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Don't understand how you be happy after children grow up

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tikitikitembonoSaRembo · 14/07/2023 10:20

I know it's not normal but I can't understand people who don't feel this way, but I want to.

My two children are beginning to do many more things without me as they grow, want to be alone. I've realised I don't spend half the time with them I used to.

I was a very hands on mother, didn't work during the first few years, then worked around school and would take them out twice a week, spend Saturdays playing with them.

I even have things in my own life. I'm part of a local group which I love and I still work but I feel like my identity and life are slipping away and I don't know how to be happy without being my children's world.

Maybe I messed up along the way but it's this crippling depression.

I know I can go out, meet people, stay up late etc. as I become free of my children, but I don't want to be free of them. I should have had six and gave my life to it but I realised too late that I loved being a mother and only had two.

I'm single and I own my home so could sell up in a few years I suppose, but I don't want to, all our memories are in this house.

I don't feel my children are my whole identity but they are the best thing about my life and I don't think anything could trump it.

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SowingTheSeedsOfLove · 16/07/2023 21:56

Reading your first post it sounds like you have successfully raised your children and they are growing up to become eventually independent young people.
It sounds like your success has brought on nerves as they are given freedom with age to explore the world.
Now our 2.4 children - the point 4 is the dog is always happy to see us and a diversion from life when having a bad day.
Maybe pet, volunteering or a part time job can fill the void?

WhatTheHeckIsIt · 16/07/2023 21:58

I hear you 💐my eldest left home this year & it is like a weird grief.

Think back to when they were little, do you remember that period of time when they suddenly developed & it takes you time to catch up? Like when they start crawling or going to preschool - they are fine but it takes you a couple of weeks to catch up to the new reality.

Any big change to circumstance is unnerving & knocks your confidence, it just takes time to navigate this new stage of life.

Asparagus1 · 16/07/2023 22:01

I used to feel like this about various stages of them growing up, like “how will I cope when they go out with their friends?” Etc. Mine older two are 15 and 16 now. I think you just have to do it, and cope. And the thought of it is worse than the reality? But then I have a 6 year old too so may feel differently when he gets to that age…

Inastatus · 16/07/2023 22:09

Thanks for posting OP, i feel this way too and have found some of the comments on this thread very helpful.

lljkk · 16/07/2023 22:10

neah, I can't relate at all. But it's nice you have had something so wonderful.

You could... see yourself as immensely fortunate to have known such love and happiness that your children brought you. Nothing will ever take that away from you. Many are not so fortunate.

Changes that come are not loss but rather making space for even greater happiness. Just wait and see how much you can love your grandchildren.

Cakeandcoffee93 · 16/07/2023 22:13

You’d make a lovely foster mum OP. All that love and space to fill, for someone who needs you. I think you should look into it. I know I would

Angua2112 · 16/07/2023 22:15

My eldest has moderate to severe learning disabilities and health issues. She’s never going to live independently. I’m never going to see her have children or any of those milestones.

mswales · 16/07/2023 22:33

I worry about this a lot already and my children are only 1 and 5! (and I don't even enjoy motherhood that much a lot of the time - still can't bear the thought of them living separate lives from me!) When I've talked to people about it I've taken great comfort in people telling me that if you have an incredibly close relationship with your children that will last their whole lives - they will love you intensely forever, and in a way that they will never love anyone else. If they get partners and their own families then of course they will come first but you will always hold a completely unique, special, important place in their hearts and you will still get cuddles and closeness and them turning to you when they are in need, no matter how old they are. And if/when they have kids of their own imagine how special that will be! You will have a whole new world of joy of being a grandparent to experience. Lots of love OP x

JupiterFortified · 16/07/2023 22:40

HeadNorth · 14/07/2023 21:06

Your children growing up is so fucking not like a bereavement- in fact it is the exact opposite.

100%. People who says it’s like a bereavement have clearly never experienced the bereavement of a very close loved one.

