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JSO prevent a mum taking her baby to hospital.

718 replies

TRexTara · 22/07/2023 12:38

I don't know what these people think they are achieving. I think the mum was in a cab which looks like an electric car anyway, they refuse to let her get past.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23127608/furious-mum-screams-baby-hospital-just-stop-oil/?utmcampaign=nativeeshare&utmsource=sharebarrnative&utmmedium=sharebarr_native

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Shamefulsecrets0 · 22/07/2023 17:34

They're all self absorbed twits who think protesting pollution by creating more pollution is clearly a genius way to get the governments attention......but of course they're not inconveniencing the government (something tells me they wouldn't dare), they're inconveniencing working class people just trying to get by in a cost of living crisis and the government has proven time and time again that they don't particularly give a shit about us. And of course we have the idiots on this thread who think that killing a couple of babies is magically going to clean the air up and stop the deaths of 30000? It won't. The statistic just goes up to 30002
......such a compassionate person. I am not a violent person but frankly if any of those protesters get run over and seriously hurt or worse - I'd feel no sympathy for them whatsoever, they've proven what sort of scum they are.

Beeinalily · 22/07/2023 17:36

DP and I were discussing the JSO people earlier. There's something wrong (well obviously!) but they seem drugged or hypnotised, unfocused. I feel like there's something else going on here.

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 22/07/2023 17:36

They’re increasing pollution by causing traffic jams. Seems crazy to me.

Saucery · 22/07/2023 17:39

Beeinalily · 22/07/2023 17:36

DP and I were discussing the JSO people earlier. There's something wrong (well obviously!) but they seem drugged or hypnotised, unfocused. I feel like there's something else going on here.

They’re just powered by Smug.

oakleaffy · 22/07/2023 17:39

Have lost ALL support for these wanky protesters .
Absolute scrotes for stopping very I’ll people from getting through.
Arseholes just out to cause trouble for ordinary people.

Fair play to anyone who does lose their cool with these soap dodgers.
Targeting ordinary people has caused a huge falling off in support for the cause.

Soontobe60 · 22/07/2023 17:43

JenniferBooth · 22/07/2023 16:16

@Soontobe60 And that kind of disbelief leads to this.......

https://twitter.com/riverstour/status/1681607241575591937?s=20

So they are happy to move if you can show them proof of the medical appointment. So this is where we are now Having to show a complete stranger your medical paperwork so you can get to your appointment Which is supposed to be confidential
Papers please!!!!!

Peter Bleksly is right. JSO are a cult

Tell me, do you believe everything you read in the press - and in the gutter press specifically? Do you never think ‘oh, that person may have made that up for a reason’? As I said, if I had been that woman I may well have said the same thing even if it wasn’t true. I wouldn’t sit patiently in my taxi clocking up a massive fare just because some oil protester decided today was a good day to block my journey. I’d have said anything to get him to move. If I’d actually had a sick baby in the car I most likely would have dragged him out of the way by his high viz vest in order to get through.
Im not criticising her - I applaud her! Do I think there was a sick baby in that car? I’ve no idea.

Soontobe60 · 22/07/2023 17:44

EpicChaos · 22/07/2023 17:33

Upset? upset? i'm incandescent is what i am! You might not think you're lecturing but that's exactly how you come across.
I've seen what grinding poverty does to people, their families and their communities. The dependencies on alcohol/drugs in an effort to escape even for a short time, the crushing feelings of hopelessness when there's no work, when the poverty has led to love flying out the window and divorce coming in through the door, splitting families and resulting in heavier spirals into drug/alcohol abuse and then homelessness quite often. I've seen it play out many times, far too many times to sit here and have a bunch of hypocrites lecture me while they're stopping people getting to their work so that they can put food on the table and clothes on the backs of their kids. Are you going to fully financially support them if they lose their jobs thanks to JSO/XR getting them sacked for bad timekeeping? Are you/they? No i bet you hot foot it away then.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

RugbyMom123 · 22/07/2023 17:44

My baby stopped breathing in a Brue event and I had to rush him to hospital in my arms floppy and blue.

Without a doubt I would have run them over.

Sessasig · 22/07/2023 17:45

Good for her even if she didn't have a baby in the car to be honest. There will undoubtedly be people stuck in the tailbacks who for various reasons feel unable to advocate for themselves and wouldn't feel confident to approach them to say they need to get through.

TRexTara · 22/07/2023 17:49

@Soontobe60 Do you know what? Even if the 'baby' she had in the car was a puppy and she was trying to take it to the vets, even if she lied and was on her way to her mates house for coffee and a gossip, ( which I don't believe because I can hear the fear in her voice) it doesn't matter. She told them she was taking a sick baby to hospital and they did not move.

Like I've said on this thread before, if you are going to plan a potentially dangerous protest you need to have a plan in place. They risked a child's life for nothing, because very few people are now supporting them.

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Gingerboy22 · 22/07/2023 17:50

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 22/07/2023 13:35

Don’t understand how you tolerate that down in England. They’d not survive trying to block Scottish roads, they’d have been dragged off by their hair and forced down to let folk past.

and kicked firmly in the nuts too 😂😂 like at Glasgow `airport!

