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AIBU?

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To be a bit concerned about someone about someone calling my daughter this

298 replies

Fashionista22 · 08/07/2023 20:33

We were at a family party and someone that we don’t know very well (but seems was quite friendly and nice) called my daughter a ‘saucepot’. I didn’t think much of it at the time but I googled it later and found out it was a phrase to describe someone being sexy. He’ll be at another event in a couple of weeks..AIBU to find it a bit weird and want to keep more of a distance?

OP posts:
gettingoldisshit · 09/07/2023 11:13

It's about context, when used about a child of that age it generally means "cheeky and sassy". It's something that was said quite a lot by the older generations in my family both male and female.

inamarina · 09/07/2023 11:16

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 08/07/2023 22:08

My mother once called someone a slut because they were messy... I was horrified but she meant "slovenly"

As for the rubbish that boys don't get called the same... Cheeky Monkey and Little Monster ?

As for the rubbish that boys don't get called the same... Cheeky Monkey and Little Monster ?

Exactly. Or „Here comes trouble!“

To be honest, I’ve never quite agreed with the notion that women are called „bossy“, whereas men are always seen as „assertive“. I don’t think it’s that black and white.
I‘ve also heard „he‘s a bit of a dick“ said about „assertive“ men, more than once.

Fashionista22 · 09/07/2023 13:42

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 01:26

Oh stop.

You absolutely are trying to besmirch the poor man.

Seriously? Did you even read the post? I’m giving context to a situation. Stop trying to make it into something it’s not.

OP posts:
JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:43

Seriously? Did you even read the post? I’m giving context to a situation. Stop trying to make it into something it’s not.

Yes I read your tickling update and my eyes nearly rolled clean out of my head.

JeandeServiette · 09/07/2023 13:45

Thanks for the replies, really interesting!

I wouldn’t say he was old, late 40s probably and there were a few other things he did, like try to tickle her and her friends a few times when they were playing. I’m not saying he’s a pedo at all and at the time I didn’t think too much on it but looking back, it is something I’ve thought over a few times, which is why I wanted to ask what you thought.

She is confident and fun, so I’m obviously hoping he was saying he’s sassy (which I hadn’t heard of until this thread) x

Here it is.

"and there were a few other things he did, like try to tickle her and her friends a few times when they were playing. I’m not saying he’s a pedo at all and at the time I didn’t think too much on it but looking back, it is something I’ve thought over a few times, which is why I wanted to ask what you thought."

Comically disingenuous.

Trying2bemum · 09/07/2023 13:51

I’d interpret that as cheeky too.

My FIL called our 5 month old a “tart” and said she was “flirting” with him.

That pissed me right off. He never said things like that about our son.

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 09/07/2023 14:58

Saschka · 09/07/2023 01:09

It’s become confused in the minds of plenty of journalists then, and has taken on a new meaning:

saucepot Roxanne Pallett looked like ‘hot stuff’ while practicing spins on the ice” (first link on Google)

If a word is used to mean “sexy” often enough, I’m afraid it starts to actually mean “sexy”. Like “slutty” no longer really meaning “lazy”.

Context is always key
Slutty has become a sexually promiscuous person almost everywhere, but as I mentioned, some still might use it to mean slovenly.

Tramp now also has the same sort of meaning of a woman who sleeps around. But could also mean homeless. Or dirty and untidy and gross.
"Ew don't be such a tramp" could mean "stop sleeping around" or "stop being gross" dependant on what the person is doing at the time

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 09/07/2023 15:01

inamarina · 09/07/2023 11:16

As for the rubbish that boys don't get called the same... Cheeky Monkey and Little Monster ?

Exactly. Or „Here comes trouble!“

To be honest, I’ve never quite agreed with the notion that women are called „bossy“, whereas men are always seen as „assertive“. I don’t think it’s that black and white.
I‘ve also heard „he‘s a bit of a dick“ said about „assertive“ men, more than once.

Bossy women are like Dickhead Men
They're not being leaders, they're being dictators

Sallyh87 · 09/07/2023 15:06

I call my little girl a sauce pot, she’s three and really sassy. I never knew it meant something else. I also call my nephew a saucepot too.

newnamethanks · 09/07/2023 15:19

When a cousin moved to Lancashire, the next door neighbour called her 2 year old son a little tosspot. Again, this wasn't intended as a major insult but was another variation of the 'cute cheeky monkey' thing. I think the phrase has now, hopefully, fallen out of use altogether. It took some explaining to avoid a nightmare neighbour scenario developing.

artsperson · 09/07/2023 17:48

Saucepot doesn't have anything to do with sensuality or ethnicity! A boy could be called a saucepan. It means cheeky, lippy etc. It's lighthearted. I bet it was an older person said it. Hiding in plain sight, rubbish! Ffs

Julia001 · 09/07/2023 17:49

lljkk · 08/07/2023 20:38

I heard that term used by someone to simply mean mixed heritage. Nothing to do with sexiness.

I have never heard that said about it in my whole
life , please don't make it about race !

maureen17 · 09/07/2023 17:51

But very little children get called saucepots because they're cheeky, sassy, naughty, confident.
just as already said .... nothing untoward at all meant from where I come from.

exaltedwombat · 09/07/2023 18:19

Untwist your knickers! 'Saucepot' means cheeky, sassy. Nothing more. Even if you can dig up some sexier meanings on the internet, they certainly weren't intended here.

Hmm1234 · 09/07/2023 18:24

Whatttt? Lol mixed heritage

Ilovecleaning · 09/07/2023 18:46

I haven’t read the whole thread but imo it is innocent. I have only ever heard it used to mean ‘cheeky chops’ similar to ‘sauce’ which is ‘cheeky’ in a nice way. If you are in the UK, you would know that. If not,you need to know how innocent it is. Please ignore those who think it’s dodgy.

Ilovecleaning · 09/07/2023 18:46

maureen17 · 09/07/2023 17:51

But very little children get called saucepots because they're cheeky, sassy, naughty, confident.
just as already said .... nothing untoward at all meant from where I come from.

Agree!

Ilovecleaning · 09/07/2023 18:47

exaltedwombat · 09/07/2023 18:19

Untwist your knickers! 'Saucepot' means cheeky, sassy. Nothing more. Even if you can dig up some sexier meanings on the internet, they certainly weren't intended here.

Agree!

Ilovecleaning · 09/07/2023 18:48

Trying2bemum · 09/07/2023 13:51

I’d interpret that as cheeky too.

My FIL called our 5 month old a “tart” and said she was “flirting” with him.

That pissed me right off. He never said things like that about our son.

Yuk

Mere1 · 09/07/2023 18:55

I agree with Tribblesarelovely.
The term means ‘little ball of fun’ or some such. Nothing scurrilous at all.

Nurgleturtle · 09/07/2023 18:58

just to put your mind at ease different places use it for different meaning in south yorkshire saucepot means you've done something silly.

What did you do that for saucepot.

Ilovecleaning · 09/07/2023 18:59

Hangonaminutethere · 08/07/2023 22:07

Absolutely this. Another one here for whom it just means cheeky, and that’s how it’s used in this part of the UK (North).
’He’s hiding in plain sight?!!’ ffs.

Agreed. Some bloody daft responses on here. If the man meant ‘sexy’ why the hell would he say it openly? “Hello, Sexy!” to a small child?? FFS, don’t people on here understand nuances of language in different cultures and different areas?
Thankfully, most posters are sensible on this thread.

almostoverthehill · 09/07/2023 18:59

I’ve only known it to mean cheeky/sassy

SchoolShenanigans · 09/07/2023 19:01

My family use that term to mean saucy, and in cheeky. Not sexy at all.

I suspect this is the case here, as why would a paedo be saying your toddler looks sexy in front of it's parents?

YABU. If they say it again, just say, what does that mean? I'm sure they mean cheeky.

CaroleSinger · 09/07/2023 19:04

Trouble is you don't know what his interpretation of the term might be. To so e people saucy means cheeky. He might just have thought she was a bit cheeky. Why does everyone jump to see paedophilic intentions in every little thing?