To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off

[Dogsitterwoes]

AIBU. No, let them lecture you
YANBU - Yes, be rude to them

I'm in my 50s and was a long term smoker. I switched to vaping in January. I am considerate and only vape outdoors and move away from other people or into a smoking area. People sometimes
comment, there's a brief convo around my giving up smoking, and 9 out of 10 respond nicely in a 'well done you' kind of way.

The 1 out of 10 though start lecturing me on the evils of vaping. These can be complete strangers, or acquaintances. They go on and on.
Usual themes:

1. Just as bad for you or worse for you than smoking.
2. Children are vaping.
3. Environmental impact of disposables.

I respond politely. I acknowledge there is a concern around all of this, and
1 - I know they aren't exactly good for me but I think they are not as bad as cigarettes, and it's my intension to also stop vaping this year
2 - I agree the manufacturer's should stop targeting non-smokers with the sweet flavours
3 - I agree, I use a rechargeable, but there's probably a lot more all of us could be doing for the environment.

But they do not let it drop. I've literally been lectured at on and on.

YANBU to stop being polite after my initial response and tell them that if I stopped vaping today, I'd be back on the fags tomorrow so mind their own fucking business?

Absolutely no reasoning with it. Quite shocking how selfish some people can be.

@TheoTheopolis23 I completely agree - how childish?

I'm sure you will. I'm pleased you think you have an intelligent thought in your head.
I am ashamed of nothing and will continue to live my life happily, thankful that I do not know anyone in real life like you or busyday 😊

Yeah exactly this - I really can’t be arsed trying to articulate or get my point across and I am certainly not going to be bullied into jumping off the thread or even worse changing my views

Both cause harm to other people

This is exactly why I haven’t wasted my time providing any ‘evidence’!

Seems perfectly capable (and accurate) to me!

@TheoTheopolis23 don't then. Have a shit one 😉❤️ tit

I have a beautiful family, full life, gorgeous pets....nothing to complain about at all.
Even my washing smells nice😂

I’m sure you do - and do your kids vape too? Enjoy your washing, I would debate that it smells fresh though

Good lord is she still going? Honestly, it's just pigeon chess at this point.

Yes and some people like @TidyHomeTidyMind are just intent on capturing the Queen…🙄

Completely this!

Queen of the nutters maybe😂

Oh how lovely you are! 🙄🤣

Anyone watch GMTV this morning. Young lad was close to death due to........vaping.

Sorry good morning britain

I didn’t see it - did they give details? How much was he vaping? Was he ‘vape spiked’?

People have been saying all through this thread that vaping should not be so easily accessible for children.

To sum my views up:

1. huge clouds produced by sub-ohm devices are anti-social and probably shouldn’t be done in crowds
2. Vaping should not be accessible to children and I wouldnt think it’s a great choice for people who have never smoked before
3. As a smoking cessation tool, it is highly effective, will prevent many more deaths than it might cause (the stats on vaping deaths are interesting- only 4 suspected cases - much lower than smoking related deaths)
4. it is counter productive to ‘shame’ people who use vaping to quit smoking and to tell them they are disgusting etc. Switching from smoking to vaping is a positive health move and should be encouraged.

Smoking and vaping are different things. I could only stop smoking by vaping, nothing else worked for me. But it's problematic that children are vaping.

Our local school has cracked down hard on it, and any child caught with a vape gets an automatic suspension. More schools should follow through with this.

I occasionally vape and if anybody lectures me on it they better not be fat, physically unfit, eating a less than perfect diet, getting inadequate sleep, drinking too much, etc, because then they're a fucking hypocrit.

Public Health England did a meta review of the available data/studies and concluded that vaping was probs only 5% as harmful as smoking (i.e. smoking is 20x worse).

The ones that really irk me are the idiots that go on about 'popcorn lung'. Some guys got this from working in a popcorn factory and the chemical diacetyl (previously found in some vape juices) was thought to be responsible.

However, most ejuices no longer contain diacetyl and no smoker has ever been, diagnosed with it despite cigs containing around 700x more diacetyl than vape juice.

Showing yourself up for what you are ... Again.

They'd be better banning actual sweets than sweet flavoured ejuices given how many fat people there are nowadays.

@TheoTheopolis23 haha. Your holier than thou, self importance is showing again. I'm embarrassed for you. You're pure lack of intellect is shameful. Your go to is name calling and climbing upon that high horse you're currently sitting on... let's hope you don't fall off. It'll hurt.

And FYI I'm AMAZING and will continue to show myself for what I am. If you can't handle that I suggest reading a book on self love rather than sitting on here calling people names because they don't agree with you.

Your mother should've taught you that not everything goes your way in life and not everything is about you. It would've given you a better start and you wouldn't be so touchy now.

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