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To think it’s ironic all the stops are being pulled to rescue 5 people from a submarine

474 replies

MrsMillhouse · 20/06/2023 22:52

Yet…. The world allows a boat with hundreds including children to sink

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justasking111 · 21/06/2023 08:41

Youknowaboutthepaint · 21/06/2023 08:36

I think they will end up paying the costs, what with the rescue being based out of America.

The Americans are the best equipped. They've a track record going back decades of retrieval of military equipment.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:41

BCCoach · 21/06/2023 08:40

Rescues at sea are not billed back to those being rescued. Rescues at sea are governed by the Law of the Sea which requires every vessel in the area to render assistance, for free. This is why cruise liners sometimes divert to help a stricken fishing vessel. National Coastguards (and the RNLI in the case of the UK and Ireland) are bound by the same rules to help. It's a very important law which mariners take extremely seriously.

Omg. There's no insurance!! Who would have insured them?!

Dulra · 21/06/2023 08:41

eyuphun · 21/06/2023 08:27

The ‘liberal’ lefties ironically spouting their rather nasty and intolerant views.

If an opportunity to bash well off and people arises - it will be taken!

No issue with souls being rescued, my issue is the amount of publicity it is getting in comparison to the ship that sank off the coast in Greece. Whatever your views are about people risking their lives daily to get to European countries to me is irrelevant, the fact that the Mediterranean to quote a coastguard I heard on the radio "is fast becoming a massive graveyard" is an absolute disgrace. I can never fathom how people can have such disregard for human life or believe these people deserve what happened to them because of actions they were taking. None of us are better than anyone else but the way all of this is portrayed in the media does suggest that some lives matter more than others and I find that view disgusting and indefensible.

Screwballs · 21/06/2023 08:41

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:29

But only one gets the full might of a country's ocean rescue team.

Im sorry, but how could the many boats, every single day, get the full might without something bloody slipping. Listen to yourself.

anouskita · 21/06/2023 08:42

This thread is disgusting. OP you should be ashamed.

jusdepamplemousse · 21/06/2023 08:42

No one is saying don’t rescue the people in the sub. Or if they are, shame on them.

People are saying the world is transfixed on this while very very little interest (comparatively) is shown in the plight of migrants facing peril at sea day on day on day. The migrant sea deaths crisis is not limited to one ship off the coast of Greece. These disasters are happening constantly. They are happening because rich countries fail to offer safe legal passage to people in desperate situations.

But yes - certainly not novel. Happening all the goddamn time.

I hope those in the sub are found and rescued. I don’t value judge what they are doing.

I hope various governments start to do more for migrants facing death at sea. And people vote for governments who will do this.

I hope the juxtaposition of the two events people are talking about provides food for thought and a chance for people to consider expanding and extending their empathy.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:42

Screwballs · 21/06/2023 08:41

Im sorry, but how could the many boats, every single day, get the full might without something bloody slipping. Listen to yourself.

Oh, OK so this is about the fact there was only one of them?

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 21/06/2023 08:43

Really disgusted that after reporting, @MNHQ are allowing this thread to run.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:43

anouskita · 21/06/2023 08:42

This thread is disgusting. OP you should be ashamed.

Of course it isn't disgusting. It's a perfectly valid juxtaposition.

BlinkeredBay · 21/06/2023 08:45

kirinm · 21/06/2023 08:20

Something very similar is in the New York Times. This isn't a particularly unusual take and doesn't warrant being removed.

To pretend there are no differences in how some people are treated is staggeringly naive or deliberately ignorant.

Suggesting that both are treated badly is staggeringly cruel.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:45

No one on this thread doesn't want the sub guys to be rescued. They are pointing out the huge discrepancy in news coverage between this accident and the one in Greece and the many hundreds of people who have died trying to make a better life for themselves.

PixelatedLunchbox · 21/06/2023 08:46

MrsMillhouse · 20/06/2023 23:11

Ideally there should have been rescue provided in both scenarios.

but, the amount of resources put into saving 5 people while the world just looks away when it’s hundreds of poor souls… it’s horrible

Oh please. The world didn't "look away" and the media about it has been non-stop.

Smoking, drinking, eating at McDonalds, fish & chips, all stuff many humans do on a smaller scale regularly which cause heart disease, and yet, the system pays their bypass surgery bills. Or should it only be the marathon running vegans that merit health care? The "stick it to the rich" rhetoric is sour grapes.

PixelatedLunchbox · 21/06/2023 08:47

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 21/06/2023 08:43

Really disgusted that after reporting, @MNHQ are allowing this thread to run.

Freedom of speech is a problem is it?

DisquietintheRanks · 21/06/2023 08:47

@Dulra well come to that, why so much attention on all those drowning in the Med and not for those leading lives of quiet desperation and early death in their country of origin? Why should the proximity of your death to the continent of Europe make a difference? And why does the manner of death matter so much? Why report about the recent train crash in India but not the thousands who due there of cholera there each year?

whumpthereitis · 21/06/2023 08:47

There are always factors that are considered when it comes to the level of attention a story gets. Why is any one case more high profile than another?

A boat containing migrants sinking isn’t, in bloodless terms, unusual. A submersible named titan going missing at the site of probably the most infamous maritime disaster? A vessel containing extremely wealthy individuals, one of whom is established as a record breaking adventurer? All eyes are on that one.

Booklover40 · 21/06/2023 08:48

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 20/06/2023 23:06

Yes. Wealthy white lives. Lives from the global north. Fucking depressing.

Bloody hell. So we’re not supposed to attempt to rescue wealthy white people? I hope I never get into a situation where I need to be rescued as I think I’d be in that category - thank god you’re not in charge!

Nothing on earth would persuade me to get in that sub - my worst nightmare - but obviously the rescue teams can’t just say “oh, they’re rich and white - sod ‘em!”

FoodCentre · 21/06/2023 08:48

All the wealthy and privileged mumsetters with resources people elsewhere could only dream of- who think they're better than billionaires. That's the only irony on this thread, op.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:49

whumpthereitis · 21/06/2023 08:47

There are always factors that are considered when it comes to the level of attention a story gets. Why is any one case more high profile than another?

A boat containing migrants sinking isn’t, in bloodless terms, unusual. A submersible named titan going missing at the site of probably the most infamous maritime disaster? A vessel containing extremely wealthy individuals, one of whom is established as a record breaking adventurer? All eyes are on that one.

Yes. I don't agree that's right, or moral.

whumpthereitis · 21/06/2023 08:51

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:49

Yes. I don't agree that's right, or moral.

Perhaps not, but the lack of consistency is observably very human nonetheless.

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 21/06/2023 08:53

Kitchen12345 · 21/06/2023 01:38

Its not a race to the bottom. Which is ironic. Because I suppose it is

@MNHQ I reported this comment for an attempt at sick wit, but you said you would not delete it - why? It's not okay to joke about people potentially dying.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:53

whumpthereitis · 21/06/2023 08:51

Perhaps not, but the lack of consistency is observably very human nonetheless.

Some humans, maybe.

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:53

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 21/06/2023 08:53

@MNHQ I reported this comment for an attempt at sick wit, but you said you would not delete it - why? It's not okay to joke about people potentially dying.

Oh fgs!

YESSTEVE · 21/06/2023 08:54

RosettaTheGardenFairy · 21/06/2023 08:53

@MNHQ I reported this comment for an attempt at sick wit, but you said you would not delete it - why? It's not okay to joke about people potentially dying.

Agree @mnhq, that joke is in really poor taste

whumpthereitis · 21/06/2023 08:55

Tremel · 21/06/2023 08:53

Some humans, maybe.

And a lot of them. Media is shaped by the consumer and much as the consumer is shaped by media, and the media will go with the story that generates the greater level of interest.

anouskita · 21/06/2023 08:57

@MNHQ - this thread is extremely poor taste, taking place WHILE people are potentially lost at sea with hours of oxygen remaining. Disgraceful.