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To not want to care for my mum every morning?

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Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 09:29

First of all I need to say that the title makes me sound an awful dd but hear me out, so sorry it’s long winded.

I am 50, married with a 17 year old ds and 15 year old dd.

My parents are in their early 80’s. Dad is in good health but sadly my lovely mum is not well. She is bent over with osteoporosis, has a pacemaker/heart disease and has had Alzheimer’s since 2017. As with this awful disease, she is getting worse as time goes on.
If you met my mum you probably wouldn’t think there is too much wrong with her (other than her physical issues as she is bent over with the osteoporosis and looks so old) but we see such a huge difference in her and her capabilities. Mentally she can be very much like a small child now.

Over the last few years my dsis and I (dsis also lives very nearby with her partner) have started to help mum and dad quite a bit. My sister works full time running her own cleaning business and will pop in a couple of times a week and also cleans once a week for them.
I go round at least 5 times a week to help them. I was washing mums hair but insisted they get a hairdresser in once a week as I’m not the best at blow drying! I change and wash their bedsheets once a week, I order all of mums medications and collect them from the pharmacy, I cut mums nails for her, organise her wardrobe and clothes (she has a tendency to mess thing up and put stuff away in the weirdest of places), I organise and keep all of her hospital and medical appointments, do all their life admin, take mum to her day centre once a week etc.
On a Tuesday and Thursday I wouldn’t pop in as I was working but sadly was made redundant a fortnight ago so have been popping in every day since.

The problem is that my dad is becoming overwhelmed with being mums carer, it doesn’t come naturally to him and he gets angry that his life is over too and will often say it’s all a burden to him. I feel so sorry for him but truly believe that if I said I’d would give up my life and care for mum full time then he would happily take a back seat with it all (this does annoy me as I wouldn’t and won’t dream of asking my dc to care for me at any time but dad is old school and believes daughters should help out).
For a long time he refused any outside help, he said carers were a waste of money (he is very tight with his money) and mum wouldn’t like people in her house caring for her (this is true she will make a fuss but most dementia sufferers would be the same as they just don’t acknowledge they are unwell).
Money is far from an issue here for they have hundreds of thousands in the bank.
A year ago, I did eventually insist they got a career in as the stress was making me very unwell (I was close to a breakdown) and I was doing everything like their washing etc which I’ve now made dad do as he is more than capable of doing washing and hanging it out. I have these daily anxiety and gut issues which have been very bad over recent years probably exacerbated by worrying about my parents all the time and just couldn’t do everything.
Anyhow, I arranged for a lovely lady carer to come in, initially once a week for companionship and to give dad a break and then we were to up the care as time went on. However, this never happened, dad insisted all was ok (but would moan to me all the time that it wasn’t), and eventually let the carer go.
So, currently, apart from the once a week at the day centre where mum goes for the afternoon, my dad has no other help apart from me going in every day and my sister a few times a week.

The issue now is that my dad moans every day that he is struggling with mum every morning and that she is getting worse. She often refuses to get in the shower, doesn’t wash herself properly and is now not dressing properly. Yesterday I went round to find her in the trousers she had been in all week (with stains down them) and wearing a winter cardigan buttoned up with nothing on underneath. I helped her get into different clothes but it was hard for she kept saying she didn’t want to wear anything else and that she does not care what she looks like. This is heartbreaking as my mum loved clothes and always used to dress so lovely. She also tells me every day she wants to die which crushes me.
I would love to be the person to go in every morning and help but the truth is that I feel so poorly every morning, I am riddled with anxiety, have had such an exacerbation of my IBS/gut issues recently that I need to be by a toilet every morning and just don’t have it in me to care for my mum every morning whilst feeling this way as it’s such an overwhelming emotional thing to care for a parent, a professional carer obviously doesn’t have this emotional attachment. Watching your lovely mum’s brain waste away is such a sad thing to witness. I also have my dd to get ready in the morning as she has inattentive adhd and if I did not shimmy her along she would be in bed still at midday. My dog also needs walking in the morning (he’s a rescue and has anxiety issues), I can’t just give up on them to go care for my mum.

