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AIBU for feeling out of place with in-laws?

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twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 03:34

I’ve been with my boyfriend for a couple of months and our upbringings were very different, I feel a bit out of place around my in laws as a result.

I’m from a very middle class family and from an area that’s considered disadvantaged. There’s roughly 500 houses spread between 13 different estates, most of the houses are council owned but there’s also a handful that are owned privately. My parents are one of those who own their house privately. Our estate is named after someone on hunger strike (Catholic area).

There’s been three murders and a handful of small crimes due to certain people living here, but I’ve only ever known the place as home and have had positive memories growing up here. In general, the area has a bad name and most people don’t go on and get a third level education so there’s government grants to encourage the newer generation to go to university.

Of course, there’s a stereotype about how we should talk and act as we live in the town but my own accent and demeanour couldn’t be further from it. Usually when I introduce myself and say where I’m from, people laugh because they think I’m joking! When I first met my boyfriends sister, she laughed, said “yeah right!” and then made a lighthearted joke about the area.

The unemployment level is high. My father worked all of his life until the recession and my mother became the main bread winner for the family. Once the economy started to open back up, my parents both agreed that my father would stay at home (unless he found a good job) because childcare costs for my younger sibling would’ve defeated the purpose of him working.

Once my sister became older and consequently my father, he became less desirable for employers and had every job application rejected. I remember being sixteen writing cover letters and helping him with several applications. He became depressed because he was from a time where you didn’t finish school but went out to work and was now unemployed longterm for the first time, while his sixteen year old daughter was working part-time. He’s now 60, still unemployed, but has more or less accepted he’s retired by default.

My boyfriends family are very well off from inherited wealth. By the sounds of things, his mothers family encouraged their daughters to marry into well-off families from a certain denomination (Protestant) and they did. His parents recently had their homes and land evaluated and they figure was above £1,000,000.

They sent their children to a private, Protestant boarding school and paid for each child to go to university (and their accomdation) so no child had to work until their twenties. My boyfriends currently doing a masters (works full-time), his brothers are pilots, and his sister is a child photographer with her own business. They’ve had absolutely everything handed to them on a silver spoon (his parents had the means to do this) and will each inherit a portion of their parents wealth.

I can’t speak for any of his siblings but I feel this had a negative effect on my boyfriend. He currently works in retail while doing his masters, and seems to have no real work ethic because it’s a “low skilled” job. He is focused on his studies, has good grades, and does spend time outside of his course building his portfolio for future employers. At times, he can be a bit entitled (without realising it) and I’m always bewildered by it. Growing up, I was always told that if there’s a bin i.e. McDonalds, you put your own rubbish into it and clear the table, whereas my boyfriend would leave his rubbish there because “people are paid” to clear up.

For context, I grew up Catholic and he grew up Protestant but neither of us actually practice either religion or identity with either denomination now. His parents are very much avid church goers and even tricked his sisters husband (Catholic) into weekly meetings with the local Protestant priest before they got married! All of the siblings are married but I don’t think any of them actually married Protestant. Whereas my own father loves rebel music, only steps foot into a church for either wedding or death, and my boyfriend never even knew what rebel music was until we met.

On the whole, they’ve been lovely and very welcoming of me, but I know they’re quick to snub the area I’m from and my boyfriend seems to overcompensate for this by telling them I’ve a degree and a good job. When I’ve met cousins and aunts, one of the first questions they ask is “you’re from X, aren’t you?” so I know it has been discussed privately. My own boyfriend passes no need but I feel my in-laws look down on me a bit for it.

As a result, I try to avoid his family get togethers as I end up feeling awkward around the older generation. AIBU?

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Aquamarine1029 · 08/07/2023 03:44

FGS, that was basically a novel .

You barely know any of them, including your boyfriend. Why don't you just relax and get better acquainted? You're making all this into a much bigger deal than it is.

Thehippowife · 08/07/2023 03:48

i think the reality of you being less privileged and still able to achieve so much shows you have drive and passion that are amazing qualities in a person. Don’t feel the odd one one, They are no better than you, they just had their lives handed to them by rich family members, whereas you strived for yours and worked hard to get it.

on the bf front. Next time he makes a “McDonald’s” comment. I would say “yes they get paid minimum wage to clean up your rubbish - so let’s help them and put ours in the bin!” A little reminder of other peoples hardships won’t hurt him.

P1ckledonionz · 08/07/2023 03:51

It sounds like you've noticed things that just don't sit right for you.

If you find his behaviour entitled right now it is only going to bother you more as time goes on, and he is not likely to 'grow out of it'.

