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Advice please - coercive control?

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rosesarentred3 · 06/07/2023 14:54

I'll start by saying if anyone recognises me from other threads I've created under a different name, please do not put those links on this post as all the info added together would make me easily identifiable to friends and family.

After being in my marriage for 10 years, I can see now that I believe my partner is controlling. I see a therapist who feel strongly that this is happening.

There are too many examples to list but I'll list a few:

Starting random arguments about my family out of nowhere, it literally could be anything. Then DP says to me 'see, look, we're arguing because of them, look at what they're doing to us! We shouldn't have contact with them'. This is about various family members and friends. DP has fallen out with many members of my family so it's awkward to see them.

If I leave a wrapper on the side, DP will be annoyed at me, tell me off, go on and on at me about it. But then does the same herself. If I said something she'd go mad.
The other week I said one night that I was going for a shower abr her response was 'does this kitchen look clean to you? Can you honestly say this is clean? Clean the kitchen before you have a shower'.

Saying what clothes to wear and not wear. I put on some summer pants and DP says 'you really look big in them. Honestly, if you're conscious about your weight I wouldn't wear those, they make you look massive'. I'm a size 10. Not that that matters.

My work is extremely confidential. DP will ask me for confidential information about my work saying 'if you don't tell me then you don't trust me' and will badger me about it and eventually not speak to me for long periods of time because I haven't divulged information.

Tells me regularly I wouldn't survive without her. What would I do without her? How did I manage before? etc.

My confidence is so low. I rarely see my friends. I've lost loads of friends since is being together.
DP told me when we first got together that some of my friends who I saw all the time had been speaking about me behind my back saying awful things and made sure we broke ties with them so I don't see any of them anymore.

Will get really mad at my family and say it's just because she's trying to protect me. Even though there's nothing to protect me from.

We have a child. When I was pregnant she insisted that she take the shared parental leave because I'd had enough time to bond with the baby while I was pregnant so it was now her turn. So I returned to work after having the baby. I cried to dp and said I really wanted to be with the baby and couldn't bear the thought of leaving her. But this just turned into an arguments where DP would cry saying she wanted time off with the baby.
A part of me felt like it was the right thing to do because DP continuously told me I wouldn't manage on my own, that I'd probably forget to do what I needed to do with the baby etc. and I really started to worry that would be true and agreed for her to take the leave instead.

Anyway - what I wonder is, what do I do now? I feel like I can't be in this relationship. I don't feel loved. I haven't ever felt loved in this relationship. Do I just leave? In which case this means selling the house and sorting shared custody etc.

Do I try to spend some time building my confidence first? Making friends? Going out more? Meeting people?
I'm always at home. I work at home. Then when I'm not working, I'm always with DP to the point where I now feel extreme anxiety whenever I go somewhere without DP.

Today I was planning a day with DC. DP then started a big argument with me, slagging of my family again etc.
however, I came out.
Is it completely pathetic that I feel chuffed with myself for coming out? I wasn't as anxious as I usually am. Years ago, I wouldn't have batted an eye at coming out on my own.

It all feels such a mess.

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scoobysnaxx · 30/08/2024 21:14

How are you OP? Still thinking of you x
@rosesarentred3

rosesarentred3 · 06/09/2024 15:08

@elloyellow
Thank you so much for this. I will save it and have a read of it.

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rosesarentred3 · 06/09/2024 15:11

I'm sorry for the delay in replying. Yesterday was our last day in the house.

The house is finally fully sold and we packed everything up and moved out yesterday.

It was incredibly hard. Really, really hard in so many ways. I was really emotional.

She was being really lovely and helped me a lot and she has been the same today.

It's reminding me of how good things can be when we are chatting and laughing and she was really supportive.

I'm left completely drowning in regret. I'm so sad. I feel utterly heartbroken and wonder if there's anything more I could've done. It's really painful and I felt so awful and sad saying bye to her.

I know I will see her all the time because we are having 50-50 custody of our daughter, but I just feel like I could have made a huge mistake and I don't know what to do.

