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OFSTED spoke to DD alone

234 replies

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:31

Why the need to speak to her on her own in a separate room? How is this justified? I dont see the need for it and it matthews me feel uncomfortable.
Dd is 6.
She said the inspector asked her to read a book to her and then asked her time table as. And also asked her if she liked her school.

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mousemosaic · 06/07/2023 22:34

Their DBS checked and highly vetted as they work for the government. YABU, hugely. They’ll have been wanting to speak to her separately and will have spoken to a few children of different ages to see what the children think of the school. Your daughter’s teacher, and more importantly your daughter, will have consented to this.

TeaKitten · 06/07/2023 22:34

What worries you about it?

mousemosaic · 06/07/2023 22:34

*they’re

Motheranddaughtertotwo · 06/07/2023 22:39

They need to know that what your child is saying isn’t influenced by their teacher or another adult, that’s why they’d be alone. You’re over thinking it.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 06/07/2023 22:40

What are you worried about exactly? Reading to an adult outside of the classroom is perfectly normal, timetable or times tables? The latter is to see how well the school are teaching Maths. And a perfectly normal simple everyday question.

DogsDryWineAndCheese · 06/07/2023 22:42

Have you missed half of your post?

If not, I’m baffled by this non-event.

Choice4567 · 06/07/2023 22:43

Which part is bothering you?

LolaSmiles · 06/07/2023 22:45

I think it's quite intimidating for a child and students are likely to feel very put on the spot. Students aren't stupid and know when they're being tested or there's inspectors in. I'd not to that as a leader with students in my own school to capture student voice.

Having several smaller focus groups for an informal discussion with an inspector or two would be better in my opinion.

drpet49 · 06/07/2023 22:48

DogsDryWineAndCheese · 06/07/2023 22:42

Have you missed half of your post?

If not, I’m baffled by this non-event.

This.

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:49

I don't see the point of it. Standard school practice is to never be alone with a child. If they felt dd would be influenced by the presence of the teacher then it would be better for two inspectors to be in the room.

Dd is 6 - hardly old enough to 'consent'.

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WandaWonder · 06/07/2023 22:50

Is it because you have issues with your parenting otherwise I can't see what there is to be so upset about?

AxolotlOnions · 06/07/2023 22:51

I was always told that any outside agency coming into school to see my child had to be run by me first and that I had a right to be there but I guess OFSTED is different.

If you are unhappy with it you could ask how this was beneficial to your child and ask them to confirm that they missed no lesson or necessary rest time i suppose.

Believeitornot · 06/07/2023 22:51

Well unless you are sure you’re DD has it 100% right….
She could have been sat at tables outside (so many schools have tables in corridors) for example? Loads of people walking past all the time.

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:51

Maybe im annoyed that OFSTED think that 'rules' don't apply to them. ( school staff would not put themselves in 1:1 situation with a child in a closed room)

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Callyem · 06/07/2023 22:52

While I'm not sure what part of it you are not happy about, I think it is actually unlikely they were literally alone in a room. Most likely it would have been in a communal area or corner somewhere. If it were in a room, school doors are generally classed, windowed and open. Does your daughter need to consent to read with an adult at school?

ASandwichNamedKevin · 06/07/2023 22:53

It doesn't sound ideal from a safeguarding perspective (even for the inspector to not leave themselves open to accusations). It also doesn't sound useful as a way to gain any insight from a 6 year old out of her confort zone.

blackbeardsballsack · 06/07/2023 22:53

Do you just want schools to not be inspected and regulated to ensure that they are meeting children's needs then?

Or just for ofsted to magically guess? Or just to speak to other children, just not yours?

Callyem · 06/07/2023 22:53

Callyem · 06/07/2023 22:52

While I'm not sure what part of it you are not happy about, I think it is actually unlikely they were literally alone in a room. Most likely it would have been in a communal area or corner somewhere. If it were in a room, school doors are generally classed, windowed and open. Does your daughter need to consent to read with an adult at school?

*glassed

melj1213 · 06/07/2023 22:53

Where is the problem? OFSTED want to get an idea of the school so will have interviewed a range of students away from their teachers. They don't do so in groups as it can be intimidating for small children to be sat with two strangers they don't know, both watching the child, whereas one is much easier to have a natural conversation and a child is more likely to answer naturally.

Adults work 1:1 with children all the time - they will probably have been in a separate room but with the door open/visible through a window so people could see they were there but not actually hear what was said

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:54

I don't mind that she had to read or do the timestables.

Nor is this about how I view my parenting.
It is possible that she has relayed the information back wrong.

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toomuchlaundry · 06/07/2023 22:56

Internal school doors have windows in them for a reason

MavisMarch · 06/07/2023 22:56

Fgs OP getva grip. If you really want to go down the road you seem intent on insinuating why not go the whole hog and report the inspector to the police as a suspected paedophile.
If not, stop with the giant leaps and accept its part of the inspection process and inspectors are more stringently vetted than teachers.

cyncope · 06/07/2023 22:56

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:51

Maybe im annoyed that OFSTED think that 'rules' don't apply to them. ( school staff would not put themselves in 1:1 situation with a child in a closed room)

My dc were often 1:1 with an adult in a room at school.

AxolotlOnions · 06/07/2023 22:57

I would contact the school and ask them about it. As somebody who was subjected to a very confusing interrogation aged 7 by the headmaster of my primary school that resulted in social services being called and my brother being accused of molesting me, I agree that children should NEVER be questioned alone!

queenofthebongo · 06/07/2023 22:57

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:51

Maybe im annoyed that OFSTED think that 'rules' don't apply to them. ( school staff would not put themselves in 1:1 situation with a child in a closed room)

It's fine to be in a room with windows in the door when others know they are there. Do you not think 2 strangers would be more intimidating for a 6 year old?

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