because they're living in less fortunate circumstances, or if they're living like that because they're badly behaved
It's admittedly more complex than that, but still a point worth considering even if not always a popular one

@Anxioys
"There have always been patronizing people in ROH. That was true twenty years ago and still true. A more interesting example is perhaps one of these women raising her voice to an intense scream as the interval G and T is late"

My goodness! That's exactly (interval champagne) what both women were being awful about. Really unbelievable.

I think being able to communicate is a very important and valuable skill. If we don't teach children how to behave and communicate appropriately how will they learn. If all they see is ranting, rude, entitled grownups this is how they will also behave. The most successful people I know are incredibly good communicators. They are charming, calm and respectful and by treating people with respect they will usually achieve far more than the ranting people.

That isn’t true. I claimed housing benefit for a short time in 2008 and people received a set amount for the amount of children they had. I could have chosen to rent a house for 5000 but I’d have been paying around 4400 myself.

I don't agree with pp who said it is because we are no longer a particularly religious country. Well, not unless statistics show that even more atheist countries are experiencing similar (worse) behaviour problems - Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany etc. Having just come back from France I was struck by the wonderful behaviour of French children in restaurants and other public places.

Having just come back from France I was struck by the wonderful behaviour of French children in restaurants and other public places

Oh god, don't start that again

Last time this happened, it was insisted that the French are abusive and disablist into the bargain ...

You see it on here about noise all the time. Many posters appear genuinely outraged that someone might think they should limit what they do in their house or garden in any way out of consideration.

Absolutely this. I have often read “if they want quiet they should live in the middle of nowhere”. Right, so 10 neighbours should move so that one household can make noise? And “they [the annoyed neighbours] can wear headphones”. What about the person making the noise wears headphones?

I’m not especially old but I do feel like there used to be more of a mentality of considering the impact of your behaviour on others, what goes around comes around, do as you would be done by. Whereas now it’s more YOLO and “I know my rights”.

Haha, was unaware, sorry!

Lockdowns usually got little to do with it.

A large section of Brits were beyond the pale long before 2020.

To add, a lack of discipline and deterrent is a big factor these days. The police aren't respected, the government are hated, nobody trusts or believes in authority anymore. A lot of kids aren't parented properly, a lot of awful people have kids, who grow up to become even more awful.

No. They're not 'becoming' ruder and more self entitled.

In my experience the rudest and least tolerant people I've met are the older generation.
Everything and anything is an annoyance to them and they feel they are right in any situation.

This is frequently beautifully demonstrated on this website.

Those people not parenting properly were also parented badly.

So maybe look a little closer to home?
The rose tinted glasses of older generations are laughable.

People are awful. Worked in a hotel for 5.5 years and honestly the shit I had to put up with up was disgusting.
I used to daydream about telling people to fuck off 😂

You could argue that the baby boomers rebelled against their 'old fashioned' parents in the 60s and with the counter culture movements and general behaviour/parenting has got worse ever since.

When older people have a go at younger people, ultimately it's the older generation who are responsible for the mess. It's their children and their children's children who lack manners.

I perhaps would have, if it was only one group.

But there were multiple! This was also at Barbie, but it was an evening showing so not for young-young children, which I may have been a bit more understanding of.

Then you seem different from many on here, I get amazed at the idea that a parent can send an email on, say, Friday evening and expect a reply quickly. Your school seems to have the right idea for both staff and parents.

I get amazed at the idea that a parent can send an email on, say, Friday evening and expect a reply quickly

I'm more amazed that staff would ever allow parents to have their personal email addresses, given that it's almost certain to be abused
Even if they reply from their own devices surely a separate one could be set up just for school use?

Agree with you totally, some do not have basic manners but then you see their parents and that says it all. It does not matter if someone has money or not as bad manners and rude and entitled is everywhere but then you will meet some lovely people and kind people and it restores your faith in humanity. Seems to be a lot of feral kids around with parents who do not give a damn and a lot of overly spoilt wealthy kids who have no idea of real life. People driving their cars late with music blasting with no consideration for others is so annoying and agree on the music/parties as had awful neighbours before but lucky they are ok now as moved. Cocaine has a lot to do with the behavior of many now as a bag of cocaine seems to be the normal now so all strung out and think they are god's given gift.

I own a cafe and thank god if must be a local thing to some of you. I have one test customer a month if that, every one lovely as can be. As well as in and around the area. Sorry for you lot tho, sounds grim

One twat customer that meant to say