To think it’s ironic all the stops are being pulled to rescue 5 people from a submarine

[MrsMillhouse]

Yet…. The world allows a boat with hundreds including children to sink

It's the thin end of the wedge once you start saying that only some choices are worthy of rescue, when things go pear shaped.

I don't think the OP said that (haven't read the whole thread). I think the point she was making was not that it was wrong to attempt a rescue of the rich, white people, but that the indifference shown to the people in the migrant boat that sank off Greece was callous in the extreme. The people on the boat begged for help and the coastguards ignored them. That is utterly shameful.

You have no idea what the colour or circumstances of posters is. Why post when you have nothing useful to say?

💯 agree it’s like the largest maritime disaster in Greece in recent years is irrelevant. I wish the same attention had been given to their rescue

The ‘liberal’ lefties ironically spouting their rather nasty and intolerant views.

If an opportunity to bash well off and people arises - it will be taken!

Do you you all lives equally out of interest? How does that manifest in your everyone day life?

I don't think the two scenarios are comparable at all

Just because they were rich why is that more distasteful?

We all know many migrants making that journey also made a choice and are not fleeing war, persecution etc, they are economic migrants

Both groups chose to make a dangerous journey knowing the risks

Quite. Hopefully all the posters impressed with the rich white guys might read this post and have a bit of a think.

But only one gets the full might of a country's ocean rescue team.

Sorry, I'll try that again.

Do you value all lives equally? And what does that look like? Ie what do you actually do to make it more than a meaningless phrase?

Could you explain the laws the people in boats are breaking and at what point in there journey they are breaking those laws?

I think OP has a point. The plight of the people in the submersible is getting more attention because it is such an unusual situation, because the media can ghoulishly use the drama of the clock ticking on the oxygen supplies and because of the Titanic connection. Migrants drowning is not such a compelling story for the media, especially because some people see migrants as less than human.

Their journey.

Is it worse to be rich or to be white I wonder

Those complaining about the use of public money, most of the government agencies involved will be funded from defence or other security budgets. This isn’t cash that would otherwise go into the US health system (ha!) or schools or such like.

Maybe reimburse the French for their research vessel but they’re actively searching for a French national so where is that line drawn 🤷🏼‍♀️

Idk it feels like mn runs on posts like this

It's not the sort of vehicle that would carry a hammer.

Agreed it's the worst thread I've seen in here in ages. Truly horrible as are some of the I don't care if they die just pay up but I will never volunteer or do anything to help myself responses.

I think they will end up paying the costs, what with the rescue being based out of America.

There's another thread on refugee policy which is better.

also not all of us here are white.

We've rescued, towed in boats where there were no lifejackets on board, no radio. RNLI volunteers go out in the very worst weather. They don't pick and choose.

We live in Snowdonia friend is volunteer mountain rescue as is his dog. Almost weekly folks get into serious trouble some are suitably dressed, equipped, others aren't. These volunteers don't differentiate every life is valuable.

There were several individuals who expressed their concerns about the Titan and its safety. One, a former employee, was fired after he balked at the serious design flaws and the company’s refusal to change them

Yes, I read that too. The company has serious questions to answer. If it transpires profit was put before safety, at least the families have the means to take legal action.

What a tasteless thread.

Hundreds of people per day, knowingly taking a huge risk, vs 5 people. Nothing to do with ethnicity and wealth, we do our best to save people in all situations and its disgusting you are turning this into an us v them situation. Have some bloody shame.

Rescues at sea are not billed back to those being rescued. Rescues at sea are governed by the Law of the Sea which requires every vessel in the area to render assistance, for free. This is why cruise liners sometimes divert to help a stricken fishing vessel. National Coastguards (and the RNLI in the case of the UK and Ireland) are bound by the same rules to help. It's a very important law which mariners take extremely seriously.

This situation is quite different from one where a volunteer would be helpful.

Yeah this.

And usually men.