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Mummyofthewildones · 06/09/2024 15:27

Have a read back of this full thread to remind yourself of all the awful things this person has done to you over the past months, and know that you have done the right thing.
It's the end of an era but the beginning of the rest of your life. It will be brilliant for your child if you can be amicable with each other, but your ex hugely crossed so many lines and messed with your head so badly, a person like that does not change.
Stay strong, OP. Wishing you all the best for a happy future ❤️

ManateeFair · 06/09/2024 15:37

rosesarentred3 · 06/09/2024 15:11

I'm sorry for the delay in replying. Yesterday was our last day in the house.

The house is finally fully sold and we packed everything up and moved out yesterday.

It was incredibly hard. Really, really hard in so many ways. I was really emotional.

She was being really lovely and helped me a lot and she has been the same today.

It's reminding me of how good things can be when we are chatting and laughing and she was really supportive.

I'm left completely drowning in regret. I'm so sad. I feel utterly heartbroken and wonder if there's anything more I could've done. It's really painful and I felt so awful and sad saying bye to her.

I know I will see her all the time because we are having 50-50 custody of our daughter, but I just feel like I could have made a huge mistake and I don't know what to do.

OP, I’m so sorry to speak to you as bluntly as this, but:

This woman was an abusive, controlling cunt who treated you like utter shit. She is absolutely fucking horrible and she made your life a misery, sent your self-esteem to way below zero, manipulated and hurt you and spent your money. If you go back to this absolute horror of a woman she’ll destroy your life AND YOUR CHILD’S LIFE.

So she managed not to be a total cunt for five fucking minutes when you were moving out? How does that make up for the years of abuse, threats and coercion? SHE IS MANIPULATING YOU. She WANTS you to regret leaving, which is why she’s suddenly started being nice.

You are an intelligent woman. Surely, SURELY you can see what she’s doing? It’s textbook abusive behaviour. She’ll keep doing this. And if you cave in and go back to her, she will instantly abuse you again. Forever.

Read this thread back. She fucking broke you. Don’t let her do it again. She is a serious domestic abuser. She is a danger to you.

PurpleHiker · 06/09/2024 16:16

Please trust that you have made the right decision. She stopped you from bonding with your baby when you were really vulnerable - that is unforgivable. Don't let her short-term kindness make you forget all the horrible things she did. Be friends with her if you must for the sake of the shared custody of your child, but don't allow this to make you regret your decision. You've done the hardest thing. Just take each day at a time. Enjoy time with your child without treading on eggshells. You've got this. Good luck.

Aroundthebend · 06/09/2024 16:26

So pleased you are finally free. Please remember that a leopard can NEVER changes its spots! They can temporarily put a mask on and behave impeccably. Even keep this model behaviour up for a long time, but ultimately their old behaviours will return, subtly at first then full blown return and worse.
keep rereading this thread, print it off and keep it close, reread and remember what you were put through. You will forget many details over time, maybe romanticise and wonder ‘what if’, those times will be hard but reread this, come back here, we will remember and support you.
xxx

OopsyDaisie · 06/09/2024 16:41

I just saw this is an updatebon a very old post, I rushed! Sorry
so mybinitial post nonlonger applies, but im happy you're managing to turn your life around

The example are horrible OP, the maternity klleave bought teams to my eyes! You could have taken shared time atvthe same time! So you both would be bonding, but she completely dismissed and gaslit you!
Can you leave? Start planning, re-connect with family and frienda so you have a support system and when you can afford it LEAVE - create a better life for yourself! You can do it!

OopsyDaisie · 06/09/2024 17:19

@rosesarentred3
JustvtidaybI came across your post, I read all your updates atvthe same time and so I have the story "like a book", as I know it's been a year since everything started...
So your last update wondering if you've made a mistake and could have done anything differently... absolutely NOT!
You've done the right thing, have been brave and VERY VERY STRONG!
I know leaving the house will activate so many long-lost memories of better days, but you will make a better life for yourself! You will find happiness and be truly appreciated and understood.
Are you still going to therapy? Do you have custody agreed on?
I wish you all the best, and please know how brave you really are! Never forget it

nutbrownhare15 · 06/09/2024 17:54

I'm so happy for you! You have done amazingly and have created the pathway for a happier, freer abuse free future. It may not feel like it now and your abuser knows how to manipulate your feelings for sure. But I expected to read this thread and see you were still trapped so this is an amazing update. Well done. It will be hard but you will build a brighter future.

