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To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off

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Dogsitterwoes · 17/06/2023 13:52

AIBU. No, let them lecture you
YANBU - Yes, be rude to them

I'm in my 50s and was a long term smoker. I switched to vaping in January. I am considerate and only vape outdoors and move away from other people or into a smoking area. People sometimes
comment, there's a brief convo around my giving up smoking, and 9 out of 10 respond nicely in a 'well done you' kind of way.

The 1 out of 10 though start lecturing me on the evils of vaping. These can be complete strangers, or acquaintances. They go on and on.
Usual themes:

  1. Just as bad for you or worse for you than smoking.
  2. Children are vaping.
  3. Environmental impact of disposables.

I respond politely. I acknowledge there is a concern around all of this, and
1 - I know they aren't exactly good for me but I think they are not as bad as cigarettes, and it's my intension to also stop vaping this year
2 - I agree the manufacturer's should stop targeting non-smokers with the sweet flavours
3 - I agree, I use a rechargeable, but there's probably a lot more all of us could be doing for the environment.

But they do not let it drop. I've literally been lectured at on and on.

YANBU to stop being polite after my initial response and tell them that if I stopped vaping today, I'd be back on the fags tomorrow so mind their own fucking business?

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Wereisit · 21/06/2023 10:18

If I'm enveloped in clouds of sickly smoke when out and about I'm allowed to say I don't like it. it also looks pathetic like a baby with a dummy

OneTC · 21/06/2023 10:23

But your scored through comment is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. You don't just dislike the smell, say if it was a candy floss stall you wouldn't see the performative coughs or clapping your hands over your mouth and flailing about that vapers sometimes encounter. It's the whole package that revolts you and that's fine too

Wereisit · 21/06/2023 10:42

Yes if I liked it in any way I'd do it myself. Obviously it revolts me, which is why I don't do it.

TidyHomeTidyMind · 21/06/2023 11:53

Hahaha okay, I must remember to put (cheap) perfume on my list so as not to upset @Mybusyday .
I hope you wear very expensive perfume!
Probably not, it might make you sneeze.

humblemeep · 21/06/2023 11:59

bonfirebash · 21/06/2023 09:47

So now everyone who vapes wears cheap perfume and stinks Confused

Yeah I love my cheap perfume, pity it costs me over £100 a bottle 🧐 My partner has a sensitive sense of smell and doesn't vape or smoke, he can't smell my vape even when sat next to me 🤷‍♀️ but sure, you all know better!

TidyHomeTidyMind · 21/06/2023 12:18

@humblemeep busyday would sniff you out, she's the human equivalent of a blood hound😂

humblemeep · 21/06/2023 12:30

TidyHomeTidyMind · 21/06/2023 12:18

@humblemeep busyday would sniff you out, she's the human equivalent of a blood hound😂

😂

PinkButtercups · 21/06/2023 16:46

@Tessasanderson Do you usually go around sniffing your colleagues? Do you work at the airport?

You cannot smell the vape on people. You can't. It doesn't stick to clothes the same cigarette smoke does. Stop 🤣.

Verv · 21/06/2023 17:26

Honestly, just tell them to fuck off.
If you're off the cigarettes, great.
Vaping is significantly less damaging than smoking to the point that the NHS has covered it, so for the squawkers about "just as deadlyyyyyy"

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/quit-smoking/using-e-cigarettes-to-stop-smoking/

nhs.uk

Using e-cigarettes to stop smoking

Find out about electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes), including how they work and how vaping may help you quit smoking.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/quit-smoking/using-e-cigarettes-to-stop-smoking/

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 17:59

OneTC · 21/06/2023 10:23

But your scored through comment is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. You don't just dislike the smell, say if it was a candy floss stall you wouldn't see the performative coughs or clapping your hands over your mouth and flailing about that vapers sometimes encounter. It's the whole package that revolts you and that's fine too

I agree with this. The anti-vapers on this thread are mostly very performative - it actually reminds me of high school bullying tactics… trying to taunt people, tell them they are disgusting and vile and they stink and they probably wear cheap perfume etc etc
Absolutely zero logic behind their argument, no thought gone in to it at all. And as people on here quite often say, you can’t argue with stupid.

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 17:59

PinkButtercups · 21/06/2023 16:46

@Tessasanderson Do you usually go around sniffing your colleagues? Do you work at the airport?

You cannot smell the vape on people. You can't. It doesn't stick to clothes the same cigarette smoke does. Stop 🤣.

This, all day long and twice on Sundays.

I don’t vape and I absolutely cannot tell if other people are vapers simply by sniffing them.