TheBlinkOfAnEye · 16/07/2023 22:43

You think about how lucky you are that your children have grown up when so many parents have lost children that will never grow up. You think about how lucky you are that they will grow up and become independent when some people have children who will never be capable of that, and all the worries that go with that knowing you're older than someone so dependent.

Not to minimise your feelings and genuine grief, but give some perspective. Maybe talking to a counsellor will help? I find having lots of interests of my own helps and staying in touch with my grown children. Grown children are their own joy.

mrlistersgelfbride · 16/07/2023 22:44

Very interesting thread.
Does anyone else find their children more enjoyable the older they get? My DD is only 5 and a half though, I may not be saying this when she is a teenager 🙈😆
I don't get wanting to go back to the baby and toddler stage, it was so hard. I prefer being a parent now I can chat to DD. I think having an adult child will be fun. Can't wait to go to places together and hopefully we will be close enough to go on holidays and days out.

A pp mentioned that her friends who have the best relationship with their parents had parents who had their own lives.
This really resonates.
My mum was a SAHM, the main thing in life was raising her children. She doesn't have much to talk about now except me and my brother and things her friends and neighbours say.
Not meaning to sound nasty, but that's not for me. It would have been good for her to have a job, some hobbies, and a life outside of us. Just my opinion.

Op I think it'd be good for you to talk to someone you trust. I think what you are describing is a normal feeling generally but I don't agree it's like a bereavement. Your children, especially the 9 year old, are still young. You have the stages ahead to enjoy together.

TheBlinkOfAnEye · 16/07/2023 22:44

JupiterFortified · 16/07/2023 22:40

100%. People who says it’s like a bereavement have clearly never experienced the bereavement of a very close loved one.

This. When you're bereaved you can't pick up the phone, send a message, don't see them even once in a while. They're gone, forever. People who have no concept of child loss are lucky.

Ruesy · 16/07/2023 22:44

I actually don't feel this way, I relate to my children more now they are older, I never really enjoyed the little children stage, now we travel the world together, we watch adult films, horror, at the cinema, go to festivals together, the pub. I have 5 from the ages of 18 to 30, 2 have left home.

FranticElevator · 16/07/2023 22:45

mswales · 16/07/2023 22:33

I worry about this a lot already and my children are only 1 and 5! (and I don't even enjoy motherhood that much a lot of the time - still can't bear the thought of them living separate lives from me!) When I've talked to people about it I've taken great comfort in people telling me that if you have an incredibly close relationship with your children that will last their whole lives - they will love you intensely forever, and in a way that they will never love anyone else. If they get partners and their own families then of course they will come first but you will always hold a completely unique, special, important place in their hearts and you will still get cuddles and closeness and them turning to you when they are in need, no matter how old they are. And if/when they have kids of their own imagine how special that will be! You will have a whole new world of joy of being a grandparent to experience. Lots of love OP x

No, this just isn’t true and nor should it be. Your children are the centre of your world. It doesn’t work the other way around.

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Cloudburstings · 16/07/2023 23:05

tikitikitembonoSaRembo · 16/07/2023 12:50

@5128gap
That’s brilliant advice. Thank you.
@Icannot I do love this. But I don't see anything coming close to my babies being around me.
I don't like online dating. I will try to get our more. This thread has helped.
I just feel like having babies and being a parent is so special that nothing can get close, it’s like a dysphoria.
@AlwaysTheSupplierNeverTheBride that’s actually a really good point but I won't be doing this. It's not like normal parenting. I have looked into it. It's not for me.
@squirelnutkin11 Thank you, it’s comforting to know people feel similar. It's also comforting to know that people can feel totally differently. I don't want to feel like this, it just seems nothing can compare to my role as a mother.
I do actually have a hobby and it's skilled and time consuming and exhilarating. I want to exist outside of motherhood and be a person in my own right again, but at the same time I don't want to, and I just can't fathom how it's possible. I know it sounds crazy but I'm just bearing all here.