RandomMess · 06/09/2024 18:14

You are doing the right thing and in time I suspect you will have more than 50% shared care.

KOKO Flowers

WiddlinDiddlin · 06/09/2024 18:23

You have 100% done the right thing, she knows it and she knows she's lost.. thats why she's being nice, so she can make you doubt yourself.

As PP have said... read back some of your earlier posts, about the things has said and done to you.

Those things, those words and those actions are the real her. Not this sweetness and light version.

Zoreos · 06/09/2024 18:38

You have done absolutely the right thing. Once an abuser realises they have lost control they employ final ditch attempt tactics being “kind and charming” to try and reel you back in. Stay strong and grey rock and she will soon return to the person who she really is. As others have said read back through your thread and remind yourself of the person who made your life a living nightmare and the way in which she abused and controlled you. This is more of the same manipulation just with a different face because she now is not in reach of you anymore and she knows it.

I think about you often, most notably the maternity leave, hurting you, recording you, lying about you and turning your friends against you. The astronomical level of manipulation that she gave you. Remember how she left you to care for your DC all on your own on those long nights where you struggled and how she ignored you both to suffer. It’s awful to have to say these things to you because you’re in such a position of strength now but it’s very easy to forget when you’re out of the fog and into the light just how dark it really was. It really is above anything I’ve ever read on here and I am so very proud of you, one stranger to another for how far you’ve allowed yourself to come.

Please take care to be rid of her beyond basic communication about your DC and enjoy your new found freedom and life with your child. You really deserve the very best and to be without her is it we promise.

EarthaKittsVoice · 06/09/2024 20:50

rosesarentred3 · 06/09/2024 15:11

I'm sorry for the delay in replying. Yesterday was our last day in the house.

The house is finally fully sold and we packed everything up and moved out yesterday.

It was incredibly hard. Really, really hard in so many ways. I was really emotional.

She was being really lovely and helped me a lot and she has been the same today.

It's reminding me of how good things can be when we are chatting and laughing and she was really supportive.

I'm left completely drowning in regret. I'm so sad. I feel utterly heartbroken and wonder if there's anything more I could've done. It's really painful and I felt so awful and sad saying bye to her.

I know I will see her all the time because we are having 50-50 custody of our daughter, but I just feel like I could have made a huge mistake and I don't know what to do.

I've RTFT. I struggle to understand why you haven't reported her, with your full evidence, to the police. You are allowing your DC to be around your abuser who will continue to talk bad of you to your DC. She will continue to poison your name. Your DC is of your bloodline - why would you allow this still?

And you are paying for everything. What happened there then?

Your ex wife is a horrible human. A total cunt.

scoobysnaxx · 11/09/2024 21:07

Congratulations OP. I am so so pleased for you and your daughter.

I completely understand that despite everything, it was a very sad and emotional day for you.

I also agree with everyone else. And deep down you agree too.

You made the right decision. 100000%. In every way. On every planet. In every which way. It was the RIGHT DECISION FOR YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER. Always will be.

I think feeling regret and doubt are normal emotions to experience after such a tumultuous, manipulative and abusive marriage. Completely normal and expected. It's part of the cycle of abuse. THE LAST CYCLE.

You are now free and you can begin to rebuild.

You are entering a new chapter of your life and it is so exciting and nerve wracking!

But we all stand to be corrected. You will never regret this decision. Deep down you know you had to make it.

Even in 30 years you'll know it was the right one.

The future is daunting, but so exiting.

So if I've yourself time, space and a lot of grace!

You did it. What so many others don't - YOU DID.

🌺

scoobysnaxx · 30/12/2024 19:18

Hope you are okay. I still think about you. I hope the holidays were somewhat peaceful for you xx

rosesarentred3 · 30/12/2024 19:42

@scoobysnaxx

Thank you. I hope you're having a good Christmas period.
Sorry I haven't been on to update for a while.
I have had to move several times over the last 3 months but we're finally in our new home.
Things have been quite up and down.
Thank you for thinking of me.

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RandomMess · 30/12/2024 21:04

@rosesarentred3 I hope you are ok and settled Flowers

scoobysnaxx · 13/03/2026 23:14

@rosesarentred33 years on and I still think about you OP. I’ve just searched and searched for this thread.

Are you and your DD okay?

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