Page 18 | To think Kate is truly picture perfect

julylover · 2023-07-06T23:31:20+00:00

I mean - who looks that good in all their photos. She’s just so beautiful and incredibly photogenic! Not to mention extremely good at tennis, all other sports and everything else in between. William could not have chosen a better wire! Kate is every inch the proud wife to support William at polo match [[https://mol.im/a/12270651 https://mol.im/a/12270651]]

BadNomad · 09/07/2023 11:33

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 11:17

badnomad and maireas

I always think of Harry and Chelsy Davy. They were great together, but shedidn't want that life and left.

and

Although, @BadNomad - Harry said he didn't want that life either.

It does make me curious why Harry didn’t leave the confines of the RF when Chelsy said it wasn’t for her.

Did he love Meghan more? Did he envisage more of a prominent role for himself in America? More opportunities? To be not the spare but the star?

Did he not fancy a life of out of the limelight with Chelsy? Was she not enough?

Chelsy may not have wanted the life. I get that. But to blame the press for the break up? It would have been a contributory factor possibly. The chance for a quieter life was there for the taking. And for whatever reason that road wasn’t chosen.

And I understand that H&M are still the subject of intense scrutiny despite leaving. My opinion of that is that it is likely due to their actions after leaving. I think it stirred the press pot. 💰

There is the great possibility that a quiet(er) life in Canada was there to enjoy. He didn’t seem to want to choose that either.

I think Kate and William are trying to balance it as best they can. Yes they are ‘public property’. That doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to a part of their life away from intrusion. And good on her for taking the photos of the children. They are her children. She should be able to choose what is released for private occasions like birthdays.

And so what if she takes the pictures? They have the same charm to them as any mam’s photos of her bairns. (Even photos where the mam has captured her adult arcanechild looking like a pissy gargoyle….)

Same with H&M. They are protective over their children too and release pictures of their home life as and when they choose to. And rightly so.

Hmm I think because he was a lot younger then. He might not have had the courage to step away and do it alone and he probably still felt loyalty and obligation towards his family. At that time they hadn't done anything wrong towards him, so it might have felt like a huge betrayal to abandon them then and lose their support.
The difference now is that when Meghan joined the family, Harry did not feel he got the support from his family and "the firm" when the media and others were criticising her. I imagine he didn't feel he owed them his loyalty any more when he didn't have theirs, and he now has the ability to financially support himself, so he left.

As a royal, a quieter life means losing your family. That is not an easy choice to make.

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 11:38

I too liked the photo. It had a warmth to it and I prefer the more informal photos.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 11:43

And so what if she takes the pictures?
nothing, but they are no better than the photos I see everyday on social media, most of my friends take amazing photos of their children.

It's the fawning about normal photo just because of who she married which is funny

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 11:49

I do get what you are saying badnomad. Time may well have given him the strength to leave.

I disagree though that a quieter life would have meant losing his family.

If anything, it was the actions during and after the leaving process that may have damaged family relations irreparably.

Shame when it could have been different. In all sorts of ways.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 11:55

Yes, I think he could have had a quieter life. It could have been accommodated. H and M were offered a low key start, to live quietly, no official work, just to bed in. The offer for M to continue with her acting was just that - a kind of normalisation and accomodation. Choices were made, and even with the best of intentions, mistakes were made.
So. How do you move forward? You stop with the mindset that you're a victim/justice warrior and just try to take some positives (and there are many) and find a purposeful life.

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 11:56

And so what if she takes the pictures?

nothing, but they are no better than the photos I see everyday on social media, most of my friends take amazing photos of their children.

Which is precisely what I said directly after the quote you posted.

They have the same charm to them as any mam’s photos of her bairns.

The same. Not better. The same. No fawning.

My point was that she is entitled to release the photos she likes of her home life. Home life will mean that she (or William or another family member) is likely to take the photos - just like your friends.

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 12:09

Indeed maireas

We need only look at some of the RF threads on here to see how popular or unpopular their choices have been.

Opinions - just like recollections - may vary.

As I said, it is a shame. I don’t think they have found the freedom, peace and contentment that they hoped their departure would give them.

And now, due to some opinions, it may be a harder trek to get back on that road.

