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To think Kate is truly picture perfect

461 replies

julylover · 07/07/2023 00:31

I mean - who looks that good in all their photos. She’s just so beautiful and incredibly photogenic! Not to mention extremely good at tennis, all other sports and everything else in between. William could not have chosen a better wire!

Kate is every inch the proud wife to support William at polo match

https://mol.im/a/12270651

Kate is every inch the proud wife to support William at polo match

The Princess of Wales, 41, was cheering on the Prince, 41, as he took part in the Out-Sourcing Inc. Royal Charity Polo Cup 2023 at the Guards Polo Club in Windsor this afternoon.

https://mol.im/a/12270651

OP posts:
dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 08/07/2023 13:25

jeffgoldblum · 08/07/2023 12:18

This thread is just depressing! , women dragging another down , bitchy comments about looks ! , every stereotype that we have tried to show as false about ourselves being trotted out for display!

well, no. What is depressing is celebrating someone for her looks and slim figure, and slim figure only.

It's even more depressing to pretend she is "representing" anything simply because .. she's slim and grins to the camera.

If she was a private individual, there would be no issue, but as a public figure? It's laughable and depressing.

Blossomtoes · 08/07/2023 13:35

It would indeed be depressing if anyone had done that. There have been numerous posts recognising her non physical attributes like dignity, effectiveness in her job and discretion.

Grapewrath · 08/07/2023 13:43

Blossomtoes · 08/07/2023 09:22

Is anyone forcing you to read it?

I’m enjoying the different perspectives- doesn’t mean some posts don’t make me cringe

Mercurial123 · 08/07/2023 13:52

Isthisblocked · 08/07/2023 12:52

Leave her alone….. none of us know her…. She does her job to perfection and manages to maintain a private life where I hope she has rest and relaxation. She is a perfect future queen, that’s her job and she’s really good at it.

She gets plenty of rest and relaxation, surely? For me, the issue is the Royal Family. They are irrelevant, but if all it takes is a tiara and designer dress to keep you happy then good for you

DewinDwl · 08/07/2023 13:55

jeffgoldblum · 08/07/2023 12:18

This thread is just depressing! , women dragging another down , bitchy comments about looks ! , every stereotype that we have tried to show as false about ourselves being trotted out for display!

I find it depressing that people use of the words cunt, bitch and bitchiness to disparage posters they disagree with.

2bazookas · 08/07/2023 14:08

Kate strikes me as a thoughtful person who took a long time to size up the RF life and what she was letting herself in for. She studied Elizabeth, Anne, Camilla, Sarah, and Diana as examples and warnings of womens life as Royals.

Camilla is another very canny self-aware woman who studied Royal Examples and chose carefully which to copy or avoid.

Employ a great dressmaker and dresser, walk the walk, talk the talk, never complain or explain. Absolute zip-lip discretion and self-discipline on stage. Its an impressive performance for the few who can learn the script, act the part and carry it off.

Meghan's vain mistake was thinking she was such a great actress she didn't need a script or rehearsals. She could improvise, wing it, ignore the prompt.

Maireas · 08/07/2023 14:13

It's fine to criticise the monarchy, the royal family, the role of Kate, but the personal attacks and body shaming are steps too far.
I think it's possible to critique the role of a Princess of Wales, or her fashion choices without slagging off the woman herself.

ArcaneWireless · 08/07/2023 15:30

Well said maireas

Disagree with royalty, roles, whatever. Not everyone has the same opinion on the Monarchy.

But, if I may, a pile on (such as the one here) is far more depressing than the use of any word I, or others, might use to describe it.

Some are, after all, choosing to disparage a woman based on her looks, her shape, her health - mental or physical, her involvement as a mother, her family members, her life.

Anyone who objects to it is subject to accusations of fawning, subservience or sycophancy.

It isn’t that.

I don’t think there are many of us who would be ok with being subject to having that scrutiny or opinions turned back on us.

Could I have used another word or two? Absolutely. So I apologise for any offence I’ve caused to anyone.

Make no mistake though, the first post was not the gushing compliment some are taking umbrage with. It was a key to the floodgates. And it worked.

As usual.

Hadjab · 08/07/2023 15:39

Saschka · 07/07/2023 00:53

They always come across as the work of Kate’s PR agency to me 🤷‍♀️

1000%

Hadjab · 08/07/2023 15:43

Isthisblocked · 08/07/2023 12:52

Leave her alone….. none of us know her…. She does her job to perfection and manages to maintain a private life where I hope she has rest and relaxation. She is a perfect future queen, that’s her job and she’s really good at it.

Of course she does her job to perfection! What does she actually do again? Pops off to the odd charity where she has a few pics taken with some token [insert description of your choice] person. Goes to a gala dinner or three, makes small talk with dignitaries. Flirts at the tennis with retired tennis players. Wears clothes. Has babies.

Have I missed anything?

Maireas · 08/07/2023 15:46

flirts at the tennis
What? Plus....is that actually in anyone's job description??

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 08/07/2023 15:51

I'm going to sound so sycophantic you might want to throw up, but William did a grand job choosing Kate to be his wife. She's perfect for the Royal Family. We never see any strong emotion, any pain caused by MM's remarks against her, and she just gets on with the job gracefully. She just seems like a really lovely, kind person. The only thing I disagree with a bit is her overzealous focus on early years, as for me it was my teenage years that fucked me up more and I feel we need to really rescue the mental health of teens especially in the days of constant social media pressures. I've blabbered and digressed a lot.

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 08/07/2023 18:22

Hadjab · 08/07/2023 15:43

Of course she does her job to perfection! What does she actually do again? Pops off to the odd charity where she has a few pics taken with some token [insert description of your choice] person. Goes to a gala dinner or three, makes small talk with dignitaries. Flirts at the tennis with retired tennis players. Wears clothes. Has babies.

