Surely Wimbledon play should be stopping for today given the horrific incident at the school?

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Just that really....feels very disrespectful to all those affected.

And what would it even mean?

Someone else said it upthread, performative grieving.

We have turned into a society that has performative everything, performative about your 'feelings', performative about your 'whole self', performative about your morals and disgust, performative about grief, performative about anger and disapproval, performative MH

Totally self obsessed, naval gazing numpties.

A girl has died horrifically, her parents and her family are managing the situation as best they can I would imagine, what on earth would it mean for her death to have a silence or contemplation (whatever that means, what would be being contemplated exactly?)

They’re not connected and as sad as this was, the world keeps turning. It’s not disrespectful.

Sadiq Khan should reconsider his ULEZ policy, instead concentrating on banning vehicles more suited to rough country terrain driving than day-to-day use in urban environments.

No..don't see the link! Awful what happened but no link between a car accident and a sports event. There sadly lots of accidents every day.

Don’t be daft. What happened is tragic but tragedies happen all the time. Life goes on. Cancelling a load of tickets and doing stall holders out of business is not going to do a thing for the poor family

ULEZ was a Boris Johnson policy.

And even though it's been evolved by Sadik Khan, the idea of it is to benefit all Londoners.

It's not disrespectful to the dead for the living to carry on living.

And please, let's not cancel good things just because bad things happen. The ratio of good things to bad things is already massively skewed in the wrong direction.

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It would have caused chaos to the tournament, to public transport, to all the fans, to the economic infrastructure and it wouldn’t benefit the families involved at all.

It would be madness to cancel disconnected events. Technically, no one knows what happened yet in the awful incident at the school.

Knee-jerk token reactions, like yours OP, while well meant, help no one and cause further problems.

The tennis tournament is already severely behind the schedule due to weather. Stopping the game for the day would make it even more so and in the end it would lead to more injuries in game.
I'm pretty sure they would have done it if it had the power to save the child, but it wouldn't change anything.

Two minutes silence idea - it would just confuse people and noone want to deal with panicked crowd.

It is sad, but there is very little connection between those two events.

And?

What is the point of your inane responses on threads, like this one? If you just want to watch a thread, then click on 'watch thread' at the top.

If either of my children had died in any circumstances, the last thing I would have wanted would be performative grieving by total strangers.

It's even worse than people who flytip cellophane flower wrappings and cuddly toys when a child dies, just ghoulish and inappropriate.

But these idiots coming up with this nonsense are surely more upset than the girl’s family. It’s a compassion contest. Virtues must be signalled.

there's nothing "performative" in showing some respect. Shame some people are so used to think themselves as the centre of the world and have no care for anyone else, they can't comprehend that not everybody is the same.

People used to show respect in front of a funeral car or procession, now the idiotic numpties try to overtake.

Acting like nothing has happened is wrong.

The indignation and virtue signalling about other people making a small gesture is sad.

Make a gesture. You don’t need anyone else to do it with you nor do you need to tell anyone you’ve done it

'But why? It's terrible and very sad but honestly just why would that help in any way?'

I mean, why acknowledge any loss in any way if you're going to look at it like that? The loss of a child is tragic and a public acknowledgment of that might mean a lot to the family. They might not want that, we might never hear any more about it, and that's totally understandable too. It's between the organisers and the family.

'We have turned into a society that has performative everything, performative about your 'feelings', performative about your 'whole self', performative about your morals and disgust, performative about grief, performative about anger and disapproval, performative MH'

If you want to talk about performative about grief, look to the past. Keening, for example. I sometimes wonder if we aren't becoming more Victorian because every thought or emotion expressed these days seems to give someone or other the vapours.

I think my point though was that things like minutes of silence (no matter how "rare" and "sacred") are generally for the public's benefit... It's a bit of "grief porn". Words like "overdone", "hit the right note" etc. It's not a surprise birthday bash!

I know sympathy and even sadness is real. But again, it's whatever arbitrary victim/death the public WANTS to feel sympathy and sorrow for. It's usually based on the victim(s) being from a certain demographic, plus based on the media cycle.

So, people can have as many minutes of silences as they like since it's never meant much imo. If it is for the victim's (rather than public's) benefit in any way, it may go some way in comforting their living family and friends – so more certainly doesn't hurt.

Its actually a very self centred thing to be considering and stopping a days play is not a small gesture

People are so selfish today that they make everything about themselves, this tragedy is not about 'us' or the OP or the people at the sports event that is Wimbledon.

Its not showing 'respect' that is a totally misused and overused word that has also lost any meaning.

Well thats a good point actually.

Don't forget Andy Murray and his mum Judy are from Dunblane and both boys attended the school concerned so know all about school tragedies and parents waiting outside and all the associated horrors of an incident like this.
So lm sure they would voice opinion very strongly if they felt playing on was in any way insensitive.

The chair of the club visited the school today, stating that they feel closely associated with the community. So they obviously felt it was important to pay respects in some way.

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Yes, an increasing thing. Phoney grief by proxy. 🙄

Probably to placate the sort of mentality the OP has. Its meaningless

Have they popped in to Mrs Coggins family down the road, she died last night after a long battle with terminal illness?