TRexTara · 22/07/2023 17:51

@Soontobe60 sorry I didn't word it well, I'm absolutely supporting all your posts! 👏

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Dibblydoodahdah · 22/07/2023 17:51

My newborn baby coughed up blood. I was told to take him immediately to A & E. I sat in the back of the car with him shaking as I held his tiny hand. I will never forget that journey or the terror I felt that night. Anyone on this thread defending these morons or trying to argue that mum and baby could have got to the hospital using public transport is an absolute disgrace.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 17:55

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/07/2023 13:38

Summerhillsquare · Today 13:34

Ah, the Sun,ever reliable in its sources and champion of working people 💪”

Are you not seeing what other people are? I’m desperately worried about climate change but JSO are doing all that they can to alienate “working people”.

I hate the sun as much as the next guy but they're not responsible

Weve all seen the videos. They're doing it themselves.

I'm not a piers Morgan fan but he made an excellent point about the fact most ot us would agree about cc but the way they're doing it with big smirks on their faces has alienated everyone. Everyone thinks they're idiots.

The guy being interviewed said if even 1 person is taken by their cause IRS worth it. Thats ambitious.

I dont believe anyone assaulting these idiots or running over their foot should be charged. I saw footage today of a man being detained for pushing them. He shouldn't have been. It's their own stupid fault.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 17:57

renamedbutsame · 22/07/2023 17:22

These oil protesters are beaten up and dragged by burly men like animals on some video recordings ...not nice for anyone involved

Good.

Iolani · 22/07/2023 17:58

Beeinalily · 22/07/2023 17:36

DP and I were discussing the JSO people earlier. There's something wrong (well obviously!) but they seem drugged or hypnotised, unfocused. I feel like there's something else going on here.

I believe they are told to not engage and to not react to anything. The one or two main guys at each demonstration will react, like the lady trying to stop the motorbike driving through. However the rest are told to just walk slowly.
That’s why they look like drugged up zombies

What really annoys me is the level of hypocrisy.
They wear plastic and leather. When they stopped traffic in Canterbury a while back I asked them why they where wearing leather. No one seemed to appreciate the hypocrisy or tbh understand what I was talking about.

Don’t any of them do the research.

Iolani · 22/07/2023 17:59

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 17:57

Good.

They chose to be there, animals don’t. So not like for like.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 17:59

ivykaty44 · 22/07/2023 15:18

Well, this gives you the measure of them, doesn’t it.

what would you choose then?

30000 a year dying or 2 people each year

They sound like terrorists and in this post so do you.

I assume youd be happy to volunteer 2 ot your family.

In any case, its not either or. These idiots are doing nothing to stop cc. Nothing.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 18:00

Iolani · 22/07/2023 17:58

I believe they are told to not engage and to not react to anything. The one or two main guys at each demonstration will react, like the lady trying to stop the motorbike driving through. However the rest are told to just walk slowly.
That’s why they look like drugged up zombies

What really annoys me is the level of hypocrisy.
They wear plastic and leather. When they stopped traffic in Canterbury a while back I asked them why they where wearing leather. No one seemed to appreciate the hypocrisy or tbh understand what I was talking about.

Don’t any of them do the research.

As pointed out by PM, the vegans amongst them dont mind their avocados being flown over do they.

Their slow walking and smirks irritate mi dont think they know how stupid they look.

Fab video this morning of them painting a window and a man power washing it and them 🤣

Simonjt · 22/07/2023 18:01

Flickersy · 22/07/2023 17:04

If your child was that ill why would you waste time arguing when you could ask the taxi driver to turn around and take a side street? JSO are a pain but they don't block all the roads - just go round.

I rather suspect the baby was not in a critical state.

Because there won’t be any cars behind you in the queue…

Simonjt · 22/07/2023 18:02

Flickersy · 22/07/2023 17:13

You can, you turn around in the oncoming lane which is also empty thanks to the blockage.

Which in many places in London don’t actually exist due to many many one way roads.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 18:02

@Flickersy
Firstly you saying she lied about her sick baby is vile.

Either way, why should she have to go round? Why?

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/07/2023 18:03

Does anyone know if they have training before they go on their walkabouts?

I've watched a lot of the videos and they all seem (mostly) to be intent on not making eye contact with the public, staring into the distance, and refusing to communicate at all with anyone having a go at them.

The only time I've seen anyone 'react' is when a car nudges them and then the keep turning to watch their backs.

I detest them as they are passive aggressive and know that if anyone shows violence towards them, they will be in the wrong.

Look at that women some months ago who nudged them with her big SUV as she was trying to get her child to school. She got a conviction yet these idiots got away with nothing.

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 18:03

I hope someone sets up a group to disrupt them. I'd support that.

DeliciouslyDecadent · 22/07/2023 18:04

WildUnchartedWaters · 22/07/2023 18:03

I hope someone sets up a group to disrupt them. I'd support that.

They did , last week- but it was a one-off. Another group circled them and 'kettled them' onto the pavement.