Have I missed anything?

It hasn't gone unnoticed that she keeps the engagements as close to her house as possible, unless she REALLY has no choice.

Pops in a helicopter or a car with the police opening the way for 10 to 15mn, wave to the cameras and the public, shake a few hands, nod and grin, and go home again.

She might be doing just the bare minimum expected of her, but it's astonishing that people are praising her and impressed by what little she does

dontbejealousofmyartisticflair · 08/07/2023 18:23

The only thing I disagree with a bit is her overzealous focus on early years

the Palace HAD to find something for her to "focus" on, taking a few photos of her children didn't quite cut it, don't we all.. and early years is the least controversial subject you could think about. It matters, of course, and no one is denying it does,

twinklystar23 · 09/07/2023 08:01

On the other hand could it not be argued that she weathered the snobbery of the upper classes. Could it be argued she's managed to do her public role professionally? In fact better than those who should have had advantage over her having been used and had mixed more closely on those circles? The nasty "doors to manual" comments to about her mother must have been incredibly hurtful, and that's what we know of. A woman from a relatively normal background has shown the toffs that she can do the role that many of them "aspire to" (Not just women here ) and does the job of being in the public eye without putting a foot wrong.

Has K.M smashed through the glass ceiling of aristocracy and the arrogant beliefs that many of them hold that they are better than the rest of us (look no further than the Eton educated ministers)

Just a thought....

Maireas · 09/07/2023 08:25

You certainly make good point, @twinklystar23 . I was just thinking that about Kate and also Sophie. In the European monarchies Letizia and Mary were also from non aristocratic and MC families, and have carved a successful role. I'm sure it's hard when you're up against the aristocracy and Eton types.

BadNomad · 09/07/2023 08:42

I don't think many women in the upper-class/aristocracy actually do aspire to do what she is doing. Historically, a wife would have been found for William (like Diana was found for Charles) but that's not the done thing any more. In reality, William didn't have many options. It's harder these days to attract an "elite" woman with little personal history, no career ambition, who is willing to suppress her personality and play a part in public. It's not a very modern role for a woman and not many women want that.

I always think of Harry and Chelsy Davy. They were great together, but she didn't want that life and left.

Maireas · 09/07/2023 08:44

Although, @BadNomad - Harry said he didn't want that life either.

twinklystar23 · 09/07/2023 08:45

I don't agree with a constitutional monarchy, per se. Hers and William job is to be "bland and boring" their role is to highlight various causes, institutions of the UK it is not about them. Kudos to any woman breaking into those circles,.
Also bet the gutter press hate that Kate releases her own pics of her children, on their birthdays, but also now Camilla! Not sure if it's a subtle two fingers up, who knows?!

Maireas · 09/07/2023 09:11

I think she's definitely controlling the images and just giving enough of her family life, @twinklystar23 .

ArcaneWireless · 09/07/2023 11:17

badnomad and maireas

I always think of Harry and Chelsy Davy. They were great together, but shedidn't want that life and left.

and

Although, @BadNomad - Harry said he didn't want that life either.

It does make me curious why Harry didn’t leave the confines of the RF when Chelsy said it wasn’t for her.

Did he love Meghan more? Did he envisage more of a prominent role for himself in America? More opportunities? To be not the spare but the star?

Did he not fancy a life of out of the limelight with Chelsy? Was she not enough?

Chelsy may not have wanted the life. I get that. But to blame the press for the break up? It would have been a contributory factor possibly. The chance for a quieter life was there for the taking. And for whatever reason that road wasn’t chosen.

And I understand that H&M are still the subject of intense scrutiny despite leaving. My opinion of that is that it is likely due to their actions after leaving. I think it stirred the press pot. 💰

There is the great possibility that a quiet(er) life in Canada was there to enjoy. He didn’t seem to want to choose that either.

I think Kate and William are trying to balance it as best they can. Yes they are ‘public property’. That doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to a part of their life away from intrusion. And good on her for taking the photos of the children. They are her children. She should be able to choose what is released for private occasions like birthdays.

And so what if she takes the pictures? They have the same charm to them as any mam’s photos of her bairns. (Even photos where the mam has captured her adult arcanechild looking like a pissy gargoyle….)

Same with H&M. They are protective over their children too and release pictures of their home life as and when they choose to. And rightly so.

BartholemewHolmes · 09/07/2023 11:20

twinklystar23 · 09/07/2023 08:45

I don't agree with a constitutional monarchy, per se. Hers and William job is to be "bland and boring" their role is to highlight various causes, institutions of the UK it is not about them. Kudos to any woman breaking into those circles,.
Also bet the gutter press hate that Kate releases her own pics of her children, on their birthdays, but also now Camilla! Not sure if it's a subtle two fingers up, who knows?!

I think they prefer something better than nothing

It’s more controlled than Diana days. The press don’t swarm Kate and her dc on the street as paps did back then but they can print the okayed event pics

Maireas · 09/07/2023 11:25

Yes, I wondered that, @ArcaneWireless - why didn't Harry take the chance to leave with Chelsey? He often said he wanted to live in Africa. That was her home.
Yet he married Meghan, then had a full on royal life, then swapped it for a full on celebrity life.
I wonder if he ever really knew what "leaving" meant. I suspect not.
Different point - I really love Kate's picture of Camilla: it seems to convey such a lot and is a very good composition.

jeffgoldblum · 09/07/2023 11:28

Very measured posts from both @ArcaneWireless and @Maireas , glad you both post , saves me typing out long posts myself ( I'm lazy!) 👍