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to think female newsreaders and presenters shouldn't wear make up

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orangeleavesinautumn · 19/07/2023 09:03

|I am absolutely sick of seeing men on TV with normal, natural looking faces, and the women sitting next to them with their faces smeared with gunk. Why can't women show normal, natural looking faces on TV too? What a horrendous disgusting message we are passing on to young girls. "You need to waste time and money smearing gunk on your face to be allowed to be seen in public"

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pineapplecrushed · 20/07/2023 23:24

yes yabu

wishingstaar12 · 20/07/2023 23:26

yes. you are being unreasonable. would you want to go on live TV with bags under your eyes looking like a bag of shit? if it bothers you don't watch. or start a petition.

Blossomtoes · 20/07/2023 23:29

Indigotree · 20/07/2023 23:24

Can you genuinely not see what's sexist about it? It's so very extremely sexist it's hard to know where to begin if you are being honest rather than disingenuous.

So you can’t explain it. Thought not.

Countingdowntodecember · 20/07/2023 23:30

I think you need to respect women’s choice to wear whatever makeup they choose. If someone likes blue eyeshadow, who are you to say it’s ’ugly’ and they shouldn’t be allowed to wear it?

happygertie · 20/07/2023 23:32

What if the female presenters want to wear make up???

Devora13 · 20/07/2023 23:42

There are a shedload of products/stuff that we are conditioned into buying that are far more harmful to our environment and society than make up. Look around the world, from both a current and a historical perspective, and it becomes obvious that it is far from unusual for people of any gender to use different materials to alter their appearance.

I don't work in TV so I don't know what the response would be if a female presenter said they just wanted a natural look make up, but I certainly see celebs on TV who choose to play it down.

Isn't it a bit of a vicious circle, like consumerism? Until enough people make it obvious that they don't want to buy into this stuff, it will keep coming. And conversely, people are presented with this stuff and think it's what they need.

WandaWonder · 20/07/2023 23:50

So because teenagers watch screens with celebrities? who wear makeup and have trout lips, fake tan, can't frown this suddenly means they have to do it?

Maybe parents should teach their teenager's to think for themselves more and just because it is on screen does not make it real? it is not rocket science

Whodunitme · 20/07/2023 23:52

ZeroFuchsGiven · 19/07/2023 09:05

I knew it would be you before I even clicked on the thread.

Me too! 😂

adriftinadenofvipers · 21/07/2023 00:00

I think female presenters should do whatever they damn well want.

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 00:01

wishingstaar12 · 20/07/2023 23:26

yes. you are being unreasonable. would you want to go on live TV with bags under your eyes looking like a bag of shit? if it bothers you don't watch. or start a petition.

so a woman without make up looks like a bag of shit?

This is exactly my point, this thread is peppered with genuine posts, from women insisting that women cant appear in public without make up because women without make up look "rough" look like "shit" etc. These people genuinely believe this. They have been so deeply conditioned into believing that a natural woman's face is not acceptable to be seen in public. - and yet other posters try to insist that we are not as oppressed as women in other coutries who have to cover their faces when they go out..... and we are surrounded by women who believe they have to cover their faces to go out!

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Ukrainebaby23 · 21/07/2023 00:05

I used to do the whole smeared on gunk thing then in my late 20s I discovered decent skin care and found I no longer needed to hide my skin.

Very happy that I rarely feel the need to smear on the gunk, though I do use a long ladting lip colour as I think it looks nice and also seems to protect a little.

Blossomtoes · 21/07/2023 00:05

They have been so deeply conditioned into believing that a natural woman's face is not acceptable to be seen in public.

More bollocks. I have fully functioning mirrors in my house. The evidence of my own eyes tells me I look better with make up than without. Nothing to do with conditioning and everything to do with preference. Not that my face or any other woman’s is any of your business.

OMGitsnotgood · 21/07/2023 00:19

OP you insulted my intelligence on the moisturiser thread and now you are insulting the intelligence of. all female newsreaders and presenters.

I can see where you're coming from, up to a point, but really I do hope as a teacher you're not as dismissive of students' opinions when they differ from yours and as rude about them as you have been on threads recently.

You don't agree with skin care or use of makeup, that doesn't mean that every woman who does enjoy those products is doing so because they can't think for themselves. I agree that women shouldn't feel that they HAVE to wear makeup to conform. I wear makeup but my adult daughter wears very little most of the time. She hates lip fillers, even tho several of her friends have tried to persuade her to have them. She's an independent thinker who has the intelligence and strength of character to make her own decisions. This is what we as parents and teachers should be encouraging.

CallieQ · 21/07/2023 00:51

All people on tv wear make up Confused

TheCatterall · 21/07/2023 01:03

Thread reported. Let’s stop feeding the troll. She really needs a new hobby.

mathanxiety · 21/07/2023 03:11

Indigotree · 20/07/2023 23:23

I believe people should be able to wear what they like or nothing if they like. The point is that it's clearly a dress code or in-house style on news programmes, which ought to be serious, intelligent programmes rather than promoting sex inequalities.

@Indigotree

I want to know why you think makeup and serious intelligence are mutually exclusive.

Augustus40 · 21/07/2023 04:41

I think women look better nicely made up on TV. London based presenters also look more polished than provincial female presenters who often could do with a decent hair stylist too.

Nutterjacks · 21/07/2023 06:18

I wear makeup everyday and let me tell you OP, I look much better with it than I do without it. I wasn't influenced by tv presenters, and social media wasn't around when I was young, it was my mother. She wore it every day too. If it makes you feel better about yourself then that's a good thing surely.
It's personal choice for women (and some men ie: Adam Lambert, Boy George).

BarbaraofSeville · 21/07/2023 06:33

I wear makeup everyday and let me tell you OP, I look much better with it than I do without it

Make up makes you look different. Whether or not you look 'better' is subjective.

jamdonut · 21/07/2023 06:49

I’ve always thought our newsreaders look pretty natural, compared to their American counterparts. And I’m sure the make-up is preferable to looking “washed-out”under the lights!

Kiitos · 21/07/2023 07:03

I don’t think the idea of blue eyeshadow is to make anyone think one’s eyelids are naturally that colour. It’s just to complement or enhance some looks
<misses point of thread 😂>

orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:07

TheCatterall · 21/07/2023 01:03

Thread reported. Let’s stop feeding the troll. She really needs a new hobby.

pointing out the oppression of women happening right in front of your nose and you not recognising it makes me a troll? What does that say about you?

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orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:09

Nutterjacks · 21/07/2023 06:18

I wear makeup everyday and let me tell you OP, I look much better with it than I do without it. I wasn't influenced by tv presenters, and social media wasn't around when I was young, it was my mother. She wore it every day too. If it makes you feel better about yourself then that's a good thing surely.
It's personal choice for women (and some men ie: Adam Lambert, Boy George).

It doesn't make you look "better". It makes you conform to what society thinks a woman should look like.

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orangeleavesinautumn · 21/07/2023 07:11

mathanxiety · 21/07/2023 03:11

@Indigotree

I want to know why you think makeup and serious intelligence are mutually exclusive.

They are not mutually exclusive when a seriously intelligent woman understands that she has to smear the gunk in order to conform and be accepted.

What is mutually exclusive, is serious intelligence and not realising this make up tyranny is a form of oppression

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Bellajac · 21/07/2023 07:13

I love wearing make up. I wear it because it makes me look better. I also love not wearing make up if I choose not to.

I can't understand why you're getting het up about this.

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