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Friend topless in front of DH

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cakehoover123 · 20/07/2023 14:53

Went to a friend's house - just her, me and DH. I went to the loo. When I came back in the room, she was breastfeeding her 8-month-old.

She'd removed whole top and bra on both sides, so was topless, with the non-feeding boob not covered up by baby. DH was doing a decent job of keeping his eyes on her face though 🤣

AIBU to think that's a bit odd?

I know I can't ever comment to her. Just wondered what to make of it privately, especially since she's always been a wee bit flirty with DH.

But I've never breastfed... so maybe this is normal, or maybe I'm just a prude. Would you breastfeed alone with a friend's DH? And if so would you cover up more than this?

OP posts:
AppleTurnover1000Degrees · 20/07/2023 20:44

StarlightLady · 20/07/2023 20:13

For goodness sake, she was feeding a child in her own home in what she considered was the most practical way. What is the big deal? Women have breasts and they feed babies with them.

I go topless at the beach when with friends and sometimes their husbands, nobody is scarred for life.

Did you sit half naked in front of your friends breastfeeding because your friends might say Starlight Lady loves getting her tits out at any opportunity.

Hibiscrubbed · 20/07/2023 20:53

truthhurts23 · 20/07/2023 19:24

It’s not the breastfeeding part that people are sexualising , she whipped off her T-shirt and bra in front of Op husband so he got a good look of both her exposed breast before she started feeding her baby

Of course that’s the issue. But some posters are ignoring that because it doesn’t suit them/their super cool agenda.

321user123 · 20/07/2023 20:53

nonmerci99 · 20/07/2023 15:03

What a weird selection of comments. If you think this is flirtatious, that is on you for sexualising breastfeeding. Some women do not have qualms about breastfeeding in front of others -- that does not mean this friend is "flaunting" or trying to attract your husband by feeding her baby.

If it really bothers you, you could talk to her about it, but she will probably think you are the odd one. You were in her house, after all, and she has an infant.

Have you ever seen anyone take EVERYTHING off to breastfeed and leave the other breast uncovered? Because I haven’t nor have I heard of it.
To top it off the friend is known to be flirtatious with OPs DH.. this is fishy to me.

I would normally not blink at anyone breastfeeding, but someone is making a show of it..

Jumpingthruhoops · 20/07/2023 20:57

Carpediemmakeitcount · 20/07/2023 20:33

Have you done it yourself before is that why you have that opinion would you go topless in front of friends or family?

No, I wouldn't - and I'm not totally on board with breastfeeding in full view either.

Like some of the comments on here, women will say: 'They're just breasts' and 'I wouldn't want my head covered to eat my dinner' and not think twice about revealing their breasts in the company of strangers - ie, in a food court or similar - which I personally have seen many times. But now it's someone's actual DH, there's an issue.

My point is, any man could be someone's husband. So what's the difference!?
We either accept breastfeeding in society - without conditions - or we don't?

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/07/2023 21:02

Jumpingthruhoops · 20/07/2023 20:57

No, I wouldn't - and I'm not totally on board with breastfeeding in full view either.

Like some of the comments on here, women will say: 'They're just breasts' and 'I wouldn't want my head covered to eat my dinner' and not think twice about revealing their breasts in the company of strangers - ie, in a food court or similar - which I personally have seen many times. But now it's someone's actual DH, there's an issue.

My point is, any man could be someone's husband. So what's the difference!?
We either accept breastfeeding in society - without conditions - or we don't?

If someone took her top and bra off in a food court or similar, I would have exactly the same reaction. I find it odd that any woman would feel comfortable sitting there with it all hanging out, and it really isn't necessary.

Breastfeeding in public is completely normal though. Yes, people might occasionally flash a breast in the process, and I don't see that as a big deal at all...feeding a baby is a perfectly normal, natural process. Sitting there half naked is a bit different!

wheresmymojo · 20/07/2023 21:09

Mummy08m · 20/07/2023 15:10

Yabu and I'm so glad my own friends aren't so judgemental. Breastfeeding topless is my default way of doing it when I'm in my own home. Sure I might make a token effort to pull a cardigan halfway across if I have visitors but if it gapes open then so what. Babies wriggle and it usually takes two arms to breastfeed, I don't have a third to pull clothes back over myself.

Through lockdown we did weekly zoom evenings with our friends and I was breastfeeding throughout and probably exposed myself every time. None of them ever batted an eyelid.

I think someone would have to be a bit creepy or at least kinky to find a mother breastfeeding sexy.