I have told dad all of this and he accepts it but looks very disappointed and upset. When I first told him I’d been made redundant his face lit up like a Christmas tree, he said it was for the best as I could now take the ‘burden’ off him and become mum’s carer! It makes me feel such a bad daughter to say no but surely I need to put my mental and physical health first? I also need to find another job but can’t do this if I am crumbling away physically and mentally.
So today, I have contacted a care company to ask if they can come in and help every morning.

I feel like a failure but the cold hard truth is I don’t want to be my mum’s main carer and that makes me feel like shit.
AIBU?

OP posts:
midlifecrash · 23/06/2023 10:44

Tell your dad that your contribution is to manage the care, which is a whole job itself, and that your mum now needs professional help and you will organise it

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName · 23/06/2023 10:45

SisterDonnarix · 23/06/2023 09:33

Your dad can martyr himself all he likes, but he can't make you into one as well.

Professional care is needed.

Don't allow him to do this to you. Don't be available.

I order all of mums medications and collect them from the pharmacy, Just on a side note, you can do this online, and have it delivered free as well

Mmhmmn · 23/06/2023 10:48

SisterDonnarix · 23/06/2023 09:33

Your dad can martyr himself all he likes, but he can't make you into one as well.

Professional care is needed.

Agree with this.

Mrsjayy · 23/06/2023 10:48

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName · 23/06/2023 10:45

Don't allow him to do this to you. Don't be available.

I order all of mums medications and collect them from the pharmacy, Just on a side note, you can do this online, and have it delivered free as well

Yes you can get her meds blister packed and delivered so that's something off your shoulders organise it today for her next prescription so it's between the pharmacy and gp.

overitunderit · 23/06/2023 10:53

I know it's easy to say when you're not the one dealing with it but you need to be really firm with your dad and not accept any excuses and do not backdown. Even if it means falling out with him. You are entitled to have your own life, space and look after your own physical and mental health and he is not entitled to assume you will be primary cared for your mother. It's unacceptable behaviour.

Call the carers today and get someone booked in every day. As it's you who has PoA get the invoices and contact details all set up with you so that your dad can't cancel.

Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 10:53

I think I may need to do that Bookist I’m fa t my dh said why on earth did you tell him you’d been made redundant? Which was stupid of me, I should have seen this coming.
GulesMeansRed it’s just awful isn’t it? People just don’t see these things. My dh ex work colleague actually put his wife in hospital, although elderly and suffering from dementia he was still strong and broke her jaw. He was a gentle giant previously and would never have laid a hand on his dw, it’s a heartbreaking disease.

The issue I have GulesMeansRed is that my sister is very much like my dad personality wise and she will often take his side. Of course I totally understand his frustrations and what he has to deal with but dsis will often say mum winds her up or that she drives her insane with the things she says/does etc. This annoys me because it’s obviously not my mum, it’s the disease! I also believe (secretly) my sister thinks if I do all the donkey work she doesn’t have to. I often see her car at home early afternoon when she has finished work early. Of course that’s her prerogative but also stings when she knows how much I do. Then she has the cheek to message me and say ‘oh mums nails are looking long, they need cutting but you’ll have to do it as I can’t do it, it makes me feel sick!’ Etc…

OP posts:
SeaToSki · 23/06/2023 10:54

Use your PoA to hire careers and be crystal clear with them that they work for you and your DF cannot fire them. Then let your DF know what you have done and tell them that if he interferes you will raise concerns with SS that he is Elder Abusing your DM. That might be enough to get him to step back enough to get used to the careers and then he is likely to end up grateful for them.

Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 10:55

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName originally I had it all set up for pharmacy delivery but dad made such a fuss saying it was inconvenient if they were out shopping etc and they were delivered to next door etc so I had to change it to collection from our local pharmacy!

