Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?

[Earnerlesr]

65k.

And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

This is starting to sound a bit like the part in Sense and Sensibility when the Dashwood sisters and their mother are left a very small allowance to live on following their father's death because everything else went to their brother. Their brother and his wife reasoned that really, they'd be far better off and able to send some of their allowance to him, because they would only need a small house, wouldn't keep many servants or a carriage, and wouldn't go out in society much.

I think how much disposable income you have is obviously all relative to your individual circumstances, taking into account required outgoings and optional outgoings, but whether you're actually classed as a high earner (in for example, the U.K.) is simply absolute (albeit there may be different 'definitions').

Nobody 'needs' to have a large mortgage and send their three children to private school though so I don't think that makes someone not a high earner just because they have extremely high outgoings, it just means they wouldn't have as much disposable income / feel they need to maintain their high earnings in order to maintain their current lifestyle.

No it’s not high. It’s average where I live (SE). Most professionals are on 100k+ here.

A joint income of £120k is huge. Not low end. Its in the top 10% in the country.

I think people on here have very skewed ideas of what "well off" means. Surely being in the top 10% of earners is high?

I didn’t assume that at all, which is why I asked the poster’s age and current job… to gauge what might be possible. If she came back and said she was 59 and a SAHM to 4 SEN DC then dentistry is obviously not something I’d suggest. If she’s 29, one DC, no degree but did ok in school and been working in admin ever since then there are so many options, and law/barrister could be a good one for example as the qualifications can be done part time. School careers advice is crap for the most part and many people really don’t know what options are out there for them.

I googled what's a high earner in UK and it said "£70,000 - you are a high rate tax payer and earn double the country's average". I agree.
It's completely irrelevant ant if you earn £100,000 in London and still struggle because of your outgoings. This isn't about how much disposable income you have or how much you spend - it's how much you earn. Anything above £70,000 is a high salary. Whether you spend it all in bills and only have a fiver left each month, isn't the point.

I would class anything as being on the higher tax bracket as a high earner (45-50k and above?) But I live in the north. I always do a bit of an eye roll when posters say 100k isn't much.

This is very interesting and really explains the very different viewpoints on this thread.

The difference in London is overplayed as far as I can tell

There are always choices about where to live , how much to spend on "essentials"

Which is, again, nothing to do with this thread.

But are most people professionals?
Im in a really expensive bit of surrey and even here most people arent professionals.

We just take up less space cos our cars and houses are smaller.

We just take up less space cos our cars and houses are smaller.

This made me snort like a pig 🤣

I saw a thread earlier where someone was earning 28,000 and was basically called a slacker and advised to get a better paying job to pay their way !

@Witsend101 😂I would have invited that 'lovely' person to try working in my care job where I average 50 hours a week on less than 28k and see if they could last a week. It must be very nice for someone to be sat in their ivory tower WFH/Office job looking down on the "slackers" looking after their elderly/disabled relatives

🙄 the point I am trying to make is that hundreds of thousands of people are in everyday normal jobs and can manage fine.

Without having the 'snobs' think that if you earn less than a certain amount you're living in squalor.

The thread title is "Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?" And the OP references £60,000.

Your point has no relevance to the thread.

£120k+ in my eyes is high earner

Tell that to everybody else who is slagging off 'low' earners and saying they cannot possibly survive on such a 'low' wage, especially in London ...

Point to your evidence that £100k is "average" for SE England???
Average amongst your social network possibility 🤔 but for the area? No way.
I live in the SE and readily accept there are high earners but it illustrates perfectly how invisible the vast majority of people are to those whose who think £100k is "average" 😠

The average warnings are c25k
Of course that's a high earner.
Only on Mumsnet is that a low salary 😂😂😂

*earnings

Jfc get some perspective

Average ft salary in the UK is 40.3k

The comment about the invisibility of the majority to high earners is spot on.

All those people emptying bins, delivering mail, serving them at the corner shop, looking after their kids at nursery, cleaning their house, and doing all the countless other jobs that just seem to happen around them are discounted as they ponder their high earning friends, and the colleagues sitting above them on the ladder at work and then conclude that really earning £120k plus is pretty ordinary around their neck of the woods!

Also, I know a lot of people doing some really important jobs;
A mental health nurse
Several careworkers
A Civil servants making life-changing decisions on visa applications
A public sector enforcement officer
Primary teacher
Junior cyber engineer

Every single one of these people I have mentioned earns under 30k. Literally less than 30k for everyone I know working in these extremely important roles.
Then we have idiots like Mason Greenwood getting paid that per week/month

That's skewed by a few ultra, ultra high earners, though.

The average ft salary in London is 57.4k