Men’s Asylum seeker accommodation next to school

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I feel quite ashamed by how I feel but want to know if it warranted.

There has been an announcement that a 500 men’s asylum seeker accommodation is going ahead against councils decision (it was overruled on a national scale). This is Stafford btw

It will be butted up to (no gap) to my DCs school and opposite a nursery. It’s not because they are asylum seekers that concerns me. It’s the fact it’a 500 men unit, with many with no known history / criminal records/ mental state.

I work over an hour away and currently my daughter who is 12 walks to the bus etc, she also does after school clubs then walks home alone. Most parents at the school are talking about moving their kids but in reality and logistically that’s not going to happen.

I genuinely feel scared for her safety. AIBU?
Its the location of it that’s wrong and the fact the council stated issues and concerns so refused it but got overruled by the government…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_hotel_stabbings

A) they're unemployed because they're not allowed to work. They may be qualified in other sectors most asylum seekers are those who could afford to leave their country of origin in the first instance so likely worked or were qualified individuals who aren't allowed to work here. B) what does their employment status have to do with it? They're not working by choice not because they've a record making work harder or because they're anti social and don't suit/ want to work or have been sacked.

And again https://www.arabnews.com/node/1271451/amp

@Lavender14 because not having a lot to do, in crappy conditions, living in uncertainty, with no clear end in sight has been proven to affect mental health and behaviour. That's without God knows what traumas they have from whatever made them run and the journey here. Add in the way they're treated, with suspicion, hated, unwanted, a burden etc. and you have a powder keg waiting to blow up.

The majority of these people have mobile 'phones so should be aware what the conditions are like, surely they don't expect that 'streets are paved with gold'?

In any event what you have said does not given them the excuse to break the law.

There's a refugee hotel near my home which I found very unobtrusive most of the time until one of the men when on a rampage and stabbed two people (i think they were other refugees but still, completely unacceptable)

Why are the UK stats different does anyone think?

Was it this one?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/surbiton-long-ditton-crowne-plaza-b2372106.html

Another poor ill-treated refugee here; https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-refugee-found-guilty-stabbing-29023893

That Afghan refugee had already killed two people in Serbia. "Brutal killings".

I think the point that many many people have made is it actually they haven’t suffered any drama whatsoever. They just would like a better standard of living and it’s a bit of a shock when they get here and discover the truth .

64% of men admit to harassing women in Egypt’s streets: report

https://www.egyptindependent.com/64-men-admit-harassing-women-egypts-streets-report/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/feb/09/pakistan-rape-epidemic-woman-attacked-park-islamabad

This is most unsettling -

https://kreately.in/taharrush-rape-game-mass-sexual-harassment-of-women/

That is terrifying. And even 7 year old girls are considered 'game'.

This is supposedly what happened on the NYE in Germany when 1200 women were sexually assaulted.

Oh for goodness sake, why are so many people so wilfully blind to violence against women and girls and the conditions that will encourage it.

If the proposal was to take 500 single men from the general population, deny them the opportunity to work so they're sitting around twiddling their thumbs all day and house them all together next to a school then the OP (and everyone else who lives in reality and gives a tiny stuff about child safeguarding) would similarly not be keen.

We KNOW that groups of men can be a problem and incite each other to bad behaviour - have you ever seen a stag do? The other day there was a stag do near one of my DD's sporting event, the men were drunk, shouting obscene things (at 12 year old girls) and grabbing their genitals.

It's a disaster waiting to happen.

Those who are all 'oh but there are predators everywhere' yes, but they're not discussing their strategies for abuse with each other the whole time and egging each other on, and there are ALREADY too many rapes in schools and sexual assaults both in and on the way to school. It's ALREADY unacceptable, why create the exact conditions to make it worse?

Basically you might as well say you don't care about child safety at all and think children suffering trauma is less important than virtue signalling you support refugees.

As I said before, this doesn't help the refugee population in reality, quite the opposite. It's virtue signalling that denies reality and makes everything worse for everyone, including refugees. Just so the people doing it can feel morally superior.

GB News say they are about to interview a man whose wife lost her hotel job

Lots of jobs lost here as hotel staff are replaced by SERCO

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12251981/Tensions-grow-Skegness-migrant-charged-raping-woman-park.html

I don't get that.
Your husband fled his own country to claim asylum because of persecution and being in fear of his life, then he gets married and goes back.
Why?

I think people are doing a disservice to women across the globe who live in countries where they are still seen as property, as inferior, who don't have anything like equal opportunities by trying to deny that in some countries this isn't the case; it is. Me don't lose all of these entrenched societal views they've been around since birth once they hop on a boat. This isn't saying all are rapists, of course not, but it is a very real issue.

Look at what is happening in France...

Maybe a war stopped or the political situation changed making it safe for him to return? Lots of asylum seekers do go home when it's safe to do so.

It's not that it's 500 men. It's that it's 500 socially excluded, potentially traumatised and likely now completely unsupported men who may have been harbouring misconceptions about what the UK is like and are now lacking community and are angry, disenfranchised or depressed, marginalised and subject to poverty.

Putting them next to some of the most vulnerable people in our society feels like a bad idea.

What’s happening in France?