You are allowed to call it a day on a relationship for any reason.

You don't need to overanalyze it, just notice the 'feeling' you have that it isn't right with his family, or for whatever. It's good to trust that feeling and listen because if you don't follow your heart you are highly likely to end up regretting it down the track.

It may be time to move on from this relationship. Staying in it means you are missing out on opportunities to form a relationship with a man whose values are more aligned with your own.

AssertiveGertrude · 08/07/2023 03:59

This isn’t going to work (I say this kindly)

you have different values and mixed marriages in Ireland (I take it) are tricky to navigate

twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:01

Aquamarine1029 · 08/07/2023 03:44

FGS, that was basically a novel .

You barely know any of them, including your boyfriend. Why don't you just relax and get better acquainted? You're making all this into a much bigger deal than it is.

You didn’t have to read it or respond!

I’ve known my boyfriend for a couple of years through mutual friends but only in any real relationship capacity since we became an official couple in December.

He hasn’t met any of my family yet bar younger sister, an aunt, and uncle in passing because there hasn’t been any real opportunities for him too.

He lives next door to his parents and you have to drive by their house to get to his, so a lot of the times when I have actually met his parents or family wasn’t really by choice or with notice but more a case of him pulling into their driveway for a chat and then being invited in for tea.

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theGooHasGone · 08/07/2023 04:01

I've always believed you can get a great idea of someone's character by whether they do the "right thing" when there's no reward for it - like putting their rubbish in the bin at McDonalds, or returning a shopping trolley to the right area of the car park at the supermarket. It sounds like your boyfriend and his family have a very different outlook on life to your own. Trusting your gut is a good idea.

HirplesWithHaggis · 08/07/2023 04:04

You're in a relationship for "a couple of months" and you have so many criticisms of him and his family?

redskyatnight99 · 08/07/2023 04:12

Wow you are worried if he leaves his food wrappers on a table??!!

twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:13

HirplesWithHaggis · 08/07/2023 04:04

You're in a relationship for "a couple of months" and you have so many criticisms of him and his family?

I’m not critiquing his family at all, I truly admire his parents and father in particular. They inherited their wealth and continued to work and grow their wealth outside of what was inherited. His father is in his 70s and still going! His own father wanted to be a pilot but was told he had to stay and work on the farm and decided he never wanted that life for his own children. So, both parents ensured their children all had a great education and were debt free, and I imagine we would only all love to be in that position to do such a thing.

My boyfriend never had to work until he graduated because his parents paid for his degree, accomdation, and provided him with an allowance so he could focus on his studies and achieve good grades (which he did, becoming top of his class). He never worked any “low skilled” jobs as he calls them in bars or retailing until recently, and has no real appreciation for them because he personally doesn’t find them stimulating. So, as a result, his work ethic is subsequently poor but he has a good work ethic when it comes to studying and building his portfolio.

My boyfriend is the first to say he’s privileged and none of the siblings disagree, they did have everything handed to them on a silver spoon and were fortunate growing up. I did call him out on the comment that I felt was entitled and he said he didn’t mean it like that but can see how it could’ve been perceived that way.

I’m simply stating I feel a bit looked down on by comments made.

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twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:15

redskyatnight99 · 08/07/2023 04:12

Wow you are worried if he leaves his food wrappers on a table??!!

I couldn’t care what he leaves lying around the house but I think it’s manners to clear up after yourself as best you can in any restaurant or picnic area to make someone else’s life a bit easier. I worked in hospitality for several years and really appreciated it when people tried to clean up by stacking plates together or glasses because every little helps. We were in McDonalds were there’s bins provided and I’ve never gone to a McDonalds with anyone who hasn’t put their rubbish in the bin so I was a bit confused as I thought it was normal practice!

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redskyatnight99 · 08/07/2023 04:23

@twodifferentbeans
Maybe he doesn't even like Mac Donald's and dropped his standards to eat there with you...

Missingthegore · 08/07/2023 04:28

Welcome to the little village of Belfast! Where generations of stigma are embedded.

Sushi4Dins · 08/07/2023 04:30

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CrazyArmadilloLady · 08/07/2023 04:31

Well, I can guess where you’re from due to all the Catholic / Protestant / rebel song references - and because anywhere else, and these just would not be A Thing (believe me, I’m in such a relationship, from another country), but it all sounds a big intense. And I guess it is, given where you’re from.

Leaving the ILs to one side, are you sure you’re even compatible with your boyfriend?

You seem quite disparaging of him.

It all sounds like very hard work for a couple of months in….

Sushi4Dins · 08/07/2023 04:31

Missingthegore · 08/07/2023 04:28

Welcome to the little village of Belfast! Where generations of stigma are embedded.

I assumed NI, but not necessarily Belfast. But, even with that, she’s being a bit excessive, I think!

CrazyArmadilloLady · 08/07/2023 04:36

And don’t roar at me everyone - it’s completely inconsequential, I know - but it’s just that it’s been referred to a couple of times…. 😬

It’s ‘handed on a silver platter’, and ‘born with a silver spoon in one’s mouth’. Sorry, sorry ….

twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:37

redskyatnight99 · 08/07/2023 04:23

@twodifferentbeans
Maybe he doesn't even like Mac Donald's and dropped his standards to eat there with you...

You are a comedian x

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bluejelly · 08/07/2023 04:38

I think you write beautifully!
The McDonald's thing would bug me too.
The rest of it - I would see how it goes. I think the difference in values is more important than difference in income. But only time will tell... good luck with it all.

MiddleParking · 08/07/2023 04:38

You sound like you’re conducting an anthropological study rather than talking about a brand new boyfriend. They’re hardly your ‘in laws’ and it sounds like you have quite fundamental misgivings about the guy’s values already so they’re not likely to be, unless you ignore said misgivings (which isn’t wise if they’re troubling you so much).

CrazyArmadilloLady · 08/07/2023 04:42

redskyatnight99 · 08/07/2023 04:12

Wow you are worried if he leaves his food wrappers on a table??!!

You genuinely(?!) don’t see the point she’s making…………………..?

HugoDarracott · 08/07/2023 04:44

I love the contempt some people have of low skilled work because they don't mean it is actually low skilled - your boyfriend probably can't pull a pint, manage customers etc. He means low paid. Nothing wrong with having aspirations to earn decent wage but looking down on others like he does is unpleasant. We can't all earn ££££ Not clearing up after himself is also an awful sign. I'd focus less on the family and more on what he does.

twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:46

MiddleParking · 08/07/2023 04:38

You sound like you’re conducting an anthropological study rather than talking about a brand new boyfriend. They’re hardly your ‘in laws’ and it sounds like you have quite fundamental misgivings about the guy’s values already so they’re not likely to be, unless you ignore said misgivings (which isn’t wise if they’re troubling you so much).

Of course they’re not actually quite literally my in laws & I was saying it figuratively; they are my boyfriends family.

The purpose of the post was to state I feel out of place, which I do, because of the area I am from and the upbringing I had. I’ve no shame in where I’m from and as stated only have good memories of the place.

Fair enough, there may have been too much detail and length, but I didn’t know how else to show the contrast between us.

My issue is how they have made comments on the area and my accent. I know they are quick to snub it because they have. When I’ve met other extended relations, the area I’m from is the first thing they ask about, and there is a certain tone.

The religious aspect doesn’t effect either myself or my boyfriend because neither of us are religious (agnostic) but his parents (mother in particularly) would love for her children to be with other Protestants, which, hasn’t worked out for her so far!

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twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:50

bluejelly · 08/07/2023 04:38

I think you write beautifully!
The McDonald's thing would bug me too.
The rest of it - I would see how it goes. I think the difference in values is more important than difference in income. But only time will tell... good luck with it all.

Thank you!

I do agree. We have been together since December and are really only beginning to meet family more full on now, especially as it’s summer and there’s how many events on.

Our relationship is more than fine and healthy, we have no issues, still cruising through our honeymoon phase (I was sent flowers to my work yesterday just because!) but of course, the upbringing differences does have some bearing at times.

I said I felt out of place with my in laws/boyfriends family, not my own relationship which I feel people missed.

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CrazyArmadilloLady · 08/07/2023 04:50

As before, I think the issue is less incompatibility with his family, and more incompatibility with him.

twodifferentbeans · 08/07/2023 04:53

HugoDarracott · 08/07/2023 04:44

I love the contempt some people have of low skilled work because they don't mean it is actually low skilled - your boyfriend probably can't pull a pint, manage customers etc. He means low paid. Nothing wrong with having aspirations to earn decent wage but looking down on others like he does is unpleasant. We can't all earn ££££ Not clearing up after himself is also an awful sign. I'd focus less on the family and more on what he does.

Exactly, I’ve tried to clarify this to him. I have a university degree and an extra qualification I earned, all of these costed money and time, but I can safely say I learned more from working part time in bars and shops as a student on customer skills, communication skills, time management, and more… than I did during my degree!

There’s been no other opportunities for him not to cleanup after himself so I am hoping it was just a one time thing, fingers crossed!

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