OP posts:
thing47 · 23/06/2023 10:57

what upsets me the most is that 80% of the thousands in the bank is actually mums money, from the sale of my grandparents house which was willed to her and her only.

Hang on, so most of your parents' money has come from her side of the family? And you and your sister have LPA? Just organise the carers yourselves, pay for it out of their savings – isn't that exactly the sort of thing savings are for? – then inform your father what is happening.

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName · 23/06/2023 10:58

Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 10:55

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName originally I had it all set up for pharmacy delivery but dad made such a fuss saying it was inconvenient if they were out shopping etc and they were delivered to next door etc so I had to change it to collection from our local pharmacy!

not your problem - if he cant deal with the delivery, then he needs to do it the old fashioned way.

back away - go on a month long holiday

rookiemere · 23/06/2023 11:06

Can you get the meds delivered to your house? One less trip at least

billy1966 · 23/06/2023 11:06

You then HAVE to arrange her care in a nice place.

Get on to adult services and mention his anger and frustration.

Do not protect him.

Tell the truth.

Your mum deserves a safe place.

Sometimes we have to make tough decisions that are painful for the bigger picture.

I have had friends go through variations of what you are going through.

Both with tight controlling fathers with plenty of money🙄.

One told her mother that she was welcome to come live with them as her father was so difficult.
He couldn't believe she would actually go.
She did.
Her mum had a lovely break from her husband and it took him handing over full POA to his two daughters before she would return.
They got cleaners in, a gardener, meals delivered etc.
Her father actually really enjoyed all the coming and going and upped the hours of the gardener as they got on so well and he loved ordering him about.

My other friends parents, both of them, didn't see why she and her husband shouldn't spend their weekends cleaning their house and garden, despite working full-time with children.
Her husband cracked and told her she was on her own and there was no way this was going to be HIS life when they had so much money in the bank and her two siblings lived a couple of hours away.
My friend was very upset with her huxband initially, but myself and a few friends put HER straight znd told her that SHE was being selfish expecting this from her husband and she had better watch her marriage!
She was shocked but took it on board and made the necessary changes of a gardener etc., insisting on carers, cleaners etc.
She loved her parents but accepted she wasn't prepared to risk her marriage further.

You are not alone in your situation.
It IS replicated around the country many many times.

It is difficult when there is no money for help, but when there is, there is no excuse.

Their age and needs do not trump your health, marriage, children.

Your mother was a wonderful parent to you, repay the gift by protecting her now by making the tough but right choice of a care home.

Personally a selfish father would not be my priority, but then I am a, 'you reap what you sow' kinda gal at this stage of my life.

Please focus on YOUR health as much as your mother's.

We are here for you.

2birthdayday · 23/06/2023 11:07

Both your parents should claim attendance allowance

You can claim carers allowance

Get more outside help in

You can get medecine delivered free from your local pharmacy, fill out paper or online form. Reorder via phone or online

hohum12345 · 23/06/2023 11:08

You have my sympathy. I am very similar to you in age/DC etc.
I went through this with my DM whilst trying to work, look after my own family at the same time.
"Thankfully" she was on her own so at least I didn't have the added pressure of battling someone else but it also made it exhausting.

I really didn't want her to go into care, organising carers and me visiting daily. However it rapidly became clear she needed watching 24/7 and I was on my knees.
Eventually she went to a care home for temporary respite and didn't leave. As much as the "ideal" is for someone to stay in their own home, supported by excellent care, the reality is the system in this country is so broken, very few realistic options are actually available. I soon realised that a care home was for the best.
Add in the nightmare of caring for someone Alzheimer's, it can break the most resilient of family members.

Sometimes hard decisions have to be made and as her attorney you need to do what is in your DM's best interests

billy1966 · 23/06/2023 11:09

Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 10:55

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName originally I had it all set up for pharmacy delivery but dad made such a fuss saying it was inconvenient if they were out shopping etc and they were delivered to next door etc so I had to change it to collection from our local pharmacy!

This is madness.

Stop listening to this bully of a man.