I do understand your feelings OP, though I feel I mourn each stage as they pass.

so I’m nostalgic for the newborn, baby, toddler and pre school phases now they are over for us.

i talk with husband and friends about how parenting is like one long break up.

mu youngest is five and still loves to sleep in my arms. But I know that won’t last so I drink in every moment.

DH is big on being strategic about he teens and young adult phase. His idea is we build family activities we all want to do so that we can do those together through the teen years.

and we’re planning to bribe them with generous offers to pay for them to join us on holidays! And hope those things will keep our relationship going strong through the teen and young adult years until they hopefully have children of their own and we can be hands on grandparents.

Bellie710 · 16/07/2023 23:12

Our oldest DD is about to go to Uni, she has already been on 2 holidays by herself, we tend to do a big family holiday once a year. This year we are going without her and it feels really strange booking things when one of us is missing.

Unfortunately this is how it goes, I am so excited for DD and her life at Uni but at the same time I can't get over feeling bad that she is missing out on this holiday, which is so irratinal with the holidays she has had!

EconomyClassRockstar · 16/07/2023 23:14

My 4 have all left home and I remember a sense of kind of panic when they were younger teenagers and realizing that this was going to be "it" pretty soon. Turns out DH and I LOVE being empty nesters. We love when they come home too but life is, and should be, so much more than our children. That said, I still occasionally well up when I walk through the snack aisle of the supermarket and see stuff that I don't have anyone to buy it for anymore. Luckily, my tears are normally interrupted by the sound of a young child yelling and I'm like...Oh yeah! 😂

mswales · 16/07/2023 23:17

FranticElevator · 16/07/2023 22:45

No, this just isn’t true and nor should it be. Your children are the centre of your world. It doesn’t work the other way around.

I never said that parents remain the centre of their children's world, or that they should. That's not what my post says at all.

Wishfulthinking1977 · 16/07/2023 23:23

I felt exactly the same OP! I had my first child very young and then had two more, I had a similar realtionship with mine as it sounds like you have with yours. And that's what makes it easier. My eldest lives about 30 mins away, she is married with 2 small kids but we see them all the time! I was there at their births and she wants them to have the same childhood she had so we are very close. My son lives a bit further but every time he has time off he's staying with us, loves the bond, speaks regularly, but wants to include us In his life. Youngest still lives at home and has brought her boyfriend to live with us! I never interfere in my kids lives but let them know I am always here for them and support them however I can. It sounds like you have a great relationship with your kids and although it will change and evolve you will always be part of it and enjoy those experiences xx

Babycakes39 · 16/07/2023 23:27

You are not alone, I felt exactly the same. My children are 17 and 15 and I feel like I'm mourning my wonderful life I had with them. It was too short. Nothing else compares to that time, even though it was hard at times, I truly felt life was as I'd dreamed it would be. I just didn't realise how quickly it could all change!

Greenberg2 · 16/07/2023 23:27

It's purpose and meaning.

We all need to feel like that and children fill that gap perfectly.

You need to find that in something else as well as your children. Something that becomes more important than yourself but also is meaningful.

It's more individual than children though as almost everyone finds it in something individual to them (apart from those with small children, who tend to share it with each other).

Thundercats77 · 16/07/2023 23:36

@Anniejameslastcallanniejames it's so lovely that you have such a special bond with your step mum. ❤️

oakleaffy · 16/07/2023 23:47

@tikitikitembonoSaRembo It's normal to feel as you do {and I did!}

I was a single parent with DS, and it was just me and him {and pets} for many years.

When teenagers ''Pull away'' it comes as a shock {or did to me}

But...they NEED to do this.

when it actually happens, it's not as horrendous as you'd imagine.

DS lives a 45 min drive away, now, in his own house- I agree, Get a dog as a companion. They are something to nurture, and they never tire of it! 😘

Pallisers · 16/07/2023 23:55

OP, I honestly think you should talk to someone about this. And I think it is great that you are recognizing this feeling in yourself before your children grow.