There are whole websites dedicated to this as a fetish.

Zanatdy · 20/07/2023 21:12

I’d have asked if he minded, but I’d have been discreet. When I bf in front of my dad (when I went to stay at their house) I asked if he minded and he didn’t, but I kept discreet as I did in front of anyone, men and women. That’s a bit odd

wheresmymojo · 20/07/2023 21:12

Am I the only person who would be weirded out by the reverse scenario then?

If I was visiting a friend and my DH went to the toilet and he chose that moment to whip his top off in the lounge and then just sat there naked to the waist I'd be weirded the fuck out. Confused

Is that normal to other people?

Because if not, I'm not sure the comments about 'why is it fine for men to be topless' apply...

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:17

Carpediemmakeitcount · 20/07/2023 20:03

He might have a boob fetish and she knew this?

Wow so now people are trying to steal others husbands while breastfeeding! You must be a real misogynist if you think most women who just become mums are plotting to entice other men ! No women I know ever used breastfeeding to anything even remotely sexualising . Get a grip !

Jumpingthruhoops · 20/07/2023 21:19

Nuttkin · 20/07/2023 20:40

I find comments like this curious. Women are constantly told they should feel comfortable breastfeeding their child anywhere and not feel they have to 'cover up' themselves or their baby.

There is a vast middle ground between forcing a woman into another roof or to be covered in a shawl - and sitting there with your entire breasts out areolas and all, in front of people who were unprepared.

But that's not for us to decide.

Women have been told that they can - and should - feel comfortable BFing whenever, wherever and however they choose without feeling awkward.
So they do that. Often in public, in full view of other people's (unprepared) husbands, who are NOT allowed to object.

However, it appears we've now established that there IS a boundary after all. I'm saying that boundary should be respected whether it's friends OR strangers!

wheresmymojo · 20/07/2023 21:19

5128gap · 20/07/2023 15:48

I'm assuming OP that you must have strong suspicions that this friend is sexually interested in your husband? Coupled with a track record of inappropriate exhibitionist tendencies?
If not, I can't think for a moment why anyone could interpret her (albeit unconventional) BF style as grasping the opportunity of your toilet break to entice your husband with the breast that didn't have her child attached to it.
I'm also assuming your DH may be rather inexperienced at life and/or immature.
If a man is uncomfortable because a woman is BF, he doesn't need to sit there squirming ljke a ten year old whose never seen a breast before. He simply need say 'I'll give you some privacy' and leave the room. Maybe teach him that?

I'm a 40 year old woman and would be reasonably uncomfortable with a friend getting both tits out.

I mean, I'd live but I'd find it bloody awkward TBH

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:20

Hibiscrubbed · 20/07/2023 20:53

Of course that’s the issue. But some posters are ignoring that because it doesn’t suit them/their super cool agenda.

I suppose you lock your husband at home and he is not allowed to holiday abroad ? Because in France , Portugal, Spain , Italy , lots of women do too less on the beach .
if this so how she is comfortable breastfeeding then he should get a grip as should the OP , she is home . What a misogynist view of the world that things must revolve around what men see fit

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:22

Zanatdy · 20/07/2023 21:12

I’d have asked if he minded, but I’d have been discreet. When I bf in front of my dad (when I went to stay at their house) I asked if he minded and he didn’t, but I kept discreet as I did in front of anyone, men and women. That’s a bit odd

To be fair, if you asked anyone if they minded you bf-ing, no one is going to say yes.

LittleApartmentOnThePrairie · 20/07/2023 21:24

I started to see my body as just a baby making and feeding machine. I completely forgot that breasts are considered sexy. They were just functional and I quite often wouldn’t notice if forgotten to cover up after DC had finished. It embarrassed others more than me. I would cover up once I realised though.

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:24

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:20

I suppose you lock your husband at home and he is not allowed to holiday abroad ? Because in France , Portugal, Spain , Italy , lots of women do too less on the beach .
if this so how she is comfortable breastfeeding then he should get a grip as should the OP , she is home . What a misogynist view of the world that things must revolve around what men see fit

Seeing multiple women who are strangers topless on a beach is different from seeing your friend topless in her home whilst have a conversation with her. I am surprised you cannot tell the difference.

Pickingmyselfup · 20/07/2023 21:26

It is unusual to sit with your top half completely exposed even when breastfeeding (in public anyway) I have never seen a breastfeeding woman with both her boobs even half out let alone all of the top half uncovered. I would definitely be a bit umm this is a bit odd if even one of my close friends did it unless they were newly breastfeeding and still getting to grips with it.

