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AIBU?

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To be a bit concerned about someone about someone calling my daughter this

298 replies

Fashionista22 · 08/07/2023 20:33

We were at a family party and someone that we don’t know very well (but seems was quite friendly and nice) called my daughter a ‘saucepot’. I didn’t think much of it at the time but I googled it later and found out it was a phrase to describe someone being sexy. He’ll be at another event in a couple of weeks..AIBU to find it a bit weird and want to keep more of a distance?

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saraclara · 09/07/2023 23:35

Grrrrdarling · 09/07/2023 23:33

I’d be contacting them immediately & telling them that their name calling was wildly inappropriate for a child & to stay away from your child at the next event!
Police would be a last resort BUT this inappropriate name calling screams ‘start of child grooming’ to me!!!

😂😂😂😂😂

🙄🙄🙄

Seriously

Grrrrdarling · 09/07/2023 23:42

saraclara · 09/07/2023 23:35

😂😂😂😂😂

🙄🙄🙄

Seriously

Yes… SERIOUSLY!
Saucepot to me is something I grew up hearing adults, like my mum & dad, calling each other after a few drinks or on the TV when men were discussing a good looking woman they though was hot or they were attracted to!
The child is 2! They are not in the slightest bit ‘saucey’ like that!

DiscoDragon · 09/07/2023 23:43

I had an ex whose mother was always calling him a dirty slut, I was so shocked at first to hear her calling him that as I thought she was accusing him of sleeping around. Apparently it's an old fashioned term for a messy person like slob!

Hopefully saucepot in this instance is just an old fashioned term to mean cheeky, the kind of thing my nan would probably say as she has called me a saucy minx on occasion when I'd been cheeky.

honeylulu · 09/07/2023 23:50

My father who is now in his 80s used it to refer to cheekiness/backchatting, definitely not sexiness. My sister was very prone to answering back and his rebuke was usually "I don't want any of your sauce Jennifer". He still uses the older meanings of other words that now have different meanings. For example he will say "feeling queer" for unwell. He definitely isn't queer in the more modern sense.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 10/07/2023 00:04

bibbityboppityboo · 08/07/2023 20:39

Oh I didn't realise it meant sexy - I've sort of heard it used to mean sassy? Weird if it means sexy to use it regarding a 2 year old!

That’s what I thought too - a bit cheeky with plenty of chutzpah!

Windblownwife · 10/07/2023 00:38

I think it also means a bit cheeky, a bit of a character, that’s how I’ve understood it and would have interpreted it . Not ‘sexy’

Mo819 · 10/07/2023 01:58

It means cheecky were I come from ! Google isn't always your friend my dear.

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 10/07/2023 04:23

No! It doesn’t mean sexy! My lovely old granny used to use the same word to describe someone cheeky and cute. It’s an old fashioned word and might have different meanings for different people, but in this context I’d definitely assume they thought it has the same meaning as my granny.

babysharkdoodoodedoodedoo · 10/07/2023 04:24

Literally lolling at the idea of someone going mental and calling the police because someone called their daughter a sauce pot 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Babsexxx · 10/07/2023 04:42

🤣

Notamum12345577 · 10/07/2023 05:23

Another vote for it meaning cheeky / sassy!

WiddlinDiddlin · 10/07/2023 05:33

newnamethanks · 09/07/2023 15:19

When a cousin moved to Lancashire, the next door neighbour called her 2 year old son a little tosspot. Again, this wasn't intended as a major insult but was another variation of the 'cute cheeky monkey' thing. I think the phrase has now, hopefully, fallen out of use altogether. It took some explaining to avoid a nightmare neighbour scenario developing.

Mmmm.. they either misheard 'saucepot' or 'sospot'... or the neighbour did call the kid a tosspot and was then backpedalling like mad..

Tosspot is an insult and definitely not 'cute/cheeky monkey' in the lancashire region!

Regional phrases and particularly in conjunction with accents can be lots of fun.

My home counties housemate was HORRIFIED when the old lady next door apparently called him 'a cock'... then asked him to go to the shop for her.

She didn't. She said 'oi cock...' to get his attention, short for 'cocker' ie, 'mate'... but in broad lancashire from the rather stern sort of woman who can make the term 'lady' a death threat... it didn't sound affectionate or friendly at all!