Mine are now 21, 22 and 25. All graduated. All pretty much launched. I can honestly say I thought the years of childrearing would last forever. I remember buying Parents or Parenting magazines in airports and not being able to imagine a life where I wouldn't be buying them. But it does go fast. They say the days go like years and the years go like days. it is true.

Honestly though, it is lovely having adult children. We are so interested and engaged in what they are doing and it is lovely talking to them - and best of all seeing them interact with each other.

My parents were born to be parents - they were lovely and they told me once that the best years of their lives were when we were toddlers. But they had a great life when we grew up, loved having sons in law, loved seeing what we did and they had so so so much fun as grandparents - my kids and my siblings' kids will attest to that.

At the risk of sending you over the edge, I'm posting this which I think is a very fair article on children growing up and going off to university (I've posted it before on MN) and how complicated that can feel to parents. It is great that they grow up but it is momentous too. I love when she says "It’s not a death. And it’s not a tragedy. But it’s not nothing, either"

I Was The Sun and They Were The Planets

I wasn’t wrong about their leaving. My husband kept telling me I was. That it wasn’t the end of the world when first one child, then another, and then the last packed her bags and left for college.
But it was the end of something. “Can you pick me up, Mom?” “What’s for dinner?” “What do you think?”
I was the sun, and they were the planets. And there was life on those planets, whirling, nonstop plans and parties and friends coming and going, and ideas and dreams and the phone ringing and doors slamming. And I got to beam down on them. To watch. To glow.
And then they were gone, one after the other.

“They’ll be back,” my husband said. And he was right. They came back. But he was wrong, too, because they came back for intervals, not for always, not planets anymore, making their predictable orbits, but unpredictable, like shooting stars.
Always is what you miss. Always knowing where they are. At school. At play practice. At a ballgame. At a friend’s. Always looking at the clock midday and anticipating the door opening, the sigh, the smile, the laugh, the shrug. “How was school?” answered for years in too much detail. “And then he said . . . and then I said to him. . . .” Then hardly answered at all.
Always knowing his friends.
Her favorite show.
What he had for breakfast.
What she wore to school.
What he thinks.
How she feels.
My friend Beth’s twin girls left for Roger Williams yesterday. They are her fourth and fifth children. She’s been down this road three times before. You’d think it would get easier. “I don’t know what I’m going to do without them,” she has said every day for months. And I have said nothing, because, really, what is there to say?
A chapter ends. Another chapter begins. One door closes and another door opens. The best thing a parent can give their child is wings.
I read all these things when my children left home and thought then what I think now: What do these words mean?
Eighteen years isn’t a chapter in anyone’s life. It’s a whole book, and that book is ending and what comes next is connected to, but different from, everything that has gone before.
Before was an infant, a toddler, a child, a teenager. Before was feeding and changing and teaching and comforting and guiding and disciplining, everything hands-on. Now?
Now the kids are young adults and on their own and the parents are on the periphery, and it’s not just a chapter change. It’s a sea change.
As for a door closing? Would that you could close a door and forget for even a minute your children and your love for them and your fear for them, too. And would that they occupied just a single room in your head.But they’re in every room in your head and in your heart.As for the wings analogy? It’s sweet. But children are not birds. Parents don’t let them go and build another nest and have all new offspring next year.Saying goodbye to your children and their childhood is much harder than all the pithy sayings make it seem. Because that’s what going to college is. It’s goodbye.
It’s not a death. And it’s not a tragedy.
But it’s not nothing, either.
To grow a child, a body changes. It needs more sleep. It rejects food it used to like. It expands and it adapts. To let go of a child, a body changes, too. It sighs and it cries and it feels weightless and heavy at the same time.
The drive home alone without them is the worst. And the first few days. But then it gets better. The kids call, come home, bring their friends, and fill the house with their energy again.
Life does go on.
“Can you give me a ride to the mall?” “Mom, make him stop!” I don’t miss this part of parenting, playing chauffeur and referee.
But I miss them, still, all these years later, the children they were, at the dinner table, beside me on the couch, talking on the phone, sleeping in their rooms, safe, home, mine