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Is this classed as a ‘high earner’?

512 replies

Earnerlesr · 17/07/2023 22:34

65k.

And if it’s not, what figure starts to be classed as a high earner?

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MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 18/07/2023 10:52

According to the Office for National Statistics, the top 20% of the UK has an average disposable income (after income tax, NI and Council Tax) of £66k per month. So a gross salary of £65k is not the top band - whatever it feels like to those earning way less. Chart here: ONS average income

Average household income, UK - Office for National Statistics

Final estimates of average household income in the UK, with analysis of how these measures have changed over time, accounting for inflation and household composition.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/householddisposableincomeandinequality/financialyearending2022#glossary

SittingOnTheChair · 18/07/2023 10:52

My friend earns roughly 250k. He's bloody miserable, can't do anything with his life as it would mean a much lower income.

Mademetoxic · 18/07/2023 10:53

Rambl · 18/07/2023 10:48

@Mademetoxic I have clients who contact me to this day and are on waiting lists for when I return. I would be fine.

Plus in the event of splitting up, DP would have to pay me a lot of maintenance, so I am sure I would be okay!

I just could never rely on someone else earning money. Nobody knows what's round the corner. It's always good to be self sufficient

Mademetoxic · 18/07/2023 10:55

Getoutofherenow · 18/07/2023 10:50

No early retirement for you then!

Definitely would not want to be a lady of leisure.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 18/07/2023 10:56

backtogrey · 18/07/2023 08:04

Yeah, lots of my friends are on megabucks. A couple are on 7 figure salaries.

@backtogrey

Bit measly... I have at LEAST 10 friends on 8 and 9 figure salaries. One man bought his wife a jetranger helicopter for her 35th birthday last week. She was a bit miffed as he spent much more last year. Bought her an 8 seater private plane. Still, I think she should be grateful. DH only bought me a 30ft long yacht for my birthday in the Spring. Sad

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 18/07/2023 10:59

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 18/07/2023 10:52

According to the Office for National Statistics, the top 20% of the UK has an average disposable income (after income tax, NI and Council Tax) of £66k per month. So a gross salary of £65k is not the top band - whatever it feels like to those earning way less. Chart here: ONS average income

Gosh thank you... that makes interesting reading Smile As there are actually so few on very high salaries, it appears that every single person earning over 6 figures a year must be on mumsnet - They MUST be because of the high amount of posters claiming they, their partner, and all their friends are on super dooooper salaries.

Commentsonly · 18/07/2023 11:00

I’ve just realised I’m poor! 😭

Well at least among the mumsnetters

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 18/07/2023 11:01

SD1978 · 18/07/2023 10:16

You're in the top 10% of income for the UK with that much. But on MN, you're a plan who needs to make a roast chicken last 10meals...........everyone here is on 6 figures, with a husband doing a niche hobby........

And he always has a LONG commute. Wink

EmmaChizzett · 18/07/2023 11:03

According to the Office for National Statistics, the top 20% of the UK has an average disposable income (after income tax, NI and Council Tax) of £66k per month.

That high?

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 11:06

spir1t · 18/07/2023 10:47

I suppose outside London £65k might be considered a 'high earner' but it's very region-specific.

Where I live, an ex-council house is £1m plus, a one bed flat over a shop £500k plus and a 4 bed Victorian semi over £3m. Whole streets of houses for £5m plus, some houses being advertised now for £14m. Most people use independent schools, have cleaners / nannies etc. Often other properties too. And this is not Knightsbridge or the super-expensive London locations. That's another level again. This is Zone 2 and there are many areas like this. So £65k would not go far at all, no.

This sums up the subjectivity of people living in their bubbles.
You say in your area "most people" use nannies and cleaners... As if the nannies, and cleaners (and shop assistants, uber drivers, road cleaners etc.) are not also people earning their living in the exact same location! They won't be living in the million pound houses but they will be just down the road earning less than £65K

PerspiringElizabeth · 18/07/2023 11:06

Qbish · 17/07/2023 22:37

Why the laugh face? £100,000 in London doesn't get you far, is certainly not a high earner. Same in the home counties.