Organise your mother to go to a home and leave him to his meanness.

waterrat · 23/06/2023 11:11

Looking at it as compassionately as possible - your dad is struggling, miserable and wants you to be there because you are family and he probably will feel less guilty about not doing the care himself if you do it.

this is not a reason for you to keep doing it!

You need to live your life and be healthy well and happy - the more care you put in place the more you can also support your dad.

IT must be incredibly lonely and stressful for him - tell him straight that the caring will be done by professionals and you will start to focus on ensuring he gets breaks from your mum too - does he see friends/ do anything fun?

3luckystars · 23/06/2023 11:11

I have been through this.
I had to be extremely firm and just not do it, and completely walked away for a while.
I absolutely had to do this.

I spoke to a counsellor about it and she said ‘you are their daughter, not their spouse’ and it totally flicked a switch in my head.
I have my own family to look after and I’m not getting trampled into the ground by stubborn elderly parents. No regrets.

All the best.

2birthdayday · 23/06/2023 11:15

Apologies I see that you have tried free pharmacy delivery

Perhaps try again ?

billy1966 · 23/06/2023 11:17

3luckystars · 23/06/2023 11:11

I have been through this.
I had to be extremely firm and just not do it, and completely walked away for a while.
I absolutely had to do this.

I spoke to a counsellor about it and she said ‘you are their daughter, not their spouse’ and it totally flicked a switch in my head.
I have my own family to look after and I’m not getting trampled into the ground by stubborn elderly parents. No regrets.

All the best.

Excellent post.

I really hope the OP will read and re read.

Mrsjayy · 23/06/2023 11:21

Partiallyclosed · 23/06/2023 10:55

TheSeaDoesntKnowMyName originally I had it all set up for pharmacy delivery but dad made such a fuss saying it was inconvenient if they were out shopping etc and they were delivered to next door etc so I had to change it to collection from our local pharmacy!

He sounds such a cantankerous difficult man it is infuriating my SD is exactly the same My sister his dd just had to set up his prescription and it gets delivered at a certain time every week because he was saying the same ! .I really feel for you. Its exhausting..

Dixiechickonhols · 23/06/2023 11:24

You sound so ground down Op. You are actually being a better daughter if you insist on carers. Muddling along isn’t doing anyone any good.
I’d arrange things as suit you eg pharmacy delivery.

Frozensun · 23/06/2023 11:25

billy1966 · 23/06/2023 11:17

Excellent post.

I really hope the OP will read and re read.

OP this! Another who has been where you are. Unfortunately one of my siblings doesn’t talk to me to this day - but the choice was between my mothers expectation that I was the daughter to do all the running around or my marriage. There was no choice to be made - I’m still married!

TonTonMacoute · 23/06/2023 11:25

You have to point out to your DF that something might happen to you! You might break and ankle, become ill with flu. God knows, you might even want to go on holiday! What would he do then?

Its a hell of a battle, but you need to hammer it home that he simply can't just sit back and rely on you, they need proper carers and they will have to pay.

Go to the Elderly Parents forum OP, there's lots of great practical advice there.

billy1966 · 23/06/2023 11:30

The mistake is to get into any real discussion about it.

At a certain point it becomes circular, and self defeating.

TELLING them what is happening, a complete non negotiable, is the way to go.

If they refuse to accept it, you tell them fine you will step back until they accept that this is the best way forward, or they are welcome to make their own arrangements.

That sounds harsh, but the truth is children are not obligated to step up.

When you have work, a family, obligations yourself to fulfil, you can only do so much.

Running yourself into the ground serves zero purpose for anyone.

So in my experience the most assertive children, that insisted on outside help and support, had the best outcomes for everyone involved.

MuggleMe · 23/06/2023 11:31

Easier said than done but you need to sit your dad down and be direct about the various things you do now, the things that are slipping (washing and clothes etc) and the things you're not willing to do going forward. Make it clear that he can't rely on you or your sister and this is why he's been saving all his life. He knows he needs help, he just wants it to be you not a paid carer, well that's not happening.

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