Am I being unreasonable to thinks MN has become full of blokes lately?

[hopelessmum1]

I have been absent for a while and I am suddenly seeing lots of blokes usernames. Could yous not go and create a Dadsnet or summat so women can talk freely and openly without being monitored by men? @mumsnet

Are you telling women to get off Mumsnet if they don't like men posting here?

And calling women 'bitter', too.

You're probably absolutely flummoxed as to why so many of us aren't keen on men being on MN, aren't you? Probably think it's because we're all man hating harridans, don't you?

Why do you think we need a 'male perspective'? If we did, we'd ask for one.

Well, in some extreme cases it may be the latter. 😝

Good grief. He didn't say we NEED a male perspective. Just that he's being open about the fact that he's posting as a man.

Presumably I prefer to know when a poster is male. Half the protesting posts on this thread are complaining that male posters hide their sex. Again, are you deliberately making it impossible for them to do this right?

So, let's get this straight. Do you want the men on this board to hide that they're men, or let you know that they're men?

Funnily enough, I was going to use nappies as an example but thought better of it 😂

Yes, defintely some with a handmaiden agenda here. How depressing if that's actually coming from women rather than men.

I'd like them to not offer their opinions unless asked for them specifically. And certainly not to wade in, sleeves rolled up, offering their nuggets of wisdom 'from a male perspective' as if that's the final word on the subject. As so many of them do.

Mumsnet clearly says that men are welcome here. So you expect them to sit here in silence and wait for someone to ask them to speak?

You're being absolutely ridiculous.

I don't go on the sex branch so if there are creeps in there, there's clearly a problem. But I spend a lot of time (probably far to much) on here, and I don't come across the caricatures of men that you're describing.

I like that there are men on Mumsnet - they offer a valuable perspective and it's good to see dads being as involved with their kids lives as mums are. I think most will come to learn rather than to pronounce - as most of us do.

Of course men are welcome! Nobody said otherwise.

Their sanctimony/perviness/MAN HERE ALL IS WELL bollocks (no pun intended) however is not. Many women get enough of that shit irl.

I'm ok with persons of the male persuasion joining in (I'm kind of prejudiced in favour, having given birth to 4 of the creatures myself and being really quite fond of them). Sometimes male posters have a useful perspective, sometimes they even have the same perspective as many of the rest of us, and some may broaden their own perspectives from what they read here. I also don't have a problem with the "As a man" type intros when it's relevant; not seeing that as a claim to superiority but more as a disclaimer, if you like, or a bit of context. If nothing else it probably helps to remind posters that this is a public forum which anyone could be reading, posting on, or copying to their horrible newspaper.

I believe most men aren't going to go on MN, precisely because it's seen as a women-only site and if they so much as open it their penises will wither. The ones that do are either more sensible or here to cause mischief. Obviously the MRA types are not here in good faith and are therefore not welcome. They can be reported or, better still if you want to annoy the life out of them, ignored completely ;) Personally I prefer to rip them verbally to shreds, but I've never been good at keeping quiet.

I don't think I tend to see these annoying men though... Maybe because I'm interested in older kids things.

Hi everyone. Thanks for your comments. There are a few things mentioned here we'd like to address.

Mumsnet is a post-moderated forum. We get around 30,000 posts every day and so we rely on (and hugely appreciate) user reports as we may not see a post unless it's reported. Unlike many platforms, we have a team of trained, human community managers who read and respond to every single report. We're always happy to explain our reasoning if you're ever unsure or unhappy with a decision we've made.

Personal attacks are a clear breach of our Talk guidelines and would be removed - but again, if you don't report them, we're unlikely to know about it.

As for blokes - we've never said that Mumsnet is for women only. Our mission is to make parents' lives easier and we very much hope that includes all parents. (We also have a fair few members who are not parents.) Broadly speaking, if you are happy to post within our guidelines then you're welcome on Mumsnet.

Men who come onto threads to contribute in good faith, no problem.
Men who start threads with tall tales about women behaving badly in a vain attempt to demonstrate 'women are as bad as men';
Who come onto threads to shriek 'double standards!' and 'misandry!' and tell lies about the responses on other threads to argue it exists;
Who try to persuade us they are more attractive in middle age than we are, and have queues of 20 something women after them;
Who tell us we are shallow for not fancying them because they're short;
Who say 'Man here...!';
Well, they're all rather tedious, aren't they?

Who try to persuade us they are more attractive in middle age than we are, and have queues of 20 something women after them

I like these ones. They're always posted at 10pm on a Saturday night. I'm at home because I'm a boring old mum with a husband and two kids in bed. What's Mr Lover Lover with his Playboy-style harem doing here?

As for blokes - we've never said that Mumsnet is for women only. Our mission is to make parents' lives easier and we very much hope that includes all parents.

Thank you. I originally joined about 20 years ago as, surprise surprise, not many dad's were talking in large numbers and my wife and I were having some issues with our first born. She wasn't using the internet much so I joined to ask questions.

MN has always been a great resource but there's also a diverse range of stuff like money, exercise etc etc. One of the funny ones on here was a light-hearted 'ask a man anything' on AIBU. Hilarious as it was just a bit of silliness. But I still post the occasional question when in need of advice and people are brilliant. I try to do the same where possible.

I remember few years ago a male was picking on me on here that it ended with my account being banned.
Some men come on here looking to pick fights with women, don't know why.
I've no problem with men using mumsnet as some are single parents playing role of both mum and dad in their lives.
But any male picking on or arguing with women on a site called mumsnet should be shut down rather than closing womens accounts.

Exactly.

There's a nasty whiff of MRA about some of the men who post here, too.

You still haven't answered my question though

So, let's get this straight. Do you want the men on this board to hide that they're men, or let you know that they're men?

Yeah but sone women come on just to kick others also

And others seem to come on to sow societal dissent

But seriously, how often do you see that? Like I said, I spend way too much time on here, and it's very very rare for me to come across posts like any of the above.

It just feels like this thread is making a mountain out of a molehill.

If there are creeps on branches such as the sex one, then sure, they need calling aout and reporting. But I mainly read threads that come up on active, and I rarely see the behaviour from male posters that you've listed. And we're perfectly capab;e of responding to those in the same way that we'd respond to posts from unpleasant women on here.

I just don't see it as a big deal.

They are there though, @saraclara - just because you don't see them, doesn't mean that isn't true.

I don't care either way, as long as they're not dicks.

Exactly. Particularly on certain boards. Relationships is another of their favourites.

This thread has reminded me of this brilliant thread from a while back 😂

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4328169-Post-here-but-like-a-man-who-has-just-discovered-MN