Men’s Asylum seeker accommodation next to school

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I feel quite ashamed by how I feel but want to know if it warranted.

There has been an announcement that a 500 men’s asylum seeker accommodation is going ahead against councils decision (it was overruled on a national scale). This is Stafford btw

It will be butted up to (no gap) to my DCs school and opposite a nursery. It’s not because they are asylum seekers that concerns me. It’s the fact it’a 500 men unit, with many with no known history / criminal records/ mental state.

I work over an hour away and currently my daughter who is 12 walks to the bus etc, she also does after school clubs then walks home alone. Most parents at the school are talking about moving their kids but in reality and logistically that’s not going to happen.

I genuinely feel scared for her safety. AIBU?
Its the location of it that’s wrong and the fact the council stated issues and concerns so refused it but got overruled by the government…

Who's going to stop them ? Don't be so naive.

NIMBY

Correct you don't pick and choose what country you want to live in.

You flee your country and go to the first safe country.

The governments of the last 25 years in this country have been the most corrupt. The latest Tory government is so utterly crooked that they don’t even try to hide it anymore. They manufactured the asylum crisis just as most other crises to benefit themselves.

Where is the benefit in processing asylum claims quickly. The real benefit is in manufacturing a crisis so you can spend billions to fill your and your cronies pockets. £400m given to France to stop the boats, billions spent in housing and managing the migrants, a further several hundred million on Rwanda so far. They will be plenty of backhanders and brown envelopes making their way around government and Whitehall. The more they create problems, the more they can fleece the taxpayer.

Under the UN Refugee Convention, of which the UK is a signatory, there is no requirement for refugees to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach.

Seems like most asylum seekers are men. There’s a hotel full of them where I live. Most of them are men hanging outside the hotel in branded clothing , the latest phones and always smoking. I am not judging but they don’t look like they’re traumatised…..yes I would genuinely worry for my daughter too as most of these men are pevets.

I am not judging

Sure 🙄

Brexit did have an affect on immigration from outside the EU, the number shot up. France were helping control the flow across the channel when we were part of the EU, now they're not. Which was entirely predictable, in fact was predicted on these pages but hey ho Brexit was what "we" voted for anyway.

To all those screaming racism- give your head a wobble. I live not far from there and I would be very concerned if any group of 500 young men with nothing to do moved near me.
Barracks are NOT the same. Nearby army barracks are full of families, they have a strong community with lots of events organised, their own baby groups etc. It would be great if asylum seekers were taken care of in a similar fashion, but somehow I don't think it'll happen!
Add to it barely functioning hospital, full dentists and GP surgeries, hundreds of new houses being built. The whole town is not coping as it is.

Who do you think is going to stop them?
The naivety on this thread is fucking unbelievable

There are options - it’s called paying and getting the right visa. I’ve just done it for another country - expensive and time consuming, shame I couldn’t just rock up on a boat but that is not how immigration works. The 750,000 legal migrants that came here last year all went down that route. If migrants can pay people smugglers thousands why can’t they go down the legal route. The fact we don’t know a thing about these people is shocking - I had to pay for police checks to prove I wasn’t a criminal for my visa - if people are chucking documents away and not saying who they are and where they are from that is more than a little concerning.

Getting a visa is an entirely different process.

And rocking up on a boat? Like it's some kind of leisurely cruise? Did you miss all the people who died? Or did they just rock up to the after life?

@AngryGreasedSantaCatcus that's what I thought too. Is that even possible to claim an asylum visa. I think @Wizzbangfizz post is darn right racist and they don't even know it.

@Potaytoe5 I agree with the part about its a strain on our services housing, schools, dentist and so on and we cannot cope with it. The facts.... but @Wizzbangfizz and others are bring racists after writing sh*t like rocking up on a boat after all those people recently died. I can't imagine even stepping foot on that boat..do you honestly think the people paid thousands?? 🤔 for that type of boat so crammed?

I don’t think it’s disputed that people smugglers do charge thousands. They’re hardly offering a service for free.

@Gytgyt Clearly there is a need to support asylum seekers, but 500 in one building? Next to several schools? Nobody thinks to restore local hospital to its full function. Even the children's A&E is a good drive away. It's downright dangerous.
I think it would be best to not house 500 in one building tbh.

There are no NHS dentists taking on new patients in the new area. Getting a GP appointment is near impossible. There are at least 3 new housing estates being build in Stafford, with hundreds of houses each. The ones on the southern end of town will render it completely gridlocked as the are no roads to support so much more traffic! This town is struggling big time.

Hundreds of men with unknown histories and nothing to do being housed where hundreds of teenage girls and boys are walking to and from school.

What could go wrong?

Not RTFT, only OP's post and reply, but won't the asylum seekers be locked up anyway? In the country I'm in, they're in detention, it's like a mini jail. They are not allowed to leave the property unless under armed guard. It's not like they could harm the kids because they can't leave the facility.

I'm starting to see why people don't have an issue. Many posters seem to think these are desperate people fleeing for their lives who just ran. Rather than a fully planned for months using wider family savings and paying people traffickers. It seems many people have misunderstood why the claims might be agreed. That's why the smugglers run the business, teach them what to say to be approved and part of why they come! Even a legal bod upthread explained the attitude of the lawyers for this, they know the documents are destroyed so proof is lost. Some of the help given is how to make your story good enough to meet our asylum requirements.

@Potaytoe5 I agree with you and many others have stated too it's unnecessary there is plenty of empty buildings and land scales to build on. The point is you can have your opinion just like you and I.... without having a racists undertone.

Getting a dentist is horrific all over this isn't one particular area its up and down the Country. It sounds awful but we have got to the stage where we just can't go on like this.

Exactly why they want to come here and not other places. Our innocent until found guilty assumptions make it very difficult to justify locking people up even when it might seem sensible as they might not be who they say they are.
Anyone recall the 20 somethings claiming to be teens? Unaccompanied sent to Foster carers and schools. Quite a few issues there in both the care system and the schools for men who deliberately lie, hopefully to get quals rather than access to kids.

What Country are you in?

Australia.

And the smugglers are often bringing people in specifically to engage in crime. Drug production and dealing usually. Which very often involves the criminal exploitation of British children.

People here are incredibly naive. They just regurgitate whatever soundbite they last read on Twitter.

As bad as it is, the risk of death in these boats is tiny compared to the chance of earning more money in the black economy here. And specifically in the country. It used to be lorries across the channel but that route costs more because there is a higher chance of getting caught so smugglers charge a lot more for more intricate ways of getting people through the tunnel.

They would ordinarily not get travel visas to come here and disappear because they would need to show travel history, have a steady income back in their countries, or show that they have tourist visa sponsorship from someone here. Some come here and disappear that way. Many more do this via the student visa route, but that costs so much more in visa fees, having to pay a bogus college to sign on to a course etc. So paying a smuggler to cross in a boat is the cheapest way.

Once they get here, it is almost impossible to deport. Because of government policy to top up our cheap labour force to massage GDP figures and because it is expensive to get into a legal battle with human rights lawyers. It is also incredibly easy for migrants to get into the black economy.

It used to be the case that migrants wanted to disappear into the black economy, because there was at least some risk of deportation if they got caught. But now since there is no risk of that, it makes more financial sense to live in the hotels for free, go out and work - carwashes, warehouses, takeaways, restaurants, manual labour. Live for free and earn money makes a lot more sense. Someone else will usually send money back home on their behalf using money transfer services.

The rights and wrongs of what they do aside, the majority are NOT asylum seekers.

No. These are people awaiting asylum decisions, so not detained. Those whose application has been refused or are being deported may be held in detention centres.