Is business class worth it with two toddlers ?

[muaa]

Would it make the journey better ? My DH absolutely refuses do go long haul with our 1 and 3 year olds.

Would flying business actually make it any easier ? The one year old would still be on one of our laps. The three year old would their own seat etc.

Has anyone done this ? It's so much more expensive and I don't want to do it, unless it will make a considerable difference.

I'm still alive. Have been flying since I'm a baby and haven't needed therapy. You might want to look into it though.

Also, flying long haul isn't only for people who want a holiday. But it really doesn't matter why tf people choose to fly. Stay mad about it.

muaa · Today 19:25
So basically, once you have kids, you are to stay home and never to enjoy nice things again. You are allowed to go to places where other kids are ( child friendly places ) but not to any other place.

Fancy restaurant ? No. Lovely hotel ? No. Business class flight ? No.

This is BS. You take your kid and get them to behave or you leave. Obviously you can't do that on a plane. However, I will try and book night flights anyway.

Or you could stick to Hoseasons for the foreseeable?!? But seriously, the majority of parents manage to keep their children quiet on a plane, it’s just the annoying minority that spoil it.

You're taking the piss...

Psychological harm for going on a long haul flight?

We flew business class from uk to Canada from when DT’s we’re about six months old

I doubt many of them think they are. It’s usually just people like some of the numpties on this thread who think that way.

Totally agree, I’d rather have a crying baby next to me on a flight than some drunken twat acting like an arse, how many of these people ruin flights for passengers and don’t give a shit.

lafado
I can only assume you’re on a wind up, because I have never read such a load of nonsense as your posts

Would love to see some legitimate studies on this.

My parents took me traveling all over since I was a baby and I didn't suffer any psychological damage. If anything i always loved traveling and plan to do the same with my own children.

You are talking nonsense.

I have never been bothered by children on planes. I fly a lot. I used to fly a very popular holiday route for business several times a year. The plane was packed with kids and babies. They never bothered me at all. Sometimes babies would cry, but the parents were always good at walking around with them etc ( which is what I do on flights ). I would also just put my headphones in and with the noise of the plane, I wouldn't hear much anyway.

The people that were annoying were drunk people on the plane and once I sat in front of a woman who had a really bad cough. That was annoying, but she couldn't help it. It happens. She coughed on me for the whole flight.

The most annoying people in business are men who snore like trains. There is always at least one.And drunks. If there are little kids/ babies I’m just happy I don’t have to deal with kids that age anymore. They are rarely a problem- maybe a little bit of crying but I’ve never had a BC flight ruined by little kids. We flew business a lot when kids were little as they could lie down and sleep- we booked night flights . Now they’re old enough to just deal with sleeping upright we’re back of the bus anything under 8 hours and anything over is price dependent. There is no way I would fly long haul in economy with a baby on my lap. Would rather not go.

@Robbiethedog this is the configuration we fly. LO flies in the 1 seat, hubby in front of him and I fly on the aisle seat that sort of is between their 2 seats if that makes sense. It’s never been in issue. He is content in his own seat and knows once the seat belt sign is off he can come sit with one of us or stay put.

We flew business class with DD long haul when we moved and it was worth it - bigger luggage allowance meant the cost difference wasn’t that significant. Flight attendants were more available to help and did things like staggered our meals so we could both eat. Toilets are bigger so changing nappies was easier. Priority everything through check in/security etc. access to lounges.

I wouldn’t break the bank to do it, but worth it for us. Last time we flew long haul we just did premium economy and that was fine, but only one DC (3) and she is very well behaved (sat in her seat and watched paw patrol for like 6 hours). We don’t do screen time at all at home though so the novelty on the plane was significant. We also got a Stokke bedbox, which was really helpful for getting her comfy for sleeping.

Sadly due to the nature of my job, I do find myself dealing with children who have suffered genuine psychological harm at the hands of their parents. Comparing a child crying on a flight to actual abuse is quite frankly offensive. By all means say you don’t want your journey disturbing, especially if you’ve paid more for it - I’m sure a lot would agree with you. But I’m pretty certain a child crying on a flight doesn’t come close to genuine harm. DS screamed his head off for 6 months straight in the car or pram. A lot of the times I took him out because I wanted to go out, not because it was critical I did. Should I have stayed at home for 6 months straight in case he cried?

Really? Not in my experience!

i am in my fifties and have only ever been able to afford economy. I don’t mind it too much. Please take all the kids to business class and give me a peaceful flight ;-)

Who do you fly business with?
There is typically a hard divider at each side and then galley and /or and toilets before business seats.

You cant hear economy in business on any airline I fly with.

@VivaVivaa do you know how difficult it is for a baby to understand the strange environment and the pain of the pressure changes. I'm sorry you have gone into a career supporting those with trauma and yet you dismiss trauma, I feel for those you are supposed to be supporting. Dismissing crying and separating it from pain, this is so worrying, can you declare your employer and registration number please.

It is absolutely worth it. You will have extra space, access to better facilities at the airports and generally a better experience. Your small people are very lucky to have parents who are raising them this way.
Im very much in awe of you. ( and that really isn’t sarcastic, I genuinely mean it)

I can remember when Gulf Air had Sky Nannies on board - they’d also come into BC and do crafts with any children on board.

Oh dear. Still here are you ?

Go premium economy. Wider seats, more leg room. Seats in pairs rather than threes. We've just flown to Mexico with a 1 year old and he had a bassinet in front of us but could also sit with us when he wanted to. Doing the same to fly to nyc in a few months.

Oooh yes, I'd really like to know too please.

Oooh, yes, I had a horrendous cough once on a flight. Got zero sleep on a 9 hour night flight. I was in business class, the horror! At least I only pissed off the two people within six feet of me rather than the ten or more who would have been within six feet in economy!

Id take them in business if you can. They’re less likely to cry because you won’t be restricting them in the same way.

I’d rather have an upset child next to me in business than the typical drunken pompous businessman trying it on with the staff.

And wtf is this about causing psychological damage by taking kids on long haul flights? What utter bullshit.

Are they more important than people in economy?

@muaa how wonderful that you consider causing harm to your children so funny. You must be very proud of yourself.