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Why use gender when you mean Sex ?

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Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 21:25

Why do people ask the gender of their baby or have gender reveal parties ? The correct question is what sex is my baby or maybe I’m just getting totally fed up of woke nonsense.

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OMG12 · 20/07/2023 21:50

Well sex and gender are the same thing in that you can only be male or female., in certain circumstances eg language, spirituality the concept of gender can be used separate to sex

when I was a kid, they used “gender”
as synonym with sex to stop the sniggering at the back.

Now it appears that gender is synonymous with stereotyping of )mainly women)

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 21:54

TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 21:44

If you book a private scan to find out the sex it’s called a gender scan at most places, so people have a gender reveal party. Why does it bother you so much?

Again because the clinics don’t want to say sex. Because they think sex is embarrassing despite the fact that all their clients are there because they’ve had sex

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 21:55

x2boys · 20/07/2023 21:48

The irony..

Can you explain?

ilovesooty · 20/07/2023 21:55

In wider society I don't think people care as much as they appear to on here.

Can't get past the persistent use of "woke" anyway.

bellac11 · 20/07/2023 21:55

Has anyone seen the new neurophen advert, its addressing the 'gender pain gap' which is about WOMEN who arent really taken seriously about their pain (which is common)

But of course it is only biological females that get this sort of response from health providers, a man pretending to be a woman would no doubt be taken very seriously in terms of his health needs, compared to women

Therefore there is a SEX pain gap, people are discriminated in health care based on their SEX

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 21:56

@marshmallowfinder sorry for that you’re right ♥️
It is important because the nonsense being taught is that there are eleven billion genders ok a complete exaggeration but more than 2 is at best incorrect and at worse very damaging to women and it is mainly women affected

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TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 21:56

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 21:54

Again because the clinics don’t want to say sex. Because they think sex is embarrassing despite the fact that all their clients are there because they’ve had sex

And? It’s still what they call them, so people throw gender reveal parties. In real life nobody is that angry about them being called gender reveal parties rather than sex reveal parties.

TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 21:57

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 21:56

@marshmallowfinder sorry for that you’re right ♥️
It is important because the nonsense being taught is that there are eleven billion genders ok a complete exaggeration but more than 2 is at best incorrect and at worse very damaging to women and it is mainly women affected

So if you think there are only 2 genders then what is your problem?

EmpressaurusOfCats · 20/07/2023 21:58

Gender is a stupid concept & the world would be better off without it. Women especially.

mindutopia · 20/07/2023 21:59

I’m a sociologist. In my 20 years of experience, it’s nothing to do with ‘woke nonsense’, it’s literally because people don’t understand the difference between them. It’s nothing to do with some woman hating conspiracy, literally just that most people weren’t taught about it at all in school and are still confused now. Combined with a lot of squeamishness about saying the word ‘sex.’ None of this is new.

pikkumyy77 · 20/07/2023 21:59

OMFG.

nonman · 20/07/2023 22:01

Because sex has many meanings and people are squeamish/prudish

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 22:01

@TeaKitten I don’t know how many genders there are there seems to be more every time you look - I’m talking about sex there are two make and female

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LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 22:02

TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 21:56

And? It’s still what they call them, so people throw gender reveal parties. In real life nobody is that angry about them being called gender reveal parties rather than sex reveal parties.

Tbh gender or sex reveal parties are naff as fuck.

But at least don’t be prudish.

FanFanFanFanYam · 20/07/2023 22:03

It’d be a more pressing question to ask why people have gender reveal parties full stop.

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 22:04

@mindutopia what don’t people understand the difference between - sex and gender ? I don’t understand it I thought they were the same growing up now it all seems skewed to suit the agenda being promoted

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TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 22:04

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 22:01

@TeaKitten I don’t know how many genders there are there seems to be more every time you look - I’m talking about sex there are two make and female

Well you said there’s only 2 but you also said You don’t know your babies gender because they aren’t old enough to make a decision. Sounds like you are on both sides of the fence.

WandaWonder · 20/07/2023 22:05

Same reason 'we're pregnant' is not biologically impossible but people are odd

TeaKitten · 20/07/2023 22:05

LittleBearPad · 20/07/2023 22:02

Tbh gender or sex reveal parties are naff as fuck.

But at least don’t be prudish.

I agree they are naff, so if people want to be prudish like everyone else who throws these parties then who cares? Is it worth being mad about?

Lefteyetwitch · 20/07/2023 22:06

FanFanFanFanYam · 20/07/2023 22:03

It’d be a more pressing question to ask why people have gender reveal parties full stop.

Because outside the miserable world of MN there are humans inhabiting this planet who like to be happy.
Happy with their families.
Happy celebrating with their families
Happy celebrating the excitement of new life with their families.

Overall if you're going to be miserable just don't fucking go.

LulooLemon · 20/07/2023 22:06

@EmpressaurusOfCats Absolutely!

Its astonishing that both pregnancy gender reveal parties and the 'choose-your-own-gender' transgender movement have boomed in popularity at the same time.

The first is basically saying that your gender is fixed - and it's pink fluffy air headed stuff for girls, blue manly stuff for boys.

The second is saying choose whichever gender you want.

Both are huge backward steps for women.

Lamelie · 20/07/2023 22:06

x2boys · 20/07/2023 21:50

But back.I the real world only mums net cares so 🤷

Good luck with that when you’re paid less because pay rates are based on gender not sex, when your mum receives intimate care from a man with a beard, when you can’t get hrt because it’s gone to self id’ing men, when your daughter misses out on a sports scholarship and your sister misses out on cervical screening because it’s too expensive to invite everyone and problematic to invite women. No domestic violence refuges because they can’t exclude men and don’t go to prison unless you want to share a cell with a rapist.

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 22:07

That’s what came up when I asked about gender so it has nothing to do with anatomical sex just sexual preference hence my statement you can’t have a gender reveal party as your baby is too young to make a decision @TeaKitten

Why use gender when you mean Sex ?
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whereaw · 20/07/2023 22:08

To be honest, I actually think it's a good thing - there are two sexes, male and female. The average person knows that and also ascribes gender to mean the same thing- ie there are two, male or female, masculine or feminine. It's just proof that people ultimately aren't blind or stupid and can see the distinction between male or female, no matter what pronouns a person is displaying or what they are wearing or how they try to present themselves. The 'new' meaning of gender is just total nonsense and would be better termed as personality, not an identity.

Parsley1234 · 20/07/2023 22:09

@Lamelie yep

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