Breastfeeding your child, absolutely fine but there doesn't need to be a performance over it. I didn't breastfeed so I don't know but I would assume by 8 months it's top down, boob out, in mouth.

I think it's also weird that she chose the one moment OP was out of the room to do it. Of course it could just be a coincidence but if she has been flirty before I'm not surprised it's being given a bit more thought. It's the combination of it all, if it was one isolated incident then it wouldn't be half as weird (although still a bit unusual!)

I wouldn't give it any more thought though. At best she just didn't think, at worst she's an attention seeker hence the flirtiness.

I definitely would be a bit weirded out if one of my husbands friends chose the moment he left the room to take his top off as well!

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:26

I should add I absolutely love that my hubby would not find this odd or uncomfortable at all , he would probably ask her if she needed water or a drink lol 😂 .
He came from a family with lots of women who mostly breastfeed and I breasted so if any of my friends is around or we are with friends he doesn’t even bat an eyelid .
I should I add he is a boob guy but as he would say himself , boobs as object if desire are a thing and a woman breastfeeding are 2 very different things .
Maybe people need to normalise breastfeeding more .

Zanatdy · 20/07/2023 21:28

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:22

To be fair, if you asked anyone if they minded you bf-ing, no one is going to say yes.

Well my dad would have if he did mind. He wasn’t one for mincing his words. But others unlikely to. But it’s a courtesy at least

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/07/2023 21:29

There are hundreds of tribes in Africa where female toplessness is part of traditional clothing and who would disagree with you. Breasts are sexualised in some cultures, not all.

Well no, breasts are secondary sexual characteristics in humans. Shame and sexuality aren't the same in many countries. Just because it's sexy, doesn't mean it needs covered up.

Basically in a lot of other mammals there isn't a breast as such, just a nipple. The idea being that when arses weren't on show as for most primates, when we started walking upright, breaths developed as a secondary characteristic. Essentially, look at my boobs, I have this much extra energy and vitality to waste. Just like peacock tails and baboons arses.

Lots of body parts have multiple uses, doesn't mean they aren't also evolved to be sexually attractive.

Jumpingthruhoops · 20/07/2023 21:29

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/07/2023 21:02

If someone took her top and bra off in a food court or similar, I would have exactly the same reaction. I find it odd that any woman would feel comfortable sitting there with it all hanging out, and it really isn't necessary.

Breastfeeding in public is completely normal though. Yes, people might occasionally flash a breast in the process, and I don't see that as a big deal at all...feeding a baby is a perfectly normal, natural process. Sitting there half naked is a bit different!

Like I said, I agree... but I know of many women who do not.
I was once sitting in a shopping centre food court where a woman with twins was sat, top fully off, nursing a baby on each breast. And they weren't exactly small breasts, so I'm in no doubt everyone - including people's 'husband's - saw. I know mine certainly did!

Let's, for argument's sake, say that OP's friend was the woman I saw that day.
If it's OK for her to openly BF in front of my husband - why not the OP's husband?

That's my point.

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:31

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:24

Seeing multiple women who are strangers topless on a beach is different from seeing your friend topless in her home whilst have a conversation with her. I am surprised you cannot tell the difference.

The difference is she is feeding a child !! Not doing strip tese ffs 🤦🏻‍♀️

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:32

If it's OK for her to openly BF in front of my husband - why not the OP's husband?

It is not ok for her to have her top fully off to bf in public.

Carpediemmakeitcount · 20/07/2023 21:32

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:26

I should add I absolutely love that my hubby would not find this odd or uncomfortable at all , he would probably ask her if she needed water or a drink lol 😂 .
He came from a family with lots of women who mostly breastfeed and I breasted so if any of my friends is around or we are with friends he doesn’t even bat an eyelid .
I should I add he is a boob guy but as he would say himself , boobs as object if desire are a thing and a woman breastfeeding are 2 very different things .
Maybe people need to normalise breastfeeding more .

Breastfeeding will probably take off now looking at the prices of formula milk. Breastfeeding would be the cheaper option. Before Brexit women preferred formula over breastfeeding. Health visitors was trying to promote more women to breastfeed and even hired breastfeeding consultants to help mother's.

blueshoes · 20/07/2023 21:33

Cucucucu · 20/07/2023 21:31

The difference is she is feeding a child !! Not doing strip tese ffs 🤦🏻‍♀️

Not sure why you mention strip tease. How is that relevant?

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