Passwordsarestressful · 10/07/2023 05:39

Barbara windsor in Carry on Camping is a saucepot in my book. I'm not relying on Google I'm relying on the way the word has been used, to my knowledge in the place I grew up, the place DH grew up and where we live now, all hundreds of miles apart

Jezzabear · 10/07/2023 06:23

This does not sound creepy or weird, but your reaction is concerning. Is there more to the story? Did they look odd or behave strangely in any other way than to use an unfamiliar term, possibly intended as a compliment ?

Every personal remark can be described as offensive; and really when speaking of a two year old, almost all remarks are personal Almost none are to do with sex. Do you suppose that everyone who says "What a beautiful baby!" Is a pervert?

kierenthecommunity · 10/07/2023 09:06

I don’t think I’ve heard the term ‘saucepot’ but if I heard it without context I think I’d automatically think sexy/tarty as in the 70s/80s sit com busty nurse/secretary bursting out of her tight uniform/blouse flirting with the doctor/boss etc. as that’s what the word saucy does conjur up for me. Along with it sounding like sexpot.

I have heard of the saucy = cheeky definition though of course. I remember a Famous Five book where they were searching for a boat called the Saucy Jane. I’d be surprised if Enid had meant sexy 😂 Plus they found the other boats which were called Cheeky Charlie and Merry Meg so it was definitely meant to mean lively/funny there.

So if I heard a child called this I may be a bit 😳 for a second or two but then remember the alternate meaning. I think it would be quite obvious when saying it was joking about sassiness v a creepy inappropriate comment though

Folioh · 10/07/2023 09:11

bellac11 · 08/07/2023 20:45

Well it still is in my head, if someone says something tongue in cheek/sarcastic or whatever I might say 'oi you bloody saucepot'

But then clearly according to this thread Im icky, creepy, gross etc etc. And put some red flags next to my name!!!

Maybe it’s regional- saucy here definitely means sexy/risqué. My grandma would say ‘it’s a bit saucy’ to mean a bit blue- I.e adult sexy themes.

ElectriciansMate · 10/07/2023 10:04

I would imagine he meant "saucy" - what we would now call "cheeky". I would imagine it's meant to be cute, implying that she's got character. I doubt it's meant to be anything other. I'd laugh it off.

But then, I'd also never leave my child with him.

mambojambodothetango · 10/07/2023 10:16

Not read whole thread so someone may have made this point already, but from what I've seen most people are missing the point that even if it only means 'cheeky', the question you have to ask is 'would he have said this to a boy?'. Whether it's a sexualised term or not, it's still very gendered I think, a bit like 'feisty', which you only every hear applied to girls. It means they're not afraid to stand up for themselves. If a boy behaved like this it wouldn't invite comment as boys are 'supposed' to be confident.

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2023 10:17

Folioh · 10/07/2023 09:11

Maybe it’s regional- saucy here definitely means sexy/risqué. My grandma would say ‘it’s a bit saucy’ to mean a bit blue- I.e adult sexy themes.

A word can have more than one meaning, who knew?

Moonlightdust · 10/07/2023 10:20

Grrrrdarling · 09/07/2023 23:42

Yes… SERIOUSLY!
Saucepot to me is something I grew up hearing adults, like my mum & dad, calling each other after a few drinks or on the TV when men were discussing a good looking woman they though was hot or they were attracted to!
The child is 2! They are not in the slightest bit ‘saucey’ like that!

FGS. Classic example of lost in translation. ‘Saucepot’ was an endearing name given to a cheeky or spirited child where I’m from growing up!!

Grrrrdarling · 10/07/2023 10:24

Moonlightdust · 10/07/2023 10:20

FGS. Classic example of lost in translation. ‘Saucepot’ was an endearing name given to a cheeky or spirited child where I’m from growing up!!

44 & for me it has never been anything other than a way to describe a hot woman.
Guess we all learn something new every day.
I would still be having a word with the adult in question as their use of the word could clearly, to me, get them into serous bother!!!

Inbetweenie993 · 10/07/2023 10:28

Really??? To me it means cheeky - which is fine to say to a toddler. It's sad how everything is dissected these days looking for non-PC undertones.

TheoTheopolis23 · 10/07/2023 10:31

Never heard it to mean anything other than sexy.

Like another word for sex bomb/bomb shell.

Never heard the cheeky meaning .... ever.

From NI, lived in England for a while.

TheoTheopolis23 · 10/07/2023 10:32

Whether it's a sexualised term or not, it's still very gendered I think

Yes.
Probably wouldn't have been said to a boy acting the same.

Folioh · 10/07/2023 10:37

Blossomtoes · 10/07/2023 10:17

A word can have more than one meaning, who knew?

@Blossomtoes I did, that’s why I referred to it being regional.

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