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Cancer charity coffee mornings should be banned

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Luxell934 · 20/07/2023 16:12

So someone on instagram, who usually gives advice to new mums on positive birthing, posted today that she though coffee mornings for cancer charities should be banned. Why? because she thinks cancer loves sugar, cancer grows from sugar and people shouldn't be giving sugar to cancer patients. She said instead of eating cakes and biscuits they should be helping cancer patients to educate themselves to change their diets to beat the disease.

My own personal opinion is that she is spreading complete misinformation to her followers not based on any actual factual studies.

For a start these coffee mornings are not held in the hospital rooms of cancer patients to feed them cake. They’re fundraising events often in school halls, offices, community centres or hospitals as a support system where people are coming together to support and raise money for those diagnosed with cancer. They don't target cancer patients, it's more about the general public raising funds for cancer nurses and research. Cancer coffee mornings are just one of the ways charities fund raise. They also do lots of fitness based ones, like the muddy 5k run, race for life, some do walking based ones. Although not everyone would be able to do something physical for charity, so they might choose the coffee morning. Let's face it, cake is nice right, if it was advertised as a green tea and carrot stick morning, it wouldn't be as popular.

Yes I agree sugar isn't healthy for us. We should all reduce our refined sugar intake. Excess sugar can lead to weight gain which can cause serious health issues including diabetes and obesity which could be a contributing factor to some cancers. BUT cancer is not caused by sugar alone, and cancer can't be cured by cutting out sugar. Cancer also can't be cured by diet alone. I've heard the stories of people saying "My husband cured his stage 4 lung cancer by diet alone!" Right.

There is also no actual evidence that cancer cells grow from sugar. All cells, including cancer cells need glucose (blood sugar) to survive. Glucose comes from any carbohydrate, refined carbs (cake, bread) and unrefined carbs (fruit, veg). Glucose is critical for our cells to survive and function properly. Not consuming sufficient carbohydrates can lead to the breakdown of protein stores in our body, which can contribute to muscle loss and possibly malnutrition. There is no possible way for our bodies to stop cancer cells from getting the glucose and only giving it to the healthy cells.

So should cancer coffee mornings be banned?

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Drews · 20/07/2023 16:13

There such things as sugar free cakes.

Bootoagoose123 · 20/07/2023 16:15

I know exactly who you mean and I unfollowed her as soon as I saw this post. Was really disappointed and totally agree with you.

Chesneyhawkes1 · 20/07/2023 16:15

Well my cancer wasn't caused by sugar - so I'd like a coffee and a slice of cake 🍰

Babadook76 · 20/07/2023 16:15

Of course they shouldn’t. I don’t know why you’ve given one persons daft comment an iota of headspace though, let alone wrote an essay on it. Just ignore her

Luxell934 · 20/07/2023 16:18

Babadook76 · 20/07/2023 16:15

Of course they shouldn’t. I don’t know why you’ve given one persons daft comment an iota of headspace though, let alone wrote an essay on it. Just ignore her

You're right but it annoyed me. She has a lot of followers who may be influenced by her. My own mother died from cancer. Plus I thought it would be interesting topic to debate here.

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LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:18

Good lord your post is horrendously wrong about the links between sugar and cancer.

When you get a scan to check for cancer they inject you irradiated GLUCOSE because guess where the glucose goes first?!

I suggest you look at the work of Otto Warburg and Thomas Seyfried.

She is 100% right that sugar feeds cancer.

vodkaredbullgirl · 20/07/2023 16:20

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:18

Good lord your post is horrendously wrong about the links between sugar and cancer.

When you get a scan to check for cancer they inject you irradiated GLUCOSE because guess where the glucose goes first?!

I suggest you look at the work of Otto Warburg and Thomas Seyfried.

She is 100% right that sugar feeds cancer.

Are you her?

ForeverFriendsAndPierrot · 20/07/2023 16:21

Which instagrammer was this?

tt9 · 20/07/2023 16:21

your friend sounds like she is a couple of cherries short of a fruitcake.

while sugar intake has been linked to a range of illnesses ... banning coffee mornings to raise money is ridiculous. not to mention, if someone is undergoing chemotherapy, suffering from loss of appetite and generally having a shit time... if they fancy a bit of cake - let them eat it!

I really wish people would stop policing what others are eating.

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:22

I don’t know who the post is about actually. I don’t have cancer I guess I’m not her.

What I do know is that I work in this field so probably know more about cancer as a metabolic disease than the average mumsnetter.

vodkaredbullgirl · 20/07/2023 16:24

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:22

I don’t know who the post is about actually. I don’t have cancer I guess I’m not her.

What I do know is that I work in this field so probably know more about cancer as a metabolic disease than the average mumsnetter.

Enlighten us

VeridicalVagabond · 20/07/2023 16:25

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:22

I don’t know who the post is about actually. I don’t have cancer I guess I’m not her.

What I do know is that I work in this field so probably know more about cancer as a metabolic disease than the average mumsnetter.

"I work in this field"

Aka internet speak for "I Googled it"

vegantubbycustard · 20/07/2023 16:26

You seem more "misinformed" than her.

Luxell934 · 20/07/2023 16:26

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:18

Good lord your post is horrendously wrong about the links between sugar and cancer.

When you get a scan to check for cancer they inject you irradiated GLUCOSE because guess where the glucose goes first?!

I suggest you look at the work of Otto Warburg and Thomas Seyfried.

She is 100% right that sugar feeds cancer.

Yes I have heard about them injecting glucose before a PET scan. I thought it was because cancer cells are more active so are more likely to need the glucose?

Please educate me if I'm wrong. I'd actually like to be educated about this.

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LorraineInSpain · 20/07/2023 16:27

When my parent was having cancer treatment the staff kept bringing cake round. I imagine if it was really that bad for people with cancer they wouldn’t have done that.

Timeforabiscuit · 20/07/2023 16:27

If you work in this area @LMNT I take it you will have no issue with linking to high quality, peer reviewed, evidenced research (on humans please and preferably cochran systematic reviwed)?

For context, I am currently sat with my terminally ill husband on his second cancer recurrence, and cake has its place.

Luxell934 · 20/07/2023 16:28

vegantubbycustard · 20/07/2023 16:26

You seem more "misinformed" than her.

Genuinely would like to be educated on this topic so please feel free to inform me.

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tt9 · 20/07/2023 16:29

LMNT · 20/07/2023 16:22

I don’t know who the post is about actually. I don’t have cancer I guess I’m not her.

What I do know is that I work in this field so probably know more about cancer as a metabolic disease than the average mumsnetter.

what exactly do you do@LMNT ? please describe your clinical role...

Ponderingwindow · 20/07/2023 16:30

My cancer was caused by an autoimmune disease. There is nothing I could have done. the attitude that I could have prevented it if I had just been a more perfect person and eaten better is really offensive.

tt9 · 20/07/2023 16:30

Luxell934 · 20/07/2023 16:26

Yes I have heard about them injecting glucose before a PET scan. I thought it was because cancer cells are more active so are more likely to need the glucose?

Please educate me if I'm wrong. I'd actually like to be educated about this.

you are not wrong@Luxell934 . that's exactly why it's done

Superher · 20/07/2023 16:30

I do think it’s a bit odd, eating sugar is a cause of cancer. Albeit one that people love and often so far too much of, much like drinking.

That said, one piece of cake doesn’t cause cancer, it’s all part of a much more systemic issue.

MillicentTrilbyHiggins · 20/07/2023 16:31

If sugar feeds cancer then surely my old school friend who used to have about 15 sugars in a coffee should be long dead.

And my Grandma who had a very healthy diet and barely used sugar for anything would still be alive watching her great-grandchildren grow up?

Aquamarine1029 · 20/07/2023 16:31

My own personal opinion...

And there you go. You have your opinion, she has hers. You don't have to agree, and you don't have to read or watch her posts. Everyone who doesn't share your opinion should be censored? Come on, now.

2bazookas · 20/07/2023 16:32

Chesneyhawkes1 · 20/07/2023 16:15

Well my cancer wasn't caused by sugar - so I'd like a coffee and a slice of cake 🍰

I had cancer, ate cake and survived. I am pretty sure it was cake that cured me.

EpiDee · 20/07/2023 16:33

I am a doctor, albeit not an oncologist, but there is no direct link between sugar intake and increased risk of cancer, and certainly no evidence changing diet will help beat cancer.

An indirect link however would be that increased sugar intake leads to obesity, obesity is linked to many different cancers.

The odd piece of cake here and there never hurt anyone, and you are right, it is nice, and can cheer people up. I agree OP, her advice is totally incorrect.

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