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OFSTED spoke to DD alone

234 replies

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:31

Why the need to speak to her on her own in a separate room? How is this justified? I dont see the need for it and it matthews me feel uncomfortable.
Dd is 6.
She said the inspector asked her to read a book to her and then asked her time table as. And also asked her if she liked her school.

OP posts:
TeaKitten · 06/07/2023 22:58

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:54

I don't mind that she had to read or do the timestables.

Nor is this about how I view my parenting.
It is possible that she has relayed the information back wrong.

Sounds like a fuss about nothing then. Why was she upset?

melj1213 · 06/07/2023 22:58

So what do you mind? The 1:1?

Anyone working in a school, especially OFSTED are going to make sure that any 1:1 work is done by the book

Your DD may only have noticed that she went to a different room alone with the inspector, what she won't have noticed, as she's 6, is that the room they were in had windows out to a busy corridor across from the office where the receptionist could see in for the whole interview and had a glass door that was most probably open anyway ... Or they've gone to a communal space like a hallway/library etc where they could have enough "privacy" for them to have a conversation without being overheard but it is public enough for them to be in view at all times.

Callyem · 06/07/2023 22:58

AxolotlOnions · 06/07/2023 22:57

I would contact the school and ask them about it. As somebody who was subjected to a very confusing interrogation aged 7 by the headmaster of my primary school that resulted in social services being called and my brother being accused of molesting me, I agree that children should NEVER be questioned alone!

There is a HUGE difference in the two scenarios. Safeguarding questioning and reading with an adult are NOT the same.

toomuchlaundry · 06/07/2023 23:01

@AxolotlOnions what do you think the Inspector was asking?

As a governor I would ask pupils questions, similar probably to those asked by the inspector. I’m sure their parents weren’t told before I chatted with them

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 06/07/2023 23:01

Some children in school do work 1:1 with an adult. 2 adults and 1 child would surely be more intimidating. Was your child upset by this? If you're fine with what she was asked to do then is your issue that you feel she was unsafe in this situation?

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 23:02

My dd was not upset.

I don't think anything untoward happened.
But I just think that generally speaking it's not necessary, and potentially something could happen in such a situation.

OP posts:
FlamingoQueen · 06/07/2023 23:03

I think you are massively overreacting! Ofsted will of course speak to children without teachers being there otherwise children are not as honest. They also speak to staff on their own.

Tanith · 06/07/2023 23:03

I'd be pretty shocked if an Ofsted inspector had taken a child into a room alone. For his or her own safety, that should not have happened and it's worth clarifying for your own piece of mind.

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 06/07/2023 23:05

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 23:02

My dd was not upset.

I don't think anything untoward happened.
But I just think that generally speaking it's not necessary, and potentially something could happen in such a situation.

In that case probably best to let it go. DD isn't upset and you don't suspect anything bad happened. I'm sure there's other things some parents might find unnecessary too.

Yellowcar2 · 06/07/2023 23:07

We were OFSTED inspected a few months ago. All pupil interviews were in groups and a teacher was present throughout but just sat in the corner.
1:1 with the door shut with an unfamiliar adult is definitely a no no, just for the fact it would make most children uncomfortable.

TeaKitten · 06/07/2023 23:08

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 23:02

My dd was not upset.

I don't think anything untoward happened.
But I just think that generally speaking it's not necessary, and potentially something could happen in such a situation.

Like what? Nobody was upset, nothing bad happened, no event to be mad about really.

Motheranddaughtertotwo · 06/07/2023 23:08

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:51

Maybe im annoyed that OFSTED think that 'rules' don't apply to them. ( school staff would not put themselves in 1:1 situation with a child in a closed room)

Sorry to burst your bubble but adults at school are often alone with children. I’m a teacher and sometimes need to speak to or work with a child alone. I have 2 TA’s that often work 1:1 in a room with a child. We are all DBS checked and every single door has windows.

JMSA · 06/07/2023 23:08

YABU Confused

arethereanyleftatall · 06/07/2023 23:09

Oh for gods fucking sake. I am so fed up with people. Yabu.

FeelingwearyFeeelingsmall · 06/07/2023 23:09

It's perfectly normal. Ofsted always do this to a few students. Quite often the students comments get quoted in the full report. In a way it's a compliment to your DD as when I worked at a school we'd always try to make sure that the inspectors got to chat with our brightest and best.

Ofsted inspectors are fully trained in working with students one to one. Anyone passing will have been able to see into the room, either through a window or an open door.

MargaretThursday · 06/07/2023 23:11

That's normal ime. When they were at our infant school the children chosen to do it thought they were really important to be chosen to show "how good they were at reading".

determinedtomakethiswork · 06/07/2023 23:11

When that happened in my college, one of my students was called out of the room and he said "oh fucking hell, what have I done now?" I think he must've been daydreaming when I was talking about OFSTED!

Callyem · 06/07/2023 23:12

Feel like Mumsnet needs to dedicate an entire subpage to 'Ridiculous things I want to complain to the school about'.

Just this evening:
I don't like my child's teacher's dog
My artsy child isn't being nurtured during tests
An adult read 1:1 with my child

Sugargliderwombat · 06/07/2023 23:12

Op I think you have a misconception here we are allowed alone in closed rooms with children. We only need 2 if they have wet or pooed themselves.

Sugargliderwombat · 06/07/2023 23:13

arethereanyleftatall · 06/07/2023 23:09

Oh for gods fucking sake. I am so fed up with people. Yabu.

I mean this also sums it up haha.

Inserthiliarioususernamehere · 06/07/2023 23:14

Ineedsleepnotsugar · 06/07/2023 22:49

I don't see the point of it. Standard school practice is to never be alone with a child. If they felt dd would be influenced by the presence of the teacher then it would be better for two inspectors to be in the room.

Dd is 6 - hardly old enough to 'consent'.

The inspector is from OFSTED, a government agency. They are there to see how the school teachers teach and how effective it is, hence talking to your child and asking them those questions without the influence of another child or teacher there.

How well your child (and the other children they would have spoken to) will give them an overall picture of how effective the school is in delivering the curriculum.

Also 6 years old is definitely old enough to start to be told and understand the subject of consent. At the school I worked at for 5 years, it was addressed from year R. Personally, focus on teaching your child more on that subject.

TheaBrandt · 06/07/2023 23:15

You sound absolutely neurotic. Can’t imagine this even registering with most people.

Riri24 · 06/07/2023 23:16

Ofsted inspectors are usually ex headteachers with many years experience teaching. They are have DBS. Very often kids have 1:1 reading time at school, which seems similar.

arethereanyleftatall · 06/07/2023 23:16

Callyem · 06/07/2023 23:12

Feel like Mumsnet needs to dedicate an entire subpage to 'Ridiculous things I want to complain to the school about'.

Just this evening:
I don't like my child's teacher's dog
My artsy child isn't being nurtured during tests
An adult read 1:1 with my child

Don't forget
'The school have a uniform, but I bought something totally different and how dare they mention it. Oh, and what I bought was skin tight hot pants.'

TheYearOfSmallThings · 06/07/2023 23:16

I'm a bit surprised they would do it, but I am guessing the rooms are like the ones in my son's school where the door and half the wall is glass, so the room is fully visible from the outside.

The same applies in healthcare settings (I work in a hospital). Staff may be "alone" with a child, but it will be in a larger space with other staff in sight. They would not close a door and shut themselves in a room with a child where they could not be seen.

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