Oh please. I’m in the Home Counties, 3 kids, I’m a SAHM, manage perfectly well on £100k.

WomanUnknown · 18/07/2023 11:06

Hellocatshome · 17/07/2023 22:39

For tax paying reasons yes that it a high earner who is taxed at the higher rate. Mumsnet as a whole is very much not living in the real world when it comes to these things though so you will get some interesting answers.

This, in a nutshell.

Spendonsend · 18/07/2023 11:07

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 18/07/2023 10:59

Gosh thank you... that makes interesting reading Smile As there are actually so few on very high salaries, it appears that every single person earning over 6 figures a year must be on mumsnet - They MUST be because of the high amount of posters claiming they, their partner, and all their friends are on super dooooper salaries.

That is household income though rather than individual earnings.

TrueScrumptious · 18/07/2023 11:09

Yes, I would say so. I live in London and DH and I earn that between us.

Blossomtoes · 18/07/2023 11:10

EmmaChizzett · 18/07/2023 11:03

According to the Office for National Statistics, the top 20% of the UK has an average disposable income (after income tax, NI and Council Tax) of £66k per month.

That high?

No, not that high at all. £66k a month? 🙄

And those figures are per household, not per individual.

spir1t · 18/07/2023 11:12

RegainingTheWill2023 - London is very diverse. No, cleaners and nursery workers etc are not living in say, Chelsea (unless in social housing, which is very limited). They will be travelling from other areas, often quite some distance.

Mademetoxic · 18/07/2023 11:12

TrueScrumptious · 18/07/2023 11:09

Yes, I would say so. I live in London and DH and I earn that between us.

According to some posters on here you're on the bones of your arse and nobody could ever afford to live in London on a salary which is under 100k....

Trickedbyadoughnut · 18/07/2023 11:13

And you can see where you are on the percentile here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentile-points-from-1-to-99-for-total-income-before-and-after-tax

(65k is 92nd)

And compare your income here:

https://www.oecd.org/wise/compare-your-income.htm

(65k would be in top 10 per cent)

Indigotree · 18/07/2023 11:14

2 bed flats in central London are around £600,000 - £700,000 so a couple on £65,000 each could get a mortgage for one in theory

RegainingTheWill2023 · 18/07/2023 11:15

spir1t · 18/07/2023 11:12

RegainingTheWill2023 - London is very diverse. No, cleaners and nursery workers etc are not living in say, Chelsea (unless in social housing, which is very limited). They will be travelling from other areas, often quite some distance.

I am fully aware of that.
Which is why using a very small locality in a discussion about earnings is utterly meaningless.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 18/07/2023 11:15

Blossomtoes · 18/07/2023 11:10

No, not that high at all. £66k a month? 🙄

And those figures are per household, not per individual.

Oops! 🤣 Per year. Wishful thinking on my part!

maddiemookins16mum · 18/07/2023 11:19

It’s MN, anything under 100K is considered low wage. Meanwhile back in the real world……..

Pandor · 18/07/2023 11:21

Slightly off topic, but it’s funny how wedded people are to the concept of “a six figure salary”, and how £100,000 looms large in so many people’s minds when these topics are discussed.

I feel like £100,000 has been playing that same role for years now!

Surely with inflation and cost of living people should have moved the dial up a bit, say… to £110,000, or £120,000. It shows you the power of a nice neat looking number that people are still so willing to stick with it.

I wonder how devalued £100,000 will have to become before people stop using it like this? I reckon probably not until they feel confident enough to replace it with £150,000 at least as the new benchmark.

EcoChica1980 · 18/07/2023 11:22

There are stats on this.

65k pouts you in the 92nd percentile of pre-tax earnings. Iother words-only 8% of people earn more than that.

£100k would put you between the 96th and 97th percentile.

The '1%' - those in the top 1% of earners -earn £183k and above.

Superpinkflowerpower · 18/07/2023 11:23

I think MN needs a separate section for Londoner's the 12% of the population, for their own little bubble and the rest of us.

MN seems to think every thing and every one should be compared to the London bubble weighting, and political bubble.

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