I think they still have it in them to do great things for so many causes. But like you say maireas, it is time to park the baggage and move forward. All sorts of positive happenings await them if they choose that path.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 12:24

The difference now is that when Meghan joined the family, Harry did not feel he got the support from his family and "the firm" when the media and others were criticising her. I imagine he didn't feel he owed them his loyalty any more when he didn't have theirs, and he now has the ability to financially support himself, so he left.

and good for him. It's obvious the treatment of Meghan was abysmal. The jokes and bet about the colour of their child, the blackamoor brooch, the video of William turning his side to Meghan and ignoring her while staring at the cameras. If that's how they behaved in public, you can imagine how it was in private.

There was enough speculation when Kate shrugged William off in front of Mary Berry. Why wasn't that scene cut off is anyone's guess.

Meghan behaved impeccably in public, turned up, did all the engagements required of her, and more, but was abused because she dared standing up for herself.

Harry was probably a bit naive to expect family support when he married a divorced mixed-race american, but I think it really damaged to royal family to be so out of touch with the real world.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 12:28

"the jokes and bet about the colour of their child"
Not even Harry and Meghan claimed that.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 12:39

I still would be very surprised if they found the jokes and bets as funny as Kate must have found the "door to manual" jokes.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 12:52

I have no idea what "jokes and bets" there were. However, maybe you have sources of information. All I know is what they've said in various interviews etc. Latterly, Harry said to Tom Bradby that they had never claimed that the RF was racist. It was the British press.

Mercurial123 · 09/07/2023 15:16

Maireas · 09/07/2023 12:52

I have no idea what "jokes and bets" there were. However, maybe you have sources of information. All I know is what they've said in various interviews etc. Latterly, Harry said to Tom Bradby that they had never claimed that the RF was racist. It was the British press.

I'd say discussing their child's skin colour would be racist?

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Maireas · 09/07/2023 15:24

Well. Harry later said it wasn't racist. So. Who knows what was said. Or when.

YouJustDoYou · 09/07/2023 15:32

Mercurial123 · 09/07/2023 15:16

I'd say discussing their child's skin colour would be racist?

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No. It's normal to wonder what prospective children will turn out like (speaking from the position of a mixed race family who used to wonder/dream about what our kids would look like when born. Or, I suppose to you, we were being racist to ourselves? 😂)

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 15:35

YouJustDoYou · 09/07/2023 15:32

No. It's normal to wonder what prospective children will turn out like (speaking from the position of a mixed race family who used to wonder/dream about what our kids would look like when born. Or, I suppose to you, we were being racist to ourselves? 😂)

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you really cannot see the difference between you talking about your own children, like any normal parent, and people laughing and taking bets about how dark and if they would be "ginger", when to top it up, they were already looking down at the mother?

Mercurial123 · 09/07/2023 15:54

No. It's normal to wonder what prospective children will turn out like (speaking from the position of a mixed race family who used to wonder/dream about what our kids would look like when born. Or, I suppose to you, we were being racist to ourselves? 😂)

Why would I think that's racist, I was discussing Harry. Meghan looked upset. Harry was "shocked" and wouldn't discussing the identity so it was hardly a cosy family chat?

Mercurial123 · 09/07/2023 16:03

Forgot to say this was from the Oprah interview.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 16:03

Where is the evidence that they were "laughing and taking bets"? Not the OW interview, nor any other interview or tv show they did.
Look at the transcript of the OW interview. That should clarify what was said.

Blossomtoes · 09/07/2023 16:07

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 15:35

you really cannot see the difference between you talking about your own children, like any normal parent, and people laughing and taking bets about how dark and if they would be "ginger", when to top it up, they were already looking down at the mother?

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Where do you get the idea that there were bets and or laughter? The Sussexes haven’t said that.

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 17:01

Recollections most certainly vary.

If there were indeed laughs and bets, I’d love to see where they said that.

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 17:02

or quite possibly this

Maireas · 09/07/2023 17:22

Quite possibly both! 😊

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 09/07/2023 18:52

Just google it, if you had the time to read every transcript and listen to every single interview they ever given, you surely have time to search on google.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 19:04

That was over the course of several years. Yes, I have time to Google, however, Harry and Meghan themselves never - on any occasion - claimed that there was "bets and laughter".

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 19:21

Sometime maireas when those choose to double down, they make themselves look twice the tit.

I look forward to the link.