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 18:01

Verv · 21/06/2023 17:26

Honestly, just tell them to fuck off.
If you're off the cigarettes, great.
Vaping is significantly less damaging than smoking to the point that the NHS has covered it, so for the squawkers about "just as deadlyyyyyy"

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/quit-smoking/using-e-cigarettes-to-stop-smoking/

I agree but unfortunately, posting facts on this thread makes no difference to the performative “vaping is vile and it’s killllling meeeee” crowd.

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:06

Wereisit · 21/06/2023 10:18

If I'm enveloped in clouds of sickly smoke when out and about I'm allowed to say I don't like it. it also looks pathetic like a baby with a dummy

@Wereisit yes of course you are! As we are all allowed an opinion on the matter without people turning nasty - bloody awful stuff!

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 18:11

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:06

@Wereisit yes of course you are! As we are all allowed an opinion on the matter without people turning nasty - bloody awful stuff!

You DO realise though that you’re the one who comes across as nasty on this thread? Do you really think it’s ok to walk up to a total stranger and tell them you find them disgusting, vile and smelly? And then get offended if they don’t like it??
Seriously, what planet are you on??

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:11

TidyHomeTidyMind · 21/06/2023 11:53

Hahaha okay, I must remember to put (cheap) perfume on my list so as not to upset @Mybusyday .
I hope you wear very expensive perfume!
Probably not, it might make you sneeze.

Don’t worry you won’t upset me 👍Perfume doesn’t make me sneeze - I have asthma not allergies. Vape affects my respiratory system not perfume. I can afford expensive perfume as I don’t waste my money on crap that is slowly killing me….

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:13

humblemeep · 21/06/2023 11:59

Yeah I love my cheap perfume, pity it costs me over £100 a bottle 🧐 My partner has a sensitive sense of smell and doesn't vape or smoke, he can't smell my vape even when sat next to me 🤷‍♀️ but sure, you all know better!

Ask him to tell you truthfully, you might get a different answer…

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:14

PinkButtercups · 21/06/2023 16:46

@Tessasanderson Do you usually go around sniffing your colleagues? Do you work at the airport?

You cannot smell the vape on people. You can't. It doesn't stick to clothes the same cigarette smoke does. Stop 🤣.

Of course you can smell it on people - it reeks!

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:16

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 17:59

I agree with this. The anti-vapers on this thread are mostly very performative - it actually reminds me of high school bullying tactics… trying to taunt people, tell them they are disgusting and vile and they stink and they probably wear cheap perfume etc etc
Absolutely zero logic behind their argument, no thought gone in to it at all. And as people on here quite often say, you can’t argue with stupid.

No and you can’t argue with the truth

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 18:18

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 18:11

You DO realise though that you’re the one who comes across as nasty on this thread? Do you really think it’s ok to walk up to a total stranger and tell them you find them disgusting, vile and smelly? And then get offended if they don’t like it??
Seriously, what planet are you on??

Unfortunately a planet filled with puffs and clouds of disgusting vape

PencilsInSpace · 21/06/2023 18:23

Gosh you do seem worked up about this @Mybusyday

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 18:54

PencilsInSpace · 21/06/2023 18:23

Gosh you do seem worked up about this @Mybusyday

They certainly do, don’t they. It is most odd Confused

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 19:43

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 18:54

They certainly do, don’t they. It is most odd Confused

@Tryagainplease what is so odd about not wanting to breathe in other peoples disgusting vape or to not want the stench on my washing or in my home - what is odd is why you would want to put that vile stuff anywhere near your mouth - ughhhhh! 🤢

PencilsInSpace · 21/06/2023 20:58

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 19:43

@Tryagainplease what is so odd about not wanting to breathe in other peoples disgusting vape or to not want the stench on my washing or in my home - what is odd is why you would want to put that vile stuff anywhere near your mouth - ughhhhh! 🤢

vape GIF

We all got from your first couple of posts that you think vaping is disgusting and you are not to be swayed from your opinion.

But that was 4 days ago and you've done nothing but repeat yourself since. You have more posts on this thread than anyone else, probably by a wide margin. You seem to just want to fill the thread up with words like disgusting and vile and stench and many, many, many exclamation marks!!!

I can practically visualise the steam coming out of your nostrils.

I think that is odd behaviour. Is it a game or are you genuinely engaged in this protracted, futile ragefest you appear to be having?

The title of this thread is not 'AIBU about not wanting to breathe in other peoples disgusting vape or to not want the stench on my washing or in my home?'

The thread is titled 'AIBU To tell those who lecture me on vaping to Fuck Off'

OP is not at all unreasonable and I imagine the only reason she has not done so in this instance is because it's against the talk guidelines.

Tryagainplease · 21/06/2023 21:16
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JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 21/06/2023 21:40

Mybusyday · 21/06/2023 09:24

@Tessasanderson - absolutely this! And you are so, so right - they know it makes them stink so try to cover it up with cheap perfume!

Bullshit…..I don’t wear cheap perfume thanks very much!

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