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To be a bit concerned about someone about someone calling my daughter this

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Fashionista22 · 08/07/2023 20:33

We were at a family party and someone that we don’t know very well (but seems was quite friendly and nice) called my daughter a ‘saucepot’. I didn’t think much of it at the time but I googled it later and found out it was a phrase to describe someone being sexy. He’ll be at another event in a couple of weeks..AIBU to find it a bit weird and want to keep more of a distance?

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Havaina · 10/07/2023 10:46

mambojambodothetango · 10/07/2023 10:16

Not read whole thread so someone may have made this point already, but from what I've seen most people are missing the point that even if it only means 'cheeky', the question you have to ask is 'would he have said this to a boy?'. Whether it's a sexualised term or not, it's still very gendered I think, a bit like 'feisty', which you only every hear applied to girls. It means they're not afraid to stand up for themselves. If a boy behaved like this it wouldn't invite comment as boys are 'supposed' to be confident.

Very true. I’d be interested in all the people saying this is fine whether they would call their sons ‘saucepot’. There’s no way they would, if they’re honest.

zingally · 10/07/2023 11:10

I've heard it used by the older generation to mean like cheeky or sassy. I'm certain both my grandmas (who would be over 100 now) used that phrase to me and my sister as little kids.

My mum, who is in her late 60s would use the phrase "saucy" to mean cheeky. I grew up hearing that I had "a saucy grin" because I used to do really big cheesy grins in photos as a child.

Stars2theside · 10/07/2023 11:20

Nope. That’s creepy AF.
I’ve been around too many ‘Pervy uncles’ of friends of mine and it made me feel sick in my stomach back then. I now know that to be my gut instinct and if it makes you feel like that, then trust it. I stopped going to friends family gatherings because of it. It’s sick. They might not be peado’s but they’re still not behaving correctly towards young girls, so it’s a swerve for me!

Stars2theside · 10/07/2023 11:21

Havaina · 10/07/2023 10:46

Very true. I’d be interested in all the people saying this is fine whether they would call their sons ‘saucepot’. There’s no way they would, if they’re honest.

100% this

Mollymalone123 · 10/07/2023 11:24

sauce pot would mean cheeky to me-definitely not sexual in any way.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 10/07/2023 11:28

Stars2theside · 10/07/2023 11:21

100% this

Probably not. If it were a boy, my dad's generation - and anyone from around that part of London, even now - would say 'saucy bugger'. There would be no implication that any buggery was involved.

Ponoka7 · 10/07/2023 13:06

Havaina · 10/07/2023 10:46

Very true. I’d be interested in all the people saying this is fine whether they would call their sons ‘saucepot’. There’s no way they would, if they’re honest.

Older people might do. I wouldn't apply it just to girls. Although with my background (and learning about language) I wouldn't use it along with sassy etc. They'd also say saucebox for mouth, which was applied to either sex.
From Oliver Twist: The Artful Dodger is in court.
During his hearing, the ten-year-old screams, “I am an Englishman; where are my rights?” Saucy words from a saucy child replies the Judge. It was a saying used to mean cheeky. We just started to sexualise everything.

Stirling2701 · 10/07/2023 17:07

I thought it meant cheeky. I wouldn't think anything more about it.

3GuineaPigs · 10/07/2023 21:12

I first saw this term saucepot used to mean a cheeky child in Jacqueline Wilson's autobiography Jacky Daydream. I think it was the bit when Jacqueline as a young child had to recite a poem at school and wet her knickers from stage fright , so her mother took them off when they went home and her grandma affectionately I think called her a saucepot for having knickers!

Saschka · 10/07/2023 22:42

3GuineaPigs · 10/07/2023 21:12

I first saw this term saucepot used to mean a cheeky child in Jacqueline Wilson's autobiography Jacky Daydream. I think it was the bit when Jacqueline as a young child had to recite a poem at school and wet her knickers from stage fright , so her mother took them off when they went home and her grandma affectionately I think called her a saucepot for having knickers!

Referring to somebody wearing no knickers as “a sauce pot” is not the evidence you seem to think it is that “sauce pot” is an innocent, unsexualised term Grin

givingupchocolatemonday · 10/07/2023 22:54

Did he mean sasspot?! Hope so because that's weird

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2023 23:03

givingupchocolatemonday · 10/07/2023 22:54

Did he mean sasspot?! Hope so because that's weird

RTFT.

Teenagehorrorbag · 11/07/2023 01:18

wutheringkites · 08/07/2023 20:42

I've only ever heard it in context of 'sexy', and generally a comment made by a man about a younger woman. Agree it sits alongside 'minx' and 'flirt'.

Interesting to hear that it has different meanings for others.

Nothing wrong with 'minx' - surely that generally means a mischievous young girl, like Minnie the Minx in the Beano.

A man might use it to an adult female to mean something more sexual, but he also might say 'ooh you naughty thing'. Or a woman might say that to a man. Doesn't mean we can't use the word 'naughty' to our children.

I've never heard the term 'saucepot' but would understand 'saucy' to mean the same as others have said - 'cheeky'. And applicable to boys or girls.

Glitterblue · 11/07/2023 01:42

StellaJohanna · 08/07/2023 21:41

People use that word where I'm from about a kid to mean cheeky and cute. It's rather an old fashioned word.

@StellaJohanna same here - I remember my mum calling me this when I was very little, in the context of cute and cheeky. My mum is so old fashioned and straight laced, there's absolutely no way she'd have used that word if she thought it meant anything at all to do with sexy etc.

BestBeforeddmmyy · 11/07/2023 08:10

If someone is saucy, it can mean cheeky. It can mean sexy. It’s a question of context. You sometimes have to make judgements. I would go with your first instinct and assumed this is an innocent & fond remark by a friendly person having fun to make your daughter laugh. Saucy, sauce pot - both are terms I would use in fun,

AnObserverInThisDarkWorld · 11/07/2023 13:48

Cheeky and Naughty can both be used towards an adult in a sexual way

So you better stop using those for children too

Daddy and Mommy can be used sexually too so don't let your children call you them either.

123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 11/07/2023 14:04

saucepot=sexy
sasspot=cheeky

i would be wary but it could just be they have got mixed up with the words and is quite common for mistakes. if he says it again just comment saying....ohhh never heard of that term before what does it mean and see his response

Blossomtoes · 11/07/2023 14:07

123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 11/07/2023 14:04

saucepot=sexy
sasspot=cheeky

i would be wary but it could just be they have got mixed up with the words and is quite common for mistakes. if he says it again just comment saying....ohhh never heard of that term before what does it mean and see his response

Try reading the thread. Sasspot makes absolutely no sense.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 11/07/2023 15:37

I can't believe this thread is still going on. Biggest mountain out of a molehill ever.

Clearly he meant cheeky and sassy.

CoffeeCantata · 11/07/2023 16:05

Sorry if someone else has already said this, OP (haven't read all the pages).

Where I grew up saucepot would be an old-fashioned and totally harmless name for a cheeky person - usually a child. There are no sexual connotations in that context. 'Saucy' and 'sassy' mean the same, more or less, and are basically the same word - but one went to America in the 17th century.

I wonder if you are confusing it with 'sexpot', which is now a dated term but was much-used in the 60s/70s about women who were seen as sexually provocative?

I wouldn't worry at all about saucepot, unless you have other context which makes it a concern.

Mothership4two · 12/07/2023 01:14

It has been said many times on here already @CoffeeCantata (I was called saucepot/sosspot as a child) but there are still some posters saying potential predator 🙄

Windblownwife · 12/07/2023 07:07

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 11/07/2023 15:37

I can't believe this thread is still going on. Biggest mountain out of a molehill ever.

Clearly he meant cheeky and sassy.

Yes this!

BittenontheBum · 12/07/2023 08:54

Saucychops in my family. Meaning a wee scamp.
Definitely not a sexual meaning.
If he feels off in other ways avoid though.
Some men aren't as clever at hiding